Attempted coup d' etat underway in Venezuela.

[Toddsterpatriot]

Dat's Capitalism, Hank.

And without Social Security, Medicare, public schools and roads it would look
like Bangladesh.

Without Capitalism it would look like Venezuela.

The capitalists are the ones hurting Venezuela.
Stop your silly fucking lying .

The capitalists are the ones hurting Venezuela.

How are those socialists doing at providing enough food and toilet paper (for fuck sake) for their people?

Not very well when the US imposes sanctions so they can strangle Venezuela. And this is our business how?

Didn't realize the US was the only source for food and toilet paper in the world.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Didn't realize the US was the only source for food and toilet paper in the world.

Har, har.
Sunshine.. on your BS.. makes you crappy!..

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Didn't realize the US was the only source for food and toilet paper in the world.

Har, har.
Sunshine.. on your BS.. makes you crappy!..

On which date was tp sanctioned?

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[P F Tinmore]

Code Pink Reports on Venezuela Embassy Takeover, ft Lee Camp, Ariel Gold

 

[emilynghiem]

The Venezuelan military is so committed to democracy and professional they are keeping a butcher and dictator in office as they beat, shoot and simply drive over citizens of Venezuela that want their nightmare to end as their nation has become a dystopic dysfunctional authoritarian hell hole.

He's not a dictator.

He was democratically elected with more support than in any western nation.

As far as how the democratically elected government puts down a coup? I don't really care how violently they shoot, maim, kill, drive over, or otherwise demolish fools that try to overthrow a democratically and legitimately elected government.

If their government is so dystopic, maybe the international cabal of criminals and thieves should allow the people of Venezuela to trade and do business with the world again, as they have not done anything wrong other than choose a government of their own sovereign choice.

How much sympathy would you have for Antifa if they tried to overthrow Trump and they were treated in a similar fashion? I am willing to bet, not much, eh?

Agree. They chose their government, they can unchoose it.

Thank you. THAT is the point. It is none of our business.

Nor should we be putting sanctions on them just because we don't care for the type of government they choose to have. They are the idiots that want to live with an unproductive type of economy, that is on THEM. They should have the freedom to have that, it is their right. It is THEIR natural resources, not ours.

Eventually, socialism will turn to complete corruption and backwardness. . .. IT will doom them, if they can't see from Cuba's example, rather than learn from Russia, that is on them.

It is a war crime what the west is doing to them. Blockades and siege-warfare always have been.

Any country has the right to sanction any other. No one can be forced to trade. But the Venezuelans voted in Socialism, had their guns confiscated, and now they must accept the consequences of their own stupidity.

I think that is a loathsome way to conduct business.

Starving children because you do not want their parents to have political emancipation?


Well, the refugee problems from S. America are on us then. . . . .

RE:

Starving children because you do not want their parents to have political emancipation?

Dear MisterBeale
I thought this was being blamed on the corrupt govt,
that was blocking aid from other sources coming in,
because they wanted to maintain control of their people.
Even if that meant killing them by either starving or attacking them.​

 

[emilynghiem]

Watching socialism come to its predictable end is so sad. Those people are being shot and run over by tanks! Disgusting. It just proves you can vote your way into socialism, but you have to fight your way out.

Where did you see Venezuelan tanks running over civilians?

Armored vehicle runs over protesters in Venezuela (IN SPANISH)
georgephillip
SOCIALISM: Venezuelan Military Uses Deadly Force to Keep Citizens From Getting Food...

 

[P F Tinmore]

Watching socialism come to its predictable end is so sad. Those people are being shot and run over by tanks! Disgusting. It just proves you can vote your way into socialism, but you have to fight your way out.

Where did you see Venezuelan tanks running over civilians?

Armored vehicle runs over protesters in Venezuela (IN SPANISH)
georgephillip
SOCIALISM: Venezuelan Military Uses Deadly Force to Keep Citizens From Getting Food...

We have been lied into virtually every war since WWII. How many times do we have to watch these reruns before we realize that we are being hoodwinked?

 

[Likkmee]

It wont be long before the Coup de Ville shows up and Maduro leaves horizontally in the back of it.
Ya see. The empire tries sanctions, then destroying currency to gain civil unrest.
Next comes a CIA hit. If that fails.......think Noriega and Panama. Figure 10-30,000 dead brown people in a couple-three days and one meathead in handcuffs headed to Miami.

 

[MisterBeale]

He's not a dictator.

He was democratically elected with more support than in any western nation.

As far as how the democratically elected government puts down a coup? I don't really care how violently they shoot, maim, kill, drive over, or otherwise demolish fools that try to overthrow a democratically and legitimately elected government.

If their government is so dystopic, maybe the international cabal of criminals and thieves should allow the people of Venezuela to trade and do business with the world again, as they have not done anything wrong other than choose a government of their own sovereign choice.

How much sympathy would you have for Antifa if they tried to overthrow Trump and they were treated in a similar fashion? I am willing to bet, not much, eh?

Agree. They chose their government, they can unchoose it.

Thank you. THAT is the point. It is none of our business.

Nor should we be putting sanctions on them just because we don't care for the type of government they choose to have. They are the idiots that want to live with an unproductive type of economy, that is on THEM. They should have the freedom to have that, it is their right. It is THEIR natural resources, not ours.

Eventually, socialism will turn to complete corruption and backwardness. . .. IT will doom them, if they can't see from Cuba's example, rather than learn from Russia, that is on them.

It is a war crime what the west is doing to them. Blockades and siege-warfare always have been.

Any country has the right to sanction any other. No one can be forced to trade. But the Venezuelans voted in Socialism, had their guns confiscated, and now they must accept the consequences of their own stupidity.

I think that is a loathsome way to conduct business.

Starving children because you do not want their parents to have political emancipation?


Well, the refugee problems from S. America are on us then. . . . .

RE:

Starving children because you do not want their parents to have political emancipation?

Dear MisterBeale
I thought this was being blamed on the corrupt govt,
that was blocking aid from other sources coming in,
because they wanted to maintain control of their people.
Even if that meant killing them by either starving or attacking them.​

What ever the corporate MSM press is telling you, it is all lies, be assured of that.

America's dollar is based on petroleum. Venezuela has on of the greatest petroleum reserves, and the people of Venezuela are NOT letting their petroleum reserves be bought and sold on the free market with America's reserve currency. This is a direct threat to our economy and our hegemony Thus, the CFR, in concert with our national and international media partners is going to give you false information about what is going on down there.

If you do the research, you will find that the reality of the situation IS NOT what you believe it is.

The government could not be so corrupt as to allow people to "starve" or else it would not have popular support. You have fallen for propaganda.

 

[MisterBeale]

Watching socialism come to its predictable end is so sad. Those people are being shot and run over by tanks! Disgusting. It just proves you can vote your way into socialism, but you have to fight your way out.

Where did you see Venezuelan tanks running over civilians?

Armored vehicle runs over protesters in Venezuela (IN SPANISH)
georgephillip
SOCIALISM: Venezuelan Military Uses Deadly Force to Keep Citizens From Getting Food...

How Lies Become ‘Facts’ in US ‘News’ - OffGuardian

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

What ever the corporate MSM press is telling you, it is all lies, be assured of that.

America's dollar is based on petroleum. Venezuela has on of the greatest petroleum reserves, and the people of Venezuela are NOT letting their petroleum reserves be bought and sold on the free market with America's reserve currency. This is a direct threat to our economy and our hegemony Thus, the CFR, in concert with our national and international media partners is going to give you false information about what is going on down there.

If you do the research, you will find that the reality of the situation IS NOT what you believe it is.

The government could not be so corrupt as to allow people to "starve" or else it would not have popular support. You have fallen for propaganda.

Right . When you see video of people being beaten, shot at, run over, being hit by water cannons you can't trust your lying eyes. That's all propaganda.
The people all fleeing Venezuela for neighboring nations aren't running away from Maduro...they are just ecstatic and eager to tell others how wonderful life in Venezuela is.

 

[MisterBeale]

What ever the corporate MSM press is telling you, it is all lies, be assured of that.

America's dollar is based on petroleum. Venezuela has on of the greatest petroleum reserves, and the people of Venezuela are NOT letting their petroleum reserves be bought and sold on the free market with America's reserve currency. This is a direct threat to our economy and our hegemony Thus, the CFR, in concert with our national and international media partners is going to give you false information about what is going on down there.

If you do the research, you will find that the reality of the situation IS NOT what you believe it is.

The government could not be so corrupt as to allow people to "starve" or else it would not have popular support. You have fallen for propaganda.

Right . When you see video of people being beaten, shot at, run over, being hit by water cannons you can't trust your lying eyes. That's all propaganda.
The people all fleeing Venezuela for neighboring nations aren't running away from Maduro...they are just ecstatic and eager to tell others how wonderful life in Venezuela is.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Nice non sequitur comeback., Debate King.

 

[MisterBeale]

Nice non sequitur comeback., Debate King.

If you don't understand it's relevance, that is on you.

I think most intelligent folks understand the meaning.

Venezuela has a population of over 31 million. If you want the forum or America to believe a small group of a couple thousand represents the entire nation, then you are as obtuse as that small group.

If Antifa were to try to overthrow this nation's government and it was "beaten, shot at, run over, being hit by water cannons," would you be whining for China and Russia to similarly intervene?

Somehow I doubt it. Stop being such gullible a pussy.

 

[MisterBeale]

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Nice non sequitur comeback., Debate King.

If you don't understand it's relevance, that is on you.

I think most intelligent folks understand the meaning.

Venezuela has a population of over 31 million. If you want the forum or America to believe a small group of a couple thousand represents the entire nation, then you are as obtuse as that small group.

If Antifa were to try to overthrow this nation's government and it was "beaten, shot at, run over, being hit by water cannons," would you be whining for China and Russia to similarly intervene?

Somehow I doubt it. Stop being such gullible a pussy.

Venezuela has a population of over 31 million.

How many fled recently?

 

[MisterBeale]

Nice non sequitur comeback., Debate King.

If you don't understand it's relevance, that is on you.

I think most intelligent folks understand the meaning.

Venezuela has a population of over 31 million. If you want the forum or America to believe a small group of a couple thousand represents the entire nation, then you are as obtuse as that small group.

If Antifa were to try to overthrow this nation's government and it was "beaten, shot at, run over, being hit by water cannons," would you be whining for China and Russia to similarly intervene?

Somehow I doubt it. Stop being such gullible a pussy.

Venezuela has a population of over 31 million.

How many fled recently?

I haven't got a clue.

Do you?

I am sure we could not get accurate information on that. Only propaganda pushing on narrative or another.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

If you don't understand it's relevance, that is on you.

I think most intelligent folks understand the meaning.

I understand you want to imply some meaning that somehow
exculpates what the butcher Maduro is doing.
Like all boot licking apologists for dictators you fail.

Venezuela has a population of over 31 million. If you want the forum or America to believe a small group of a couple thousand represents the entire nation, then you are as obtuse as that small group.

That's really very funny.
Have you been doing comedy long?

If Antifa were to try to overthrow this nation's government and it was "beaten, shot at, run over, being hit by water cannons," would you be whining for China and Russia to similarly intervene?

Such a biased, loaded clumsy attempt at an analogy. Antifa is not involved. Maduro gained power by rigging national elections. The map I provided shows the entire developed world wants Venezuela returned to sanity and their dictator removed.

Somehow I doubt it. Stop being such gullible a pussy.

You are no better than a minor league Josef Goebbles or Baghdad Bob....take your knee pads off and pull up your pants.