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At what point will the Panic Porn stop, and the virtue signalers listen to reason??

SweetSue92

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Nonsense.

No one is mandating vaccination and reducing transmission with masks and etc. reduces infections and deaths.

Mandating vaccines is being floated everywhere. Fortunately, I think most Americans are opposed AND I think common sense is opposed. If you can be fully vaccinated and still contract and transmit covid, mandates are pointless.
 

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Nonsense.

No one is mandating vaccination and reducing transmission with masks and etc. reduces infections and serious illness and deaths.
I see no real indication that the mask mandates did any such thing most likely because of widespread flouting of the mandates coupled with the reality the vast majority that complied do not wear their masks properly.

That still ignores the point, you WILL be exposed - that is a fact because it is going to stick around for the long haul and you have complete access to the vaccine. That is what reduces the serious risks. Those that choose not to get it are taking their own risks. Now that we also know the vaccine does little to stop the transmission of the delta variant this is doubly so.
 

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I agree with your basic premise but it is in no way guaranteed that "everyone will get covid". Some people will have natural T-cell immunity; their immune systems will recognize Covid-19 from exposures to other coronaviruses and fight it off. This is why it is thought, in part, that children under 10 do not get serious cases. They are often exposed to coronaviruses
Sure, perhaps I should say we are all going to get exposed. Considering the virus will not simply disappear, it is going to evolve naturally and an equilibrium will have to be achieved.

Masks will do nothing to prevent that reality.
 

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Thats right genius, we DID have social distancing and we DID practice preventative measures like masking up and DO have people vaccinated now - thats the whole point!

It is exactly WHY we DON'T have over a million dead by now. Thats what you and other misguided hard-right fools are aguing AGAINST.
See, that’s the flaw in your reasoning…I am vaccinated, and I made that decision on my own, with consultation with my doctor. Which is how it should be.

People don’t need you authoritarian marxists to force anything on people, and the more you do, the more it will be rejected.
 

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See, that’s the flaw in your reasoning…I am vaccinated, and I made that decision on my own, with consultation with my doctor. Which is how it should be.

People don’t need you authoritarian marxists to force anything on people, and the more you do, the more it will be rejected.
Another right winger who is vaccinated and trying to get others not to.
 

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Another right winger who is vaccinated and trying to get others not to.

You mean by standing up for personal choice? Yes, guilty.
 

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Right now CNN is highlighting the COVID NIGHTMARE in Georgia.
COVID CASES UP 214%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MASK!!!! MASK!!!

But what is the actual numbers??
In the past 2 weeks there were 4,416 new cases in the state of Georgia.
HOWEVER - there have only been 11 deaths. ......... 11.

So... we need to mask up, close businesses again... for that?????????????

The death rate in Illinois, considered a hot spot is .005
More people die falling off of ladders than that!

The problem is doctors have no way to predict which cases will remain mild, which will go into escalated symptoms requiring weeks or months of hospitalization, and which will recover then suddenly lapse into severe cases or death.

So even if the end result is just a dozen deaths, in the meantime all the other cases of infection have to be monitored as if they could become damaging or deadly. That still puts excess strain on people (both patients and medical staff), employment and businesses from being out for 2 weeks, and losing people to chronic fatigue or death.


A small % still means a large spike in numbers due to the sheer infectiousness of the spread impacting a high volume up to 3 times more people than a regular flu.

The chronic cases still risk putting more people out of work and dependent on govt welfare.

Again, given the mass spread and large populations alone, even with a small % of serious lung/heart/brain damage in survivors means a large enough lobby to push for longterm govt assistance


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What part do you disagree with?

Would it help to clarify if I added the REASON Dr. Immanuel, Dr. Varron and other doctors successfully keeping their patients under control using HCQ, urge the EARLY treatment for ALL patients is to PREVENT any cases from escalating since we don't know which people will have which reactions?

Part of the outrage over censoring HCQ is that is DOES prevent the very spikes in hospitalizations behind the whole mask/vaccine pandemic scare.

Does that help clarify why it is so important to treat all infections early with HCQ to speed up recovery and prevent worse ICU cases and rates of hospitalization or death?

Dr. Immanuel has treated tens of thousands using HCQ combinations with other supplements as she consulted and trained other doctors to use. And reports only losing 10 patients.

So this is not the flu, but the panic and the mass impact can be prevented by early treatment using combinations that doctors have used to effectively treat patients.
These are preventable deaths of the unvaccinated, you want to see panic, wait till the children start dying. Then there will be more than enough blame to go around for everyone.
 

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These are preventable deaths of the unvaccinated, you want to see panic, wait till the children start dying. Then there will be more than enough blame to go around for everyone.
Thought you were too tired?
 

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I agree with your basic premise but it is in no way guaranteed that "everyone will get covid". Some people will have natural T-cell immunity; their immune systems will recognize Covid-19 from exposures to other coronaviruses and fight it off. This is why it is thought, in part, that children under 10 do not get serious cases. They are often exposed to coronaviruses
Given the way the Delta variant spreads...it is very likely that anyone not vaccinated will get covid.

It is so contagious that many who ARE vaccinated will get it as well but almost all will have mild or no symptoms...like Lady Lindsey Graham
 

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Given the way the Delta variant spreads...it is very likely that anyone not vaccinated will get covid.

It is so contagious that many who ARE vaccinated will get it as well but almost all will have mild or no symptoms...like Lady Lindsey Graham
So, construct yourself a bubble.
 

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See, that’s the flaw in your reasoning…I am vaccinated, and I made that decision on my own, with consultation with my doctor. Which is how it should be.

People don’t need you authoritarian marxists to force anything on people, and the more you do, the more it will be rejected.

Again, no one is forcing or advocating here forced vaccinations.

It seems you rightwingers just need to some strawman to bitch about when you are not spreading outright falsehoods and crackpot conspiracies.
 
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That is just a stupid fantasy in your head.

you got vaccinated. Good on you, now stop spreading drama queen bs about masks

You have been personally attacking us, you fucking liar.

And the issue isn't wearing masks, it's government forcing us to wear masks.

Our body our choice. That was just a stupid fantasy in your head, you didn't mean it, huh? It's all "drama queen" to believe that
 

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You have been personally attacking us, you fucking liar.

And the issue isn't wearing masks, it's government forcing us to wear masks.

Our body our choice. That was just a stupid fantasy in your head, you didn't mean it, huh? It's all "drama queen" to believe that

Oh you poor oppressed snowflake, how dare they make you put a mask to enter crowded places in the middle of the pandemic. The horror!

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Oh you poor oppressed snowflake, how dare they make you put a mask to enter crowded places in the middle of the pandemic. The horror!

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Bam, and antotutu loses it! Throwing things at the wall again, bam! I like pissing you off. Bam!
 

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Right now CNN is highlighting the COVID NIGHTMARE in Georgia.
COVID CASES UP 214%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MASK!!!! MASK!!!

But what is the actual numbers??
In the past 2 weeks there were 4,416 new cases in the state of Georgia.
HOWEVER - there have only been 11 deaths. ......... 11.

Georgia has recorded almost 350 Covid deaths since you've posted this three weeks ago, 90 of these happened in just two last recorded days.
 

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Lousiana - another Panic Porn Hot spot.... one of the "worst in the country!

Last 2 weeks
New Cases 4413
New Deaths - 20

Chance of survival - 99.64%
Lousiana has recorded almost 700 Covid deaths since you've posted this three weeks ago, 220 of these happened in just 4 last recorded days.
 

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