Australia clears World Vision of Israeli claim it aided Hamas

[P F Tinmore]

Israel has made great effort to close down all support for Palestinian be it aid, charity, political, whatever. This usually includes lying.

The Australian government has cleared the international Christian charity World Vision of diverting funds to Hamas.

“The Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT) says an internal review into World Vision funding in Gaza has uncovered nothing to suggest any diversion of government aid funding to Hamas,” the country’s public broadcaster ABC reported on Tuesday.

In June 2016, Israel’s Shin Bet intelligence agency arrested World Vision’s Gaza director Mohammed El Halabi and accused him of diverting tens of millions of dollars to Hamas’ military wing.

World Vision rejected the Israeli allegations, noting that the sums Israel claimed had been diverted far exceeded its entire program budget in Gaza.

The conclusion of the Australian government inquiry deals another blow to Israel’s smear campaign against humanitarian organizations.

Meanwhile, Israel continues to target aid workers.

In January, Wahid al-Bursh an employee of the United Nations Development Program accepted a plea deal and was sentenced to seven months in prison, a relatively light term given the gravity of Israel’s claims that he had “aided Hamas.”

On Tuesday, Israel revealed details of its allegations against Muhammad Murtaja, director of the Gaza office of Turkey’s international aid agency. Israel arrested Murtaja in February, claiming he had diverted funds to Hamas.

Murtaja’s lawyer has denied all of Israel’s allegations and said the accusations fit Israel’s pattern of targeting aid agencies.

Australia clears World Vision of Israeli claim it aided Hamas​

 

[Hollie]

Israel has made great effort to close down all support for Palestinian be it aid, charity, political, whatever. This usually includes lying.

The Australian government has cleared the international Christian charity World Vision of diverting funds to Hamas.

“The Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT) says an internal review into World Vision funding in Gaza has uncovered nothing to suggest any diversion of government aid funding to Hamas,” the country’s public broadcaster ABC reported on Tuesday.

In June 2016, Israel’s Shin Bet intelligence agency arrested World Vision’s Gaza director Mohammed El Halabi and accused him of diverting tens of millions of dollars to Hamas’ military wing.

World Vision rejected the Israeli allegations, noting that the sums Israel claimed had been diverted far exceeded its entire program budget in Gaza.

The conclusion of the Australian government inquiry deals another blow to Israel’s smear campaign against humanitarian organizations.

Meanwhile, Israel continues to target aid workers.

In January, Wahid al-Bursh an employee of the United Nations Development Program accepted a plea deal and was sentenced to seven months in prison, a relatively light term given the gravity of Israel’s claims that he had “aided Hamas.”

On Tuesday, Israel revealed details of its allegations against Muhammad Murtaja, director of the Gaza office of Turkey’s international aid agency. Israel arrested Murtaja in February, claiming he had diverted funds to Hamas.

Murtaja’s lawyer has denied all of Israel’s allegations and said the accusations fit Israel’s pattern of targeting aid agencies.

Australia clears World Vision of Israeli claim it aided Hamas​

Australia is a part of the global conspiracy lead by The Great Satan™.

Say it with me now: "aww, those poor, oppressed Pal'istanians"™

 

[P F Tinmore]

Believing anything Israel says was their first mistake.

 

[Hollie]

Believing anything Israel says was their first mistake.

Maybe you should whine to someone who cares. Maybe the prayer leader at your madrassah?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Believing anything Israel says was their first mistake.

Maybe you should whine to someone who cares. Maybe the prayer leader at your madrassah?

What does that have to do with Israel being a lying sack of shit country?

 

[Hollie]

Believing anything Israel says was their first mistake.

Maybe you should whine to someone who cares. Maybe the prayer leader at your madrassah?

What does that have to do with Israel being a lying sack of shit country?

You appear pompous and irrational when pressing the angry convert thingy.

Hoping for some discussion board credibility from your angry convert peers?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Believing anything Israel says was their first mistake.

Maybe you should whine to someone who cares. Maybe the prayer leader at your madrassah?

What does that have to do with Israel being a lying sack of shit country?

You appear pompous and irrational when pressing the angry convert thingy.

Hoping for some discussion board credibility from your angry convert peers?

I am not at all angry. Just stating facts.

 

[Hollie]

Believing anything Israel says was their first mistake.

Maybe you should whine to someone who cares. Maybe the prayer leader at your madrassah?

What does that have to do with Israel being a lying sack of shit country?

You appear pompous and irrational when pressing the angry convert thingy.

Hoping for some discussion board credibility from your angry convert peers?

I am not at all angry. Just stating facts.

Your "angry convert" whining is void facts.

 

[TNHarley]

Wahid plead guilty...
So the two are doing nothing but exchanges words with no proof? Lol, they didn't "clear" anything. You just sound biased.

 

[montelatici]

Wahid plead guilty...
So the two are doing nothing but exchanges words with no proof? Lol, they didn't "clear" anything. You just sound biased.

"An internal review of the accusations that an employee of the Christian-sponsored civilian aid group World Vision used donor funds to support Hamas in the Gaza Strip has not found any evidence that he diverted Australian government aid, the Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade on said Tuesday.
The examination was undertaken by the Australian Foreign Ministry in August 2016 after Israel indicted Mohammed El Halabi, director of World Vision’s Gaza branch, on allegations of funneling tens of millions of dollars to Hamas’ military wing, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation reported."
read more: Australia: No evidence aid group employee transferred government funds to Hamas

 

[TNHarley]

Wahid plead guilty...
So the two are doing nothing but exchanges words with no proof? Lol, they didn't "clear" anything. You just sound biased.

"An internal review of the accusations that an employee of the Christian-sponsored civilian aid group World Vision used donor funds to support Hamas in the Gaza Strip has not found any evidence that he diverted Australian government aid, the Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade on said Tuesday.
The examination was undertaken by the Australian Foreign Ministry in August 2016 after Israel indicted Mohammed El Halabi, director of World Vision’s Gaza branch, on allegations of funneling tens of millions of dollars to Hamas’ military wing, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation reported."
read more: Australia: No evidence aid group employee transferred government funds to Hamas

IDK . Dude admitted to working for them..

 

[montelatici]

Wahid plead guilty...
So the two are doing nothing but exchanges words with no proof? Lol, they didn't "clear" anything. You just sound biased.

"An internal review of the accusations that an employee of the Christian-sponsored civilian aid group World Vision used donor funds to support Hamas in the Gaza Strip has not found any evidence that he diverted Australian government aid, the Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade on said Tuesday.
The examination was undertaken by the Australian Foreign Ministry in August 2016 after Israel indicted Mohammed El Halabi, director of World Vision’s Gaza branch, on allegations of funneling tens of millions of dollars to Hamas’ military wing, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation reported."
read more: Australia: No evidence aid group employee transferred government funds to Hamas

IDK . Dude admitted to working for them..

You are making things up. Of course, after they through torturing him, this may change.

World Vision employee Mohammad El Halabi pleads not guilty to funding Hamas in Gaza
By Middle East correspondent Sophie McNeill
Updated 2 Feb 2017, 6:23pm

"World Vision employee pleads not guilty to funding Hamas

 

[TNHarley]

Wahid plead guilty...
So the two are doing nothing but exchanges words with no proof? Lol, they didn't "clear" anything. You just sound biased.

"An internal review of the accusations that an employee of the Christian-sponsored civilian aid group World Vision used donor funds to support Hamas in the Gaza Strip has not found any evidence that he diverted Australian government aid, the Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade on said Tuesday.
The examination was undertaken by the Australian Foreign Ministry in August 2016 after Israel indicted Mohammed El Halabi, director of World Vision’s Gaza branch, on allegations of funneling tens of millions of dollars to Hamas’ military wing, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation reported."
read more: Australia: No evidence aid group employee transferred government funds to Hamas

IDK . Dude admitted to working for them..

You are making things up. Of course, after they through torturing him, this may change.

World Vision employee Mohammad El Halabi pleads not guilty to funding Hamas in Gaza
By Middle East correspondent Sophie McNeill
Updated 2 Feb 2017, 6:23pm

"World Vision employee pleads not guilty to funding Hamas

He admitted he worked for them. He admitted his father worked for them. Spin that how you wish. I don't really give a shit. You Israel/Palestine junkies are worse than the liberals and conservatives here.

 

[montelatici]

Wahid plead guilty...
So the two are doing nothing but exchanges words with no proof? Lol, they didn't "clear" anything. You just sound biased.

"An internal review of the accusations that an employee of the Christian-sponsored civilian aid group World Vision used donor funds to support Hamas in the Gaza Strip has not found any evidence that he diverted Australian government aid, the Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade on said Tuesday.
The examination was undertaken by the Australian Foreign Ministry in August 2016 after Israel indicted Mohammed El Halabi, director of World Vision’s Gaza branch, on allegations of funneling tens of millions of dollars to Hamas’ military wing, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation reported."
read more: Australia: No evidence aid group employee transferred government funds to Hamas

IDK . Dude admitted to working for them..

You are making things up. Of course, after they through torturing him, this may change.

World Vision employee Mohammad El Halabi pleads not guilty to funding Hamas in Gaza
By Middle East correspondent Sophie McNeill
Updated 2 Feb 2017, 6:23pm

"World Vision employee pleads not guilty to funding Hamas

He admitted he worked for them. He admitted his father worked for them. Spin that how you wish. I don't really give a shit. You Israel/Palestine junkies are worse than the liberals and conservatives here.

You're just making it up. He admitted nothing.

 

[TNHarley]

Wahid plead guilty...
So the two are doing nothing but exchanges words with no proof? Lol, they didn't "clear" anything. You just sound biased.

"An internal review of the accusations that an employee of the Christian-sponsored civilian aid group World Vision used donor funds to support Hamas in the Gaza Strip has not found any evidence that he diverted Australian government aid, the Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade on said Tuesday.
The examination was undertaken by the Australian Foreign Ministry in August 2016 after Israel indicted Mohammed El Halabi, director of World Vision’s Gaza branch, on allegations of funneling tens of millions of dollars to Hamas’ military wing, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation reported."
read more: Australia: No evidence aid group employee transferred government funds to Hamas

IDK . Dude admitted to working for them..

You are making things up. Of course, after they through torturing him, this may change.

World Vision employee Mohammad El Halabi pleads not guilty to funding Hamas in Gaza
By Middle East correspondent Sophie McNeill
Updated 2 Feb 2017, 6:23pm

"World Vision employee pleads not guilty to funding Hamas

He admitted he worked for them. He admitted his father worked for them. Spin that how you wish. I don't really give a shit. You Israel/Palestine junkies are worse than the liberals and conservatives here.

You're just making it up. He admitted nothing.

No im not
During the investigation, El-Halabi revealed that he has been a Hamas member since his youth and had undergone organizational and military training in the early 2000s.
In 2005, Hamas dispatched El-Halabi to infiltrate World Vision. El-Halabi related that Hamas believed that he had a good chance of infiltrating the humanitarian aid organization because his father works for the UN.
He added that his father, Halil El-Halabi, who has served as head of UNWRA’s educational institutions in the Gaza Strip for years, is a member of Hamas and uses his position as a UN employee to help the terrorist organization.
World Vision's Christian Donations Funded Hamas
Its also worth considering Australia has donated 3M bucks to the branch in Gaza..

 

[montelatici]

"An internal review of the accusations that an employee of the Christian-sponsored civilian aid group World Vision used donor funds to support Hamas in the Gaza Strip has not found any evidence that he diverted Australian government aid, the Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade on said Tuesday.
The examination was undertaken by the Australian Foreign Ministry in August 2016 after Israel indicted Mohammed El Halabi, director of World Vision’s Gaza branch, on allegations of funneling tens of millions of dollars to Hamas’ military wing, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation reported."
read more: Australia: No evidence aid group employee transferred government funds to Hamas

IDK . Dude admitted to working for them..

You are making things up. Of course, after they through torturing him, this may change.

World Vision employee Mohammad El Halabi pleads not guilty to funding Hamas in Gaza
By Middle East correspondent Sophie McNeill
Updated 2 Feb 2017, 6:23pm

"World Vision employee pleads not guilty to funding Hamas

He admitted he worked for them. He admitted his father worked for them. Spin that how you wish. I don't really give a shit. You Israel/Palestine junkies are worse than the liberals and conservatives here.

You're just making it up. He admitted nothing.

No im not
During the investigation, El-Halabi revealed that he has been a Hamas member since his youth and had undergone organizational and military training in the early 2000s.
In 2005, Hamas dispatched El-Halabi to infiltrate World Vision. El-Halabi related that Hamas believed that he had a good chance of infiltrating the humanitarian aid organization because his father works for the UN.
He added that his father, Halil El-Halabi, who has served as head of UNWRA’s educational institutions in the Gaza Strip for years, is a member of Hamas and uses his position as a UN employee to help the terrorist organization.
World Vision's Christian Donations Funded Hamas
Its also worth considering Australia has donated 3M bucks to the branch in Gaza..

As usual, you people use and quote Israeli propaganda exclusively.

How about using a somewhat neutral source. Israel is an oppressive authoritarian state for all but the Jews.

They run kangaroo courts to jail anyone that resists oppression.

"Mahmoud told the Israeli newspaper Haaretz that el-Halabi denies any ties to Hamas. Mahmoud notes that Israel took 55 days before charging his client, and believes that the lag time suggests Israel had problems building the case.

"The Israel security agency Shin Bet alleges that about $43 million was diverted to Hamas over the last six years, The New York Times reported.

However, $43 million appears to be more than the entire amount of money World Vision has allocated to Gaza over that time period.

In a statement to The Seattle Times, World Vision said the annual Gaza budget ranges from $4 million to $6 million annually. The money is part of some $12 million annually the organization spends in Gaza, Jerusalem and the West Bank, the nonprofit said.

“I think the world should be very skeptical about his (el-Halabi’s) arrest and suspect of Israel claims,” said John McKay, a former U.S. attorney for Western Washington who spent two years in the West Bank while serving in a U.S.-sponsored rule-of-law program.


McKay said the Israeli government has sometimes denied legal rights to detained Palestinians, with charges not always supported by evidence. He also said there has long been friction between the Israeli government and international aid agencies that seek to act independently in Gaza.

Was World Vision official ‘major figure’ in Hamas?

 

[TNHarley]

IDK . Dude admitted to working for them..

You are making things up. Of course, after they through torturing him, this may change.

World Vision employee Mohammad El Halabi pleads not guilty to funding Hamas in Gaza
By Middle East correspondent Sophie McNeill
Updated 2 Feb 2017, 6:23pm

"World Vision employee pleads not guilty to funding Hamas

He admitted he worked for them. He admitted his father worked for them. Spin that how you wish. I don't really give a shit. You Israel/Palestine junkies are worse than the liberals and conservatives here.

You're just making it up. He admitted nothing.

No im not
During the investigation, El-Halabi revealed that he has been a Hamas member since his youth and had undergone organizational and military training in the early 2000s.
In 2005, Hamas dispatched El-Halabi to infiltrate World Vision. El-Halabi related that Hamas believed that he had a good chance of infiltrating the humanitarian aid organization because his father works for the UN.
He added that his father, Halil El-Halabi, who has served as head of UNWRA’s educational institutions in the Gaza Strip for years, is a member of Hamas and uses his position as a UN employee to help the terrorist organization.
World Vision's Christian Donations Funded Hamas
Its also worth considering Australia has donated 3M bucks to the branch in Gaza..

As usual, you people use and quote Israeli propaganda exclusively.

How about using a somewhat neutral source. Israel is an oppressive authoritarian state for all but the Jews.

They run kangaroo courts to jail anyone that resists oppression.

"Mahmoud told the Israeli newspaper Haaretz that el-Halabi denies any ties to Hamas. Mahmoud notes that Israel took 55 days before charging his client, and believes that the lag time suggests Israel had problems building the case.

"The Israel security agency Shin Bet alleges that about $43 million was diverted to Hamas over the last six years, The New York Times reported.

However, $43 million appears to be more than the entire amount of money World Vision has allocated to Gaza over that time period.

In a statement to The Seattle Times, World Vision said the annual Gaza budget ranges from $4 million to $6 million annually. The money is part of some $12 million annually the organization spends in Gaza, Jerusalem and the West Bank, the nonprofit said.

“I think the world should be very skeptical about his (el-Halabi’s) arrest and suspect of Israel claims,” said John McKay, a former U.S. attorney for Western Washington who spent two years in the West Bank while serving in a U.S.-sponsored rule-of-law program.


McKay said the Israeli government has sometimes denied legal rights to detained Palestinians, with charges not always supported by evidence. He also said there has long been friction between the Israeli government and international aid agencies that seek to act independently in Gaza.

Was World Vision official ‘major figure’ in Hamas?

"you people?" Lol the Israel/Palestine junkie throws me in the mix. How quaint. Guess what genius, I aint pro Israel. Personally, I don't give a shit. I wish both sides would STFU.
His lawyer is a more neutral source? LOL
Hell, they are probably both lying..

 

[montelatici]

You are making things up. Of course, after they through torturing him, this may change.

World Vision employee Mohammad El Halabi pleads not guilty to funding Hamas in Gaza
By Middle East correspondent Sophie McNeill
Updated 2 Feb 2017, 6:23pm

"World Vision employee pleads not guilty to funding Hamas

He admitted he worked for them. He admitted his father worked for them. Spin that how you wish. I don't really give a shit. You Israel/Palestine junkies are worse than the liberals and conservatives here.

You're just making it up. He admitted nothing.

No im not
During the investigation, El-Halabi revealed that he has been a Hamas member since his youth and had undergone organizational and military training in the early 2000s.
In 2005, Hamas dispatched El-Halabi to infiltrate World Vision. El-Halabi related that Hamas believed that he had a good chance of infiltrating the humanitarian aid organization because his father works for the UN.
He added that his father, Halil El-Halabi, who has served as head of UNWRA’s educational institutions in the Gaza Strip for years, is a member of Hamas and uses his position as a UN employee to help the terrorist organization.
World Vision's Christian Donations Funded Hamas
Its also worth considering Australia has donated 3M bucks to the branch in Gaza..

As usual, you people use and quote Israeli propaganda exclusively.

How about using a somewhat neutral source. Israel is an oppressive authoritarian state for all but the Jews.

They run kangaroo courts to jail anyone that resists oppression.

"Mahmoud told the Israeli newspaper Haaretz that el-Halabi denies any ties to Hamas. Mahmoud notes that Israel took 55 days before charging his client, and believes that the lag time suggests Israel had problems building the case.

"The Israel security agency Shin Bet alleges that about $43 million was diverted to Hamas over the last six years, The New York Times reported.

However, $43 million appears to be more than the entire amount of money World Vision has allocated to Gaza over that time period.

In a statement to The Seattle Times, World Vision said the annual Gaza budget ranges from $4 million to $6 million annually. The money is part of some $12 million annually the organization spends in Gaza, Jerusalem and the West Bank, the nonprofit said.

“I think the world should be very skeptical about his (el-Halabi’s) arrest and suspect of Israel claims,” said John McKay, a former U.S. attorney for Western Washington who spent two years in the West Bank while serving in a U.S.-sponsored rule-of-law program.


McKay said the Israeli government has sometimes denied legal rights to detained Palestinians, with charges not always supported by evidence. He also said there has long been friction between the Israeli government and international aid agencies that seek to act independently in Gaza.

Was World Vision official ‘major figure’ in Hamas?

"you people?" Lol the Israel/Palestine junkie throws me in the mix. How quaint. Guess what genius, I aint pro Israel. Personally, I don't give a shit. I wish both sides would STFU.
His lawyer is a more neutral source? LOL
Hell, they are probably both lying..

Certainly more than an Israeli propaganda outlet.

 

[TNHarley]

He admitted he worked for them. He admitted his father worked for them. Spin that how you wish. I don't really give a shit. You Israel/Palestine junkies are worse than the liberals and conservatives here.

You're just making it up. He admitted nothing.

No im not
During the investigation, El-Halabi revealed that he has been a Hamas member since his youth and had undergone organizational and military training in the early 2000s.
In 2005, Hamas dispatched El-Halabi to infiltrate World Vision. El-Halabi related that Hamas believed that he had a good chance of infiltrating the humanitarian aid organization because his father works for the UN.
He added that his father, Halil El-Halabi, who has served as head of UNWRA’s educational institutions in the Gaza Strip for years, is a member of Hamas and uses his position as a UN employee to help the terrorist organization.
World Vision's Christian Donations Funded Hamas
Its also worth considering Australia has donated 3M bucks to the branch in Gaza..

As usual, you people use and quote Israeli propaganda exclusively.

How about using a somewhat neutral source. Israel is an oppressive authoritarian state for all but the Jews.

They run kangaroo courts to jail anyone that resists oppression.

"Mahmoud told the Israeli newspaper Haaretz that el-Halabi denies any ties to Hamas. Mahmoud notes that Israel took 55 days before charging his client, and believes that the lag time suggests Israel had problems building the case.

"The Israel security agency Shin Bet alleges that about $43 million was diverted to Hamas over the last six years, The New York Times reported.

However, $43 million appears to be more than the entire amount of money World Vision has allocated to Gaza over that time period.

In a statement to The Seattle Times, World Vision said the annual Gaza budget ranges from $4 million to $6 million annually. The money is part of some $12 million annually the organization spends in Gaza, Jerusalem and the West Bank, the nonprofit said.

“I think the world should be very skeptical about his (el-Halabi’s) arrest and suspect of Israel claims,” said John McKay, a former U.S. attorney for Western Washington who spent two years in the West Bank while serving in a U.S.-sponsored rule-of-law program.


McKay said the Israeli government has sometimes denied legal rights to detained Palestinians, with charges not always supported by evidence. He also said there has long been friction between the Israeli government and international aid agencies that seek to act independently in Gaza.

Was World Vision official ‘major figure’ in Hamas?

"you people?" Lol the Israel/Palestine junkie throws me in the mix. How quaint. Guess what genius, I aint pro Israel. Personally, I don't give a shit. I wish both sides would STFU.
His lawyer is a more neutral source? LOL
Hell, they are probably both lying..

Certainly more than an Israeli propaganda outlet.

Lol you are a joke. Good day!

 

[montelatici]

You're just making it up. He admitted nothing.

No im not
During the investigation, El-Halabi revealed that he has been a Hamas member since his youth and had undergone organizational and military training in the early 2000s.
In 2005, Hamas dispatched El-Halabi to infiltrate World Vision. El-Halabi related that Hamas believed that he had a good chance of infiltrating the humanitarian aid organization because his father works for the UN.
He added that his father, Halil El-Halabi, who has served as head of UNWRA’s educational institutions in the Gaza Strip for years, is a member of Hamas and uses his position as a UN employee to help the terrorist organization.
World Vision's Christian Donations Funded Hamas
Its also worth considering Australia has donated 3M bucks to the branch in Gaza..

As usual, you people use and quote Israeli propaganda exclusively.

How about using a somewhat neutral source. Israel is an oppressive authoritarian state for all but the Jews.

They run kangaroo courts to jail anyone that resists oppression.

"Mahmoud told the Israeli newspaper Haaretz that el-Halabi denies any ties to Hamas. Mahmoud notes that Israel took 55 days before charging his client, and believes that the lag time suggests Israel had problems building the case.

"The Israel security agency Shin Bet alleges that about $43 million was diverted to Hamas over the last six years, The New York Times reported.

However, $43 million appears to be more than the entire amount of money World Vision has allocated to Gaza over that time period.

In a statement to The Seattle Times, World Vision said the annual Gaza budget ranges from $4 million to $6 million annually. The money is part of some $12 million annually the organization spends in Gaza, Jerusalem and the West Bank, the nonprofit said.

“I think the world should be very skeptical about his (el-Halabi’s) arrest and suspect of Israel claims,” said John McKay, a former U.S. attorney for Western Washington who spent two years in the West Bank while serving in a U.S.-sponsored rule-of-law program.


McKay said the Israeli government has sometimes denied legal rights to detained Palestinians, with charges not always supported by evidence. He also said there has long been friction between the Israeli government and international aid agencies that seek to act independently in Gaza.

Was World Vision official ‘major figure’ in Hamas?

"you people?" Lol the Israel/Palestine junkie throws me in the mix. How quaint. Guess what genius, I aint pro Israel. Personally, I don't give a shit. I wish both sides would STFU.
His lawyer is a more neutral source? LOL
Hell, they are probably both lying..

Certainly more than an Israeli propaganda outlet.

Lol you are a joke. Good day!

Believing that Israeli propaganda sites actually provide news is the joke, on you. LOL