Assault weapons and large magazines ban upheld in New York and Conneticut

[Wry Catcher]

Gun Free Zones don't stop crazy guys from shooting people. Surely this will!

um, neither do non gun free zones. The only difference to this ^^^ echo of nonsense is that to have a gun in a gun free zone is a crime, having a gun in a non gun free zone is not necessarily so.

Some day ignoramus will stop using gun free zones as a bullet point, at least an ignoramus who has the intelligence of a normal human being.

 

[M14 Shooter]

No one is opposed to common sense gun laws: not gun stores, not gun manufacturers, and certainly not the NRA.

Perhaps the NRA members....BUT, the NRA does exactly what the gun manufacturers orders them to do.
Simply look at the NRA budget, and you too would agree.

Oh look - more mindless, bigoted lies.

 

[M14 Shooter]

If in fact these new laws occur as is stated above then a substantial number of guns which are presently owned by private citizens are banned. Because every revolver and every automatic pistol in existence is semi-automatic. There also are many semi-automatic hunting rifles and shotguns which in no way resemble so-called "assault" weapons.

For the benefit of those who simply don't know; a semi-automatic firearm is one which is loaded with a number of rounds and one round is fired each time the trigger is pulled. That describes all handguns and a substantial percentage of long guns.

Little by little, step by step, these sonsabitches will disarm every law-abiding American.

Its inevitable that threads such as this one will ELICIT a bunch of right wingers who will easily "teach" us all about guns because.......well because, theyhave no other means of conveying the size of their penises.

More mindless nonsense.
But then, that's the sum total of your capacity to argue the issue, so there's no surprise here.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Little by little, step by step, these sonsabitches will disarm every law-abiding American. We will be permitted to keep one single-shot .22 rifle chambered for short and bear it only to a federally supervised range in a locked case. Ammunition will be issued for each shooting session and must be expended then and there.

Well, YOU can always join a militia group....as the 2nd amendment actually intended.

Another mindless, unsupportable position.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Assault is an ACTION you moron NOT a weapon. Damn you are ignorant.

but what action does this ''assault" weapon achieve and who rightfully regulates its lawful purpose?

The assault is committed by a PERSON not a weapon.
Why regulate the weapon when the person is at fault?

Seriously? Where should a rational person draw the line? Surface to air missiles are okay but nuclear weapons are not? Or, are you okay with both the former "arm" and the latter "arm" in the possession and control of the average Joe or Josephine?

 

[M14 Shooter]

sure, the argument is so unsound that courts continue to rule in its favor.

Some of the RW loony laymen on here should just write the courts and tell them their opinion....
LIKE THE COURTS CARE WHAT THEY THINK!

None of this changes the fact that you fully understand there is no sound argument for the necessity and/or constitutionality of banning 'assault weapons'.

 

[M14 Shooter]

sure, the argument is so unsound that courts continue to rule in its favor.

Some of the RW loony laymen on here should just write the courts and tell them their opinion....
LIKE THE COURTS CARE WHAT THEY THINK!

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Kinder, gentler, compassionate liberalism at its best.

 

[M14 Shooter]

....the far right and the NRA battle using ignorance, lies, and fabrications.

Um... that's the purview of the anti-gun loon as proven by this (and about a zilliion other) thread.

 

[M14 Shooter]

As the manufacturing of assault weapons (whose only "purpose" is to kill as many people as possible in the shortest period of time)

This is, of course, still a lie.

In the 1930s, congress stopped the manufacturing of Thompson machine guns...

This is, still, another lie.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Assault is an ACTION you moron NOT a weapon. Damn you are ignorant.

but what action does this ''assault" weapon achieve and who rightfully regulates its lawful purpose?

The assault is committed by a PERSON not a weapon.
Why regulate the weapon when the person is at fault?

Seriously? Where should a rational person draw the line? Surface to air missiles are okay but nuclear weapons are not?

Straw, man.

 

[Dan Daly]

The Texas tower shooter used a bolt action but I forget how many he killed.

Whitman had a sawed-off 12 ga shotgun, a Remington 700 6mm bolt-action hunting rifle, a .35 caliber pump rifle, a .30 caliber carbine M1 (one of your alleged "assault weapons"), a 9mm Luger pistol, a Galesi-Brescia .25-caliber pistol, a Smith & Wesson M19 .357 Magnum revolver and over 700 rounds of ammunition. He also packed food, coffee, vitamins, Dexedrine, Excedrin, earplugs, jugs of water, matches, lighter fluid, rope, binoculars, a machete, three knives, a transistor radio, toilet paper, a razor and a bottle of deodorant.

He was also a Marine...and all Marines are trained to be basic riflemen. You see the damage one of us did when pushed over the edge...why do you folks insist on pushing tens of thousands of us towards insanity with your own insane attempts to infringe upon our inherent human rights? Might want to give that some thought.

He wasn't " pushed over the edge"--Whitman had a brain tumor.

The tumor was ruled as a non-factor by the coroner...till the Connolly commission decided it might, maybe, could have been a factor, but even they admitted there was no way to prove it. We also know that we was in possession of Dexedrine at the time of his death and that he had been prescribed other drugs in 65. He also had visited the university shrink who observed him to be "oozing with hostility". It was probably a combination of a lot of factors...the tumor, the drugs, people and events.

Lots of people have brain tumors...they don't all go over the edge and start killing people. If we could determine exactly what pushed people "over the edge" to murder, we might have a chance of preventing it. Can you tell us what drives people to cross that line?

 

[Dan Daly]

You posted this lie at least once before.

The NRA, which began as a grassroots organization dedicated to teaching marksmanship, entered the 2012 election season as a lobbying, merchandising and marketing machine that brings in more than $200 million a year and intends to help unseat the incumbent president. From 2004 to 2010, the group’s revenue from fundraising -- including gifts from gun makers who benefit from its political activism -- grew twice as fast as its income from members’ dues, according to NRA tax returns.

More than 50 firearms-related companies have given at least $14.8 million to the Fairfax, Virginia-based group, according to the NRA’s own list for a donor program that began in 2005. That same year, NRA lobbyists helped win passage of a federal law that limited liability claims against gun makers. Former NRA President Sandy Froman wrote that it “saved the American gun industry from bankruptcy.”

Something you may not know is that it's about impossible to join most shooting clubs unless you are an NRA member...and that is by NRA design. They, like the federal government, are really good at attaching strings to the money and perks they offer clubs and ranges.

I'm here discussing my right to keep and bear arms...I am not here to defend the NRA.

 

[LOki]

2) The NFA of 1938, while burdening ONLY law-abiding folks, did not keep any guns from any criminals.

Do you usually go to the bathroom, squat and after a few grimaces you come up with the above indisputable" set of facts??

You don't seem to be disputing it. You clearly don't like that reality, and you're willing to ridicule me for presenting it, but you're not disputing it. Are you, Pumpkin?

All you needed to do was show us some of the criminals who were prevented from obtaining a gun by the 1938 NFA, to bring my assertion into actual dispute.

Why couldn't you do that, Princess?

 

[LOki]

No one is opposed to common sense gun laws: not gun stores, not gun manufacturers, and certainly not the NRA.

Perhaps the NRA members....BUT, the NRA does exactly what the gun manufacturers orders them to do.
Simply look at the NRA budget, and you too would agree.

Not relevant... even if it were as true as you'd like us to believe.

No one is opposed to common sense gun laws: not gun stores, not gun manufacturers, and certainly not the NRA.

 

[Conservative65]

Or those who say we shouldn't own guns can come individually and try to take what they say we shouldn't own.

You gun nuts are sooooo damn :tough"....I am actually shaking in my flip-flops with fear....

It is always best for your ilk to stroke your guns for sexual gratification.

There's nothing to fear unless you're stupid enough to try.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Assault is an ACTION you moron NOT a weapon. Damn you are ignorant.

but what action does this ''assault" weapon achieve and who rightfully regulates its lawful purpose?

The assault is committed by a PERSON not a weapon.
Why regulate the weapon when the person is at fault?

Seriously? Where should a rational person draw the line? Surface to air missiles are okay but nuclear weapons are not?

Straw, man.

Gee, once again you prove your ignorance, and yours is not willful.

Straw Man is the name given to a logical fallacy.

Once again you've posted a series of single phrase/sentence ad hominems which you are not educated enough to understand.

Posting and writing that others are stupid is a short cut for those incapable of writing an expository rebuttal, and, BTW, for those who don't know you are one of the most dishonest persons on this messge board.

Nothing posted by M14 should be trusted, and very little of what the dirt bag posts can be found to be the whole truth. An example is his signature line which includes an out of context phrase, part of a longer post written by me, which he was not smart enough to comprehend.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Assault is an ACTION you moron NOT a weapon. Damn you are ignorant.

but what action does this ''assault" weapon achieve and who rightfully regulates its lawful purpose?

The assault is committed by a PERSON not a weapon.
Why regulate the weapon when the person is at fault?

Seriously? Where should a rational person draw the line? Surface to air missiles are okay but nuclear weapons are not?

Straw, man.

Gee, once again you prove your ignorance, and yours is not willful.
Straw Man is the name given to a logical fallacy.

Yes. That's what you posted.
No one is arguing that 'arms" includes anything other than firearms; you inclusion of SAMs and nukes into the argument is a straw man.

 

[Wry Catcher]

but what action does this ''assault" weapon achieve and who rightfully regulates its lawful purpose?

The assault is committed by a PERSON not a weapon.
Why regulate the weapon when the person is at fault?

Seriously? Where should a rational person draw the line? Surface to air missiles are okay but nuclear weapons are not?

Straw, man.

Gee, once again you prove your ignorance, and yours is not willful.
Straw Man is the name given to a logical fallacy.

Yes. That's what you posted.
No one is arguing that 'arms" includes anything other than firearms; you inclusion of SAMs and nukes into the argument is a straw man.

So, putting aside my admitted hyperbole, which type of firearm crosses the line, if in your opinion anyone does?

And, BTW, large magazines are not firearms, thus do you agree they are not protected by the 2nd A.?

Do try, though it is not your nature, to be honest and not hypocritical.

 

[Compost]

Gun Free Zones don't stop crazy guys from shooting people. Surely this will!

um, neither do non gun free zones. The only difference to this ^^^ echo of nonsense is that to have a gun in a gun free zone is a crime, having a gun in a non gun free zone is not necessarily so.

Some day ignoramus will stop using gun free zones as a bullet point, at least an ignoramus who has the intelligence of a normal human being.

Yes, and maybe some day knee jerkers will read a remark and actually process the meaning before they offer up a perfunctory insult.

 

[Dan Daly]

The assault is committed by a PERSON not a weapon.
Why regulate the weapon when the person is at fault?

Seriously? Where should a rational person draw the line? Surface to air missiles are okay but nuclear weapons are not?

Straw, man.

Gee, once again you prove your ignorance, and yours is not willful.
Straw Man is the name given to a logical fallacy.

Yes. That's what you posted.
No one is arguing that 'arms" includes anything other than firearms; you inclusion of SAMs and nukes into the argument is a straw man.

So, putting aside my admitted hyperbole, which type of firearm crosses the line, if in your opinion anyone does?

And, BTW, large magazines are not firearms, thus do you agree they are not protected by the 2nd A.?

Do try, though it is not your nature, to be honest and not hypocritical.

Read the NFA of 1934...as silly as it was, it did a fair job of setting your "reasonable" limits on what weapons law-abiding citizens can be trusted by their government to own without some kind of regulation. Granted, I don't subscribe to this notion that it is government's business...unless my actions prove I am unworthy, but I am just trying to help you not ask questions that highlight your ignorance of the subject.

As far as large magazines...if they are the standard magazines designed for that firearm, they are effectively as protected as the firearm...I think Heller agreed. That said, aftermarket magazines that differ from the OEM mags in form or function can probably be considered accessories and regulated as such.