Atheists Win: Santa Monica City Council Votes to End Religious Displays

[pinqy]

Atheists Win: Santa Monica City Council Votes to End Religious Displays

No "War on Christmas"?

So let me get this straight....the city had been allowing ONLY Christian displays. When forced to actually follow the 1st Ammendment and allow all religious beliefs, they did so, and have now decided that because they don't want a particular viewpoint to be allowed to be expressed, they have cancelled all displays.

And your objection is that should specifically endorse and allow only Christian beliefs? Really?

Read much? Jewish and atheist displays were welcomed.

Not until last year they weren't. They had to fight to get them.

But the haters splintered into 18 groups and left the space vacant just so no one else could use it.

I didn't see anything about "splitting" into 18 groups, and it's not clear how the division of and assignment of space was made. It was a dick move to ask for the space and not use it, but that can be solved in other ways than not allowing any displays at all.

They prefer ugly to festive. They won. Hate triumphed.

I agree that hate triumphed, but it was hate as in "Christian only, or not at all."

 

[tjvh]

Christianity, as the basis for our Western Civilization, will survive the petty and narrow-minded atheist groups of today, not to worry.

that is all well and not done, but today, you don't get all the cookies at christmas

It must really hurt those atheists that it's still called Christmas.

Yeah... All fifteen of them.

 

[Dr.House]

Santa Monica has hosted nativity scenes in Palisades Park for 60 years. Beginning in 1953, a coalition of 13 churches joined a local police organization to put up nativity displays. The displays consisted of more than a dozen scenes from the birth of Jesus as depicted in the Gospels created out of sets and using mannequins dressed in period costumes.

But in the last few years atheist groups have challenged the practice and demanded space for their own displays. Last year, the display area was divided up into small display spaces and split up among dozens of applicants. The coalition of churches which had been using the park got just three of the spaces, meaning the majority of their display remained in storage. One space went to a Jewish group and two to other churches. Eighteen of the spaces went to atheists groups.

Now Santa Monica has simply put an end to the displays altogether. .

Atheists Win: Santa Monica City Council Votes to End Religious Displays

No "War on Christmas"?

The problem is that Christians object to Atheist Displays

So just what does an athiest display for the holidays?

 

[rightwinger]

Atheists Win: Santa Monica City Council Votes to End Religious Displays

No "War on Christmas"?

The problem is that Christians object to Atheist Displays

So just what does an athiest display for the holidays?

 

[Artevelde]

No more than it hurts Christians that the days of the week are named after Pagan gods.

Then why are they so intolerant of Christmas displays?

They're not. They're opposed to the Unconstitutional government support of ONLY Christian (or any other religious/anti-rlegious) displays. The intolerance was in not allowing ANY displays rather than letting Atheists have displays. Show me where Atheists asked for only Atheist displays. The Christians were asking for only Christian displays.

Atheists don't have displays idiot. That's why they want to prevent everybody else from having theirs.

 

[pinqy]

Then why are they so intolerant of Christmas displays?

They're not. They're opposed to the Unconstitutional government support of ONLY Christian (or any other religious/anti-rlegious) displays. The intolerance was in not allowing ANY displays rather than letting Atheists have displays. Show me where Atheists asked for only Atheist displays. The Christians were asking for only Christian displays.

Atheists don't have displays idiot. That's why they want to prevent everybody else from having theirs.

Jews weren't allowed displays either, then they were, now they're not.
And the Atheist groups did have displays, and then some of the groups chose not to actually use their space.

Christians were NEVER excluded. All other beliefs were. Now no one is.

 

[Dr.House]

The problem is that Christians object to Atheist Displays

So just what does an athiest display for the holidays?

Athiests believe in a red and white adorned Saint Nicholas and a reindeer that has a light-up nose?

And you think Christians have weird beliefs?

 

[bodecea]

Christianity, as the basis for our Western Civilization, will survive the petty and narrow-minded atheist groups of today, not to worry.

that is all well and not done, but today, you don't get all the cookies at christmas

It must really hurt those atheists that it's still called Christmas.

Yes, because we all know the proper way to celebrate is thru garish city-sponsered displays.....it's simply not able to be celebrated without those things.

 

[Artevelde]

They're not. They're opposed to the Unconstitutional government support of ONLY Christian (or any other religious/anti-rlegious) displays. The intolerance was in not allowing ANY displays rather than letting Atheists have displays. Show me where Atheists asked for only Atheist displays. The Christians were asking for only Christian displays.

Atheists don't have displays idiot. That's why they want to prevent everybody else from having theirs.

Jews weren't allowed displays either, then they were, now they're not.
And the Atheist groups did have displays, and then some of the groups chose not to actually use their space.

Christians were NEVER excluded. All other beliefs were. Now no one is.

So what exactly do atheists celebrate at Christmas?

 

[nitroz]

how about the intolerance of christians? Some people like a winter solstic part-a

Christianity, as the basis for our Western Civilization, will survive the petty and narrow-minded atheist groups of today, not to worry.

But always remember, tomorrow is another day.

 

[bodecea]

how about the intolerance of christians? Some people like a winter solstic part-a

Christianity, as the basis for our Western Civilization, will survive the petty and narrow-minded atheist groups of today, not to worry.

But always remember, tomorrow is another day.

Fiddle de dee.

 

[chanel]

They're not. They're opposed to the Unconstitutional government support of ONLY Christian (or any other religious/anti-rlegious) displays. The intolerance was in not allowing ANY displays rather than letting Atheists have displays. Show me where Atheists asked for only Atheist displays. The Christians were asking for only Christian displays.

Atheists don't have displays idiot. That's why they want to prevent everybody else from having theirs.

Jews weren't allowed displays either, then they were, now they're not.
And the Atheist groups did have displays, and then some of the groups chose not to actually use their space.

Christians were NEVER excluded. All other beliefs were. Now no one is.

The City of Santa Monica held a lottery for the first time this fall to allocate the temporary spaces in the city park, when 13 individuals applied for the available holiday display sites.

One space went to a Jewish organization, two went to churches, and 18 more were awarded to individuals whose stated intentions were “solstice greetings.”

Now the church group is angry that their crèches remain in storage, while most of the spots awarded to atheists sit vacant.

“Our belief is that these new applicants have been working to displace and push out the nativity scenes from the park, rather than erecting a full display of their own,” said Hunter Jameson, a spokesman for the churches, in an interview with the Santa Monica Daily Press.

Atheist Group Ousts Church Christmas Displays From Santa Monica Park « CBS Los Angeles

The "atheist group" isn't even from Santa Monica. They are on a mission to get rid of all Christmas/holiday/seasonal displays, and you defend them?

Regardless of the haters and their apologists, there is no denying the "War on Christmas".

 

[rightwinger]

Atheists don't have displays idiot. That's why they want to prevent everybody else from having theirs.

Jews weren't allowed displays either, then they were, now they're not.
And the Atheist groups did have displays, and then some of the groups chose not to actually use their space.

Christians were NEVER excluded. All other beliefs were. Now no one is.

The City of Santa Monica held a lottery for the first time this fall to allocate the temporary spaces in the city park, when 13 individuals applied for the available holiday display sites.

One space went to a Jewish organization, two went to churches, and 18 more were awarded to individuals whose stated intentions were “solstice greetings.”

Now the church group is angry that their crèches remain in storage, while most of the spots awarded to atheists sit vacant.

“Our belief is that these new applicants have been working to displace and push out the nativity scenes from the park, rather than erecting a full display of their own,” said Hunter Jameson, a spokesman for the churches, in an interview with the Santa Monica Daily Press.

Atheist Group Ousts Church Christmas Displays From Santa Monica Park « CBS Los Angeles

The "atheist group" isn't even from Santa Monica. They are on a mission to get rid of all Christmas/holiday/seasonal displays, and you defend them?

Regardless of the haters and their apologists, there is no denying the "War on Christmas".

War on Christmas?

They start putting out Christmas displays right after Labor Day

 

[bodecea]

Atheists don't have displays idiot. That's why they want to prevent everybody else from having theirs.

Jews weren't allowed displays either, then they were, now they're not.
And the Atheist groups did have displays, and then some of the groups chose not to actually use their space.

Christians were NEVER excluded. All other beliefs were. Now no one is.

The City of Santa Monica held a lottery for the first time this fall to allocate the temporary spaces in the city park, when 13 individuals applied for the available holiday display sites.

One space went to a Jewish organization, two went to churches, and 18 more were awarded to individuals whose stated intentions were “solstice greetings.”

Now the church group is angry that their crèches remain in storage, while most of the spots awarded to atheists sit vacant.

“Our belief is that these new applicants have been working to displace and push out the nativity scenes from the park, rather than erecting a full display of their own,” said Hunter Jameson, a spokesman for the churches, in an interview with the Santa Monica Daily Press.

Atheist Group Ousts Church Christmas Displays From Santa Monica Park « CBS Los Angeles

The "atheist group" isn't even from Santa Monica. They are on a mission to get rid of all Christmas/holiday/seasonal displays, and you defend them?

Regardless of the haters and their apologists, there is no denying the "War on Christmas".

Damn....they've managed to get Christmas/holiday/seasonal displays removed from Churches and PRIVATE property? Damn.

 

[Dr.House]

Atheists don't have displays idiot. That's why they want to prevent everybody else from having theirs.

Jews weren't allowed displays either, then they were, now they're not.
And the Atheist groups did have displays, and then some of the groups chose not to actually use their space.

Christians were NEVER excluded. All other beliefs were. Now no one is.

The City of Santa Monica held a lottery for the first time this fall to allocate the temporary spaces in the city park, when 13 individuals applied for the available holiday display sites.

One space went to a Jewish organization, two went to churches, and 18 more were awarded to individuals whose stated intentions were “solstice greetings.”

Now the church group is angry that their crèches remain in storage, while most of the spots awarded to atheists sit vacant.

“Our belief is that these new applicants have been working to displace and push out the nativity scenes from the park, rather than erecting a full display of their own,” said Hunter Jameson, a spokesman for the churches, in an interview with the Santa Monica Daily Press.

Atheist Group Ousts Church Christmas Displays From Santa Monica Park « CBS Los Angeles

The "atheist group" isn't even from Santa Monica. They are on a mission to get rid of all Christmas/holiday/seasonal displays, and you defend them?

Regardless of the haters and their apologists, there is no denying the "War on Christmas".

Athiests aren't just happy in their own non-beliefs...

They want to force their non-beliefs down the throats of Christians...

 

[bodecea]

Jews weren't allowed displays either, then they were, now they're not.
And the Atheist groups did have displays, and then some of the groups chose not to actually use their space.

Christians were NEVER excluded. All other beliefs were. Now no one is.

The City of Santa Monica held a lottery for the first time this fall to allocate the temporary spaces in the city park, when 13 individuals applied for the available holiday display sites.

One space went to a Jewish organization, two went to churches, and 18 more were awarded to individuals whose stated intentions were “solstice greetings.”

Now the church group is angry that their crèches remain in storage, while most of the spots awarded to atheists sit vacant.

“Our belief is that these new applicants have been working to displace and push out the nativity scenes from the park, rather than erecting a full display of their own,” said Hunter Jameson, a spokesman for the churches, in an interview with the Santa Monica Daily Press.

Atheist Group Ousts Church Christmas Displays From Santa Monica Park « CBS Los Angeles

The "atheist group" isn't even from Santa Monica. They are on a mission to get rid of all Christmas/holiday/seasonal displays, and you defend them?

Regardless of the haters and their apologists, there is no denying the "War on Christmas".

Athiests aren't just happy in their own non-beliefs...

They want to force their non-beliefs down the throats of Christians...

By getting all signs of Christmas and Jesus removed from Church and PRIVATE property.

 

[Dante]

actually Christians tore down atheist's stuff. violence can't be far behind. Christians are know to shoot nonbelievers and they also have been known to bomb places they disagree with.

why would you, being a professed Christian, lie through omission?

 

[chanel]

Link?

I never said the war was won. Just another battle. Hey bode - how about "public housing"?

 

[NLT]

Atheist Group Ousts Church Christmas Displays From Santa Monica Park « CBS Los Angeles

The "atheist group" isn't even from Santa Monica. They are on a mission to get rid of all Christmas/holiday/seasonal displays, and you defend them?

Regardless of the haters and their apologists, there is no denying the "War on Christmas".

Athiests aren't just happy in their own non-beliefs...

They want to force their non-beliefs down the throats of Christians...

By getting all signs of Christmas and Jesus removed from Church and PRIVATE property.

What happened to the orange Bodey?

 

[chanel]

Link? Don't call me a liar. I read three articles on this and vandalism was never mentioned. Liar.

I never said the war was won. Just another battle. Hey bode - how about "public housing"?