Assholes making trouble in Oregon

[jon_berzerk]

Not surprising that the government would be AGAINST anti-government militias. Lol. Too bad.

You are in this thread exactly why tinfoil grl?

As to the OP, those insurrectionists need to be put down hard and fast

Like blacklivesmatter does.

hands up dont shoot

 

[jc456]

The only thing that could have kept this from being an FBI fuckup would have been if the militia had fired the first shot.
As it is they are the ones that started the bloodshed.

There was no fuck up. They executed a lawful probable cause warrant. Lavoy refused to surrender to arrest. He lead the cops on a high speed chase, resisted arrest, and tried to run a police road block.

When Lavoy tried to pull a gun and murder an Oregon State Trooper, the Trooper rightfully shot him.

Point to the fuck up. At every stage, their reactions were lawful, measured, and appropriate.

there was no high speed chase. So not sure what video you watched. How could it be a chase on one road at the speed limit. ewwwwwwwwwww he drove his car the speed limit and that's a high speed chase. They knew there was a road block and didn't need to chase, they merely followed a car to the road block. High speed chase, ok frances.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Gotta love the irony. These are people who decry the poors getting "free phones" while they graze their cattle on public land for free and live off the welfare and SS.

 

[jc456]

Lavoy , a blow hard Right wing armed thug....vowed he would not be taken alive ...vowed to shoot if anyone tried to interfere with his crimes...he was stopped by the Police and fled heavily armed from Police ...he then crashed his car in a snow bank and came out resisting...he got shot...oh well shit happens

The FBI should send his widow a bill for the ammo they had to waste on him.

or they can enjoy the 10 by 10 room.

Save of course that the FBI are subject to the *actual* law, and not whatever hapless batshit you make up. And Lavoy reached for a gun to shoot a State trooper. This after resisting arrest, leading the cops on a highspeed chase, and running a police road block.

Lavoy was predictably shot before he could murder the Oregon State Trooper.

Prove it.

The police who were there cited Lavoy reaching for his pocket twice. After he was shot, they found a 9mm pistol in that same pocket. Plus, there's a video of Lavoy running from the scene, resisting arrest, running the road block and reaching for the gun.

That's a pair of credible eye witnesses, video evidence and physical evidence.

This will probably be used in law enforcement academies as a textbook justifiable shooting.

nope

 

[jc456]

Gotta love the irony. These are people who decry the poors getting "free phones" while they graze their cattle on public land for free and live off the welfare and SS.

why do the poor get free phones?

 

[jon_berzerk]

The only thing that could have kept this from being an FBI fuckup would have been if the militia had fired the first shot.
As it is they are the ones that started the bloodshed.

There was no fuck up. They executed a lawful probable cause warrant. Lavoy refused to surrender to arrest. He lead the cops on a high speed chase, resisted arrest, and tried to run a police road block.

When Lavoy tried to pull a gun and murder an Oregon State Trooper, the Trooper rightfully shot him.

Point to the fuck up. At every stage, their reactions were lawful, measured, and appropriate.

there was no high speed chase. So not sure what video you watched. How could it be a chase on one road at the speed limit. ewwwwwwwwwww he drove his car the speed limit and that's a high speed chase. They knew there was a road block and didn't need to chase, they merely followed a car to the road block. High speed chase, ok frances.

speaking of the high speed chase the roadblock was illegal as well

 

[Skylar]

The FBI should send his widow a bill for the ammo they had to waste on him.

or they can enjoy the 10 by 10 room.

Save of course that the FBI are subject to the *actual* law, and not whatever hapless batshit you make up. And Lavoy reached for a gun to shoot a State trooper. This after resisting arrest, leading the cops on a highspeed chase, and running a police road block.

Lavoy was predictably shot before he could murder the Oregon State Trooper.

Prove it.

The police who were there cited Lavoy reaching for his pocket twice. After he was shot, they found a 9mm pistol in that same pocket. Plus, there's a video of Lavoy running from the scene, resisting arrest, running the road block and reaching for the gun.

That's a pair of credible eye witnesses, video evidence and physical evidence.

This will probably be used in law enforcement academies as a textbook justifiable shooting.

nope

Yup. Remember, as you demonstrated so elegantly with your pseudo-legal gibbersh that any building the Feds don't use for 24 hours is abandoned under the law.......you have no idea how the law works.

Rendering your assessments of legal outcomes irrelevant.

 

[Dot Com]

Gotta love the irony. These are people who decry the poors getting "free phones" while they graze their cattle on public land for free and live off the welfare and SS.

truth is stranger than fiction

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Gotta love the irony. These are people who decry the poors getting "free phones" while they graze their cattle on public land for free and live off the welfare and SS.

why do the poor get free phones?

why do the white thugs get free grazing welfare and SS

 

[Skylar]

The only thing that could have kept this from being an FBI fuckup would have been if the militia had fired the first shot.
As it is they are the ones that started the bloodshed.

There was no fuck up. They executed a lawful probable cause warrant. Lavoy refused to surrender to arrest. He lead the cops on a high speed chase, resisted arrest, and tried to run a police road block.

When Lavoy tried to pull a gun and murder an Oregon State Trooper, the Trooper rightfully shot him.

Point to the fuck up. At every stage, their reactions were lawful, measured, and appropriate.

there was no high speed chase. So not sure what video you watched. How could it be a chase on one road at the speed limit. ewwwwwwwwwww he drove his car the speed limit and that's a high speed chase. They knew there was a road block and didn't need to chase, they merely followed a car to the road block. High speed chase, ok frances.

speaking of the high speed chase the roadblock was illegal as well

Says who?

Let me guess....the same bucket of irrelevant that told us that the gun found in the pocket Lavoy was reaching for was planted? That hapless soul doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.

Yeah, guys? The pseudo-legal gibberish that you make up and tell each other is irrelevant. Bundy and his ilk are in the realm of the *actual* law now. Not what you imagine.

 

[jon_berzerk]

The only thing that could have kept this from being an FBI fuckup would have been if the militia had fired the first shot.
As it is they are the ones that started the bloodshed.

There was no fuck up. They executed a lawful probable cause warrant. Lavoy refused to surrender to arrest. He lead the cops on a high speed chase, resisted arrest, and tried to run a police road block.

When Lavoy tried to pull a gun and murder an Oregon State Trooper, the Trooper rightfully shot him.

Point to the fuck up. At every stage, their reactions were lawful, measured, and appropriate.

there was no high speed chase. So not sure what video you watched. How could it be a chase on one road at the speed limit. ewwwwwwwwwww he drove his car the speed limit and that's a high speed chase. They knew there was a road block and didn't need to chase, they merely followed a car to the road block. High speed chase, ok frances.

speaking of the high speed chase the roadblock was illegal as well

Says who?

Let me guess....the same bucket of irrelevant that told us that the gun found in the pocket Lavoy was reaching for was planted? That hapless soul doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.

Yeah, guys? The pseudo-legal gibberish that you make up and tell each other is irrelevant. Bundy and his ilk are in the realm of the *actual* law now. Not what you imagine.

who cares what you think dickhead

 

[Arianrhod]

The only thing that could have kept this from being an FBI fuckup would have been if the militia had fired the first shot.
As it is they are the ones that started the bloodshed.

There was no fuck up. They executed a lawful probable cause warrant. Lavoy refused to surrender to arrest. He lead the cops on a high speed chase, resisted arrest, and tried to run a police road block.

When Lavoy tried to pull a gun and murder an Oregon State Trooper, the Trooper rightfully shot him.

Point to the fuck up. At every stage, their reactions were lawful, measured, and appropriate.

there was no high speed chase. So not sure what video you watched. How could it be a chase on one road at the speed limit. ewwwwwwwwwww he drove his car the speed limit and that's a high speed chase. They knew there was a road block and didn't need to chase, they merely followed a car to the road block. High speed chase, ok frances.

speaking of the high speed chase the roadblock was illegal as well

Says who?

Let me guess....the same bucket of irrelevant that told us that the gun found in the pocket Lavoy was reaching for was planted? That hapless soul doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.

Yeah, guys? The pseudo-legal gibberish that you make up and tell each other is irrelevant. Bundy and his ilk are in the realm of the *actual* law now. Not what you imagine.

who cares what you think dickhead

Reality?

 

[Skylar]

The only thing that could have kept this from being an FBI fuckup would have been if the militia had fired the first shot.
As it is they are the ones that started the bloodshed.

There was no fuck up. They executed a lawful probable cause warrant. Lavoy refused to surrender to arrest. He lead the cops on a high speed chase, resisted arrest, and tried to run a police road block.

When Lavoy tried to pull a gun and murder an Oregon State Trooper, the Trooper rightfully shot him.

Point to the fuck up. At every stage, their reactions were lawful, measured, and appropriate.

there was no high speed chase. So not sure what video you watched. How could it be a chase on one road at the speed limit. ewwwwwwwwwww he drove his car the speed limit and that's a high speed chase. They knew there was a road block and didn't need to chase, they merely followed a car to the road block. High speed chase, ok frances.

speaking of the high speed chase the roadblock was illegal as well

Says who?

Let me guess....the same bucket of irrelevant that told us that the gun found in the pocket Lavoy was reaching for was planted? That hapless soul doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.

Yeah, guys? The pseudo-legal gibberish that you make up and tell each other is irrelevant. Bundy and his ilk are in the realm of the *actual* law now. Not what you imagine.

who cares what you think dickhead

The cops aren't citing me. They're citing the two police officers who were standing within 20 feet of Lavoy when he was shot. And those who found the gun on his body.

Again, tell yourself whatever comforting lies that help sooth the dissonance. Imagine your own law, your own video, your own physics. Self sooth with as much rhetorical thumb sucking as you need.

Bundy and his ilk are still subject to the *actual* law no matter what you tell yourself.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Pete Santilli, ordered held, will challenge ruling before another judge Tuesday

• ● Shawna Cox's release conditions filed in federal court in Portland

 

[Faun]

I have been off topic in response to questions or off-topic statements made by others here. Faun just lately. She seems determined to excuse the inexcusable in that POS coward Kerry.

LOL

That "POS coward" earned a Silver Star and a Bronze Star with Combat "V" for heroism.

... you ... ?

Nope. He was awarded them. He earned a swift court martial and firing squad.
I was there and know what I'm talking about. How about you?
High ranking officers in his chain of command agreed with me. How about you?

Your answer reveals you were nowhere near as heroic as Kerry, who earned a Silver Star and a Bronze Star with Combat "V".

You are bitter though, I'll grant you that.

And no, I wasn't there.

 

[9thIDdoc]

None of what you have said changes the fact that the Feds. escalated the situation from peaceful talk to bloodshed for no very good reason.. In situations of this type what is decided in courts of law is not nearly as important as what is decided in the court of public opinion.

 

[Skylar]

None of what you have said changes the fact that the Feds. escalated the situation from peaceful talk to bloodshed for no very good reason.. In situations of this type what is decided in courts of law is not nearly as important as what is decided in the court of public opinion.

And by 'escalated', you mean executed lawful probable cause warrants for the arrest of 6 people?

You're literally complaining that law enforcement officers enforced the law. Lawfully.

Um, that's kind of why we pay them.

 

[jon_berzerk]

this will go down as a text book police manual alright

on how not to apprehend a subject

everything from the high speed chase

to the no outs road block

to the crossfire the cops conducted on themselves --LOL

a simple road spike would have done the trick

 

[jon_berzerk]

None of what you have said changes the fact that the Feds. escalated the situation from peaceful talk to bloodshed for no very good reason.. In situations of this type what is decided in courts of law is not nearly as important as what is decided in the court of public opinion.

looks like they wanted to make an example

 

[Skylar]

this will go down as a text book police manual alright

on how not to apprehend a subject

everything from the high speed chase

to the no outs road block

to the crossfire the cops conducted on themselves --LOL

a simple road spike would have done the trick

Says you, pretending you know what the fuck you're talking about.

Sorry, Jon. But we're way past you militia sympathists just making shit up. We're in the realm of the *actual* law now. And actual police work.

Not what you imagine. But tell us again how the police road block was 'illegal'. Its worth at least a giggle.