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From John Nolte......did Wonder Woman kill a man so that she could get Steve Trevor back? An innocent man?
I know people can debate about whether or not a comic book hero can kill criminals to stop them....but apparently the man she essentially kills to get Steve back is an innocent man, who has done nothing wrong......
Bad story telling?
Wonder Woman aka Diana Prince (Gal Gadot) makes a wish to have Steve Trevor (Chris Pine) back. Even though she hardly knew the guy and heās been dead for 66 years, she still canāt get over him. So she wishes to get him back and get him back she does, but ā¦ in another manās body.
And not just any manās body.
Trevorās spirit and soul jump into an actual guy ā I mean an actual living guy with an apartment and clothes; a guy with a job and some sort of emotional life. At first, we see the guy. Then, because they wanted to bring Chris Pine back, we see only Steve Trevor. Butā¦
Thereās no question Steve Trevor is inhabiting another manās body, and thereās no question that Wonder Woman is a sociopath who has no problem with this.
Even while the two of them are standing in the guyās apartment, she has no qualms using this guyās body for sex.
Sheās also prepared to kill the guy.
What I mean is that in order for Trevor to return in this guyās body, this guyās soul and spirit disappear. His soul and his spirit are snuffed out, and Wonder Woman doesnāt care. She never even questions the price an innocent man has to pay so she can reunite with her sweetheart.
Worse still, she just assumes she and Trevor will be together forever, which is the equivalent of killing the guy.
In the end, she only agrees to return the guyās soul and spirit to his own body after she has no other choice. But had she not been forced to, Wonder Woman wouldāve been fine with killing the guy to get what she wants.
This guy must have parents and friends. What about those people?
What about having sex with this guyās body without his consent?
Can you imagine if Pepper Potts died, returned in a living womanās body, and Iron Man took that woman to bed?
If the screenplay had even a little intelligence, this could have been a fairly interesting idea, a real moral dilemma in keeping with the movieās theme about how wishes come with a curse. Okay, you wanted Steve. Here he is. But an innocent man paid the price. Whachoo gunna do now?
If Wonder Woman was not a sociopath, imagine the emotional torture and dramatic possibilities of that situation. Here they are, finally reunited, but they canāt really be together because 1) it came at the cost of an innocent man, and 2) it would be wrong to use his body as a sex doll.
While I was sitting there watching this, I kept waiting for the Here Comes Mr. Jordan/Heaven Can Wait escape clauseā¦
Yes, Iām in another manās body, but I was put in this body just after he died, and now his soul is in Heaven, and this is my body, so what do you say we grab that magic lasso and go do the nasty?
But the movie doesnāt do that, which means those of us watching are forced to put the fact that Wonder Woman is a sociopath out of our mindsā¦
What about this guyās poor mother? Stop thinking about that and look at the CGI.
The only thing that kind of saves it comes at the end. This guy comes back, Wonder Woman flirts with him, he doesnāt respond, and youāre thinking Oh, he really is too stupid to live.
But then youāre wondering, Whatās he going to tell his boss?
Regardless, he still returns believing he blacked out for a few days, so he probably thinks he has a brain tumor.
This would have been such an easy screenplay fix. Why not have Steve Trevor return in his own body? How hard would it have been to do that? You know, Wonder Woman comes home from work and finds Steve there trying to figure out the TV, or something? Wouldnāt it make more sense wish-wise if he showed up in her apartment?
I know people can debate about whether or not a comic book hero can kill criminals to stop them....but apparently the man she essentially kills to get Steve back is an innocent man, who has done nothing wrong......
Bad story telling?
Wonder Woman aka Diana Prince (Gal Gadot) makes a wish to have Steve Trevor (Chris Pine) back. Even though she hardly knew the guy and heās been dead for 66 years, she still canāt get over him. So she wishes to get him back and get him back she does, but ā¦ in another manās body.
And not just any manās body.
Trevorās spirit and soul jump into an actual guy ā I mean an actual living guy with an apartment and clothes; a guy with a job and some sort of emotional life. At first, we see the guy. Then, because they wanted to bring Chris Pine back, we see only Steve Trevor. Butā¦
Thereās no question Steve Trevor is inhabiting another manās body, and thereās no question that Wonder Woman is a sociopath who has no problem with this.
Even while the two of them are standing in the guyās apartment, she has no qualms using this guyās body for sex.
Sheās also prepared to kill the guy.
What I mean is that in order for Trevor to return in this guyās body, this guyās soul and spirit disappear. His soul and his spirit are snuffed out, and Wonder Woman doesnāt care. She never even questions the price an innocent man has to pay so she can reunite with her sweetheart.
Worse still, she just assumes she and Trevor will be together forever, which is the equivalent of killing the guy.
In the end, she only agrees to return the guyās soul and spirit to his own body after she has no other choice. But had she not been forced to, Wonder Woman wouldāve been fine with killing the guy to get what she wants.
This guy must have parents and friends. What about those people?
What about having sex with this guyās body without his consent?
Can you imagine if Pepper Potts died, returned in a living womanās body, and Iron Man took that woman to bed?
If the screenplay had even a little intelligence, this could have been a fairly interesting idea, a real moral dilemma in keeping with the movieās theme about how wishes come with a curse. Okay, you wanted Steve. Here he is. But an innocent man paid the price. Whachoo gunna do now?
If Wonder Woman was not a sociopath, imagine the emotional torture and dramatic possibilities of that situation. Here they are, finally reunited, but they canāt really be together because 1) it came at the cost of an innocent man, and 2) it would be wrong to use his body as a sex doll.
While I was sitting there watching this, I kept waiting for the Here Comes Mr. Jordan/Heaven Can Wait escape clauseā¦
Yes, Iām in another manās body, but I was put in this body just after he died, and now his soul is in Heaven, and this is my body, so what do you say we grab that magic lasso and go do the nasty?
But the movie doesnāt do that, which means those of us watching are forced to put the fact that Wonder Woman is a sociopath out of our mindsā¦
What about this guyās poor mother? Stop thinking about that and look at the CGI.
The only thing that kind of saves it comes at the end. This guy comes back, Wonder Woman flirts with him, he doesnāt respond, and youāre thinking Oh, he really is too stupid to live.
But then youāre wondering, Whatās he going to tell his boss?
Regardless, he still returns believing he blacked out for a few days, so he probably thinks he has a brain tumor.
This would have been such an easy screenplay fix. Why not have Steve Trevor return in his own body? How hard would it have been to do that? You know, Wonder Woman comes home from work and finds Steve there trying to figure out the TV, or something? Wouldnāt it make more sense wish-wise if he showed up in her apartment?
Nolte: In '1984,' Wonder Woman Has Sex With a Man's Body Without His Consent
Am I wrong that in 'Wonder Woman 1984,' Wonder Woman kinda raped a guy? How else would you describe it?
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