Ashli Babbitt’s shooter is—Lieutenant Michael Leroy Byrd.

[bodecea]

No I'm not a moderator....I'm asking a question. You seem upset by me bringing it up. Why?

Because you, like RW, are a worthless troll and a human spambot, spending every waking moment trolling this forum. So, I reiterate:
PISS OFF.

Ok.....sorry to have upset you with my question.

 

[Faun]

Sorry bout that,

1. Let me interject the answer to all this debate.
2. This whole insurrection on Jan 6th never was.
3. First off they were invited in on Pelosi's orders.
4. Then one was selected to die.
5. All the while a coup was being orchestrated, with the stolen election verification.
6. The public in general never sees the big picture.
7. Opps there it is.
8. Glad to help.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Oh lord. Sometimes the craziness is just over the top.

It's pretty amazing watching that happen, isn't it? You have to wonder how weak their minds and their wills were to begin with to be so easily manipulated like that.

That explains how they were so easily brainwashed by Trump.

 

[Faun]

Sorry bout that,

1. Prove me wrong.
2. Waiting.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

LOL

How 'bout you prove yourself right?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

"premeditation"? Who premeditated Babbit's death? How does that work out?

The cops made plans to travel to DC and commit murder and mayhem.

Judge says records ID’ing Seattle officers who attended rally before Capitol riot can be released — but not yet

Judge Sandra Widlan's ruling Wednesday essentially means that the city can release records that identify the officers. However, a restraining order has been extended for seven days to give the officers time to appeal.

www.seattletimes.com

They were part of the mob

 

[Chillicothe]

Caveat: I didn't read every post in this thread. Hell, its' approaching 2,000 posts.

Still, I did graze through some of 'em.

I was most struck by the Bizarro Desk suggestion that Ashley Babbit was killed in a 'murder-for-hire' operation. (!!!. I love this bar.)

But, unfortunately, it's stuff like that which casts the whole Rightfield mindmeld into the realm of laughingstock comedy material. It disses responsible Conservatives who have rational and thoughtful perspectives. Their stock get depreciated by the output of the crazoids.
No disrespect intended.

But the real intent of my post is NOT to make fun of nutsto-crazo postings.
Rather, it is to offer a link to an investigative journalism source who did some tire-kicking on Ms Babbit's 'journey'.

Note to readers: I am a fan of the website 'BellingCat'. I find their stuff interesting in that satisfying mode of 'gotcha'-think. I've been reading them for a long time.

Anyway, BellingCat offers a unique perspective on Ms. Babbit.
AND importantly, offers many videos to illuminate their insights.

Here is their coverage, and some quick cut&pastes of a couple of their paragraphs.

The Journey of Ashli Babbitt - bellingcat
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"The crowd at the door to the Speaker’s Lobby vastly outnumbered the Capitol police and staff at the scene. Infowars footage showed the standoff that ensued, as some in the crowd chanted “break it down”, in reference to the door and makeshift barricade that had been erected behind it. This same footage shows Babbitt yelling at the officers guarding the door as members of the mob start to smash through them.

As the police officers and staff guarding the door were being escorted away, Babbitt pushed to the very front of the crowd and climbed through the smashed door into the Speaker’s Lobby. A single shot rang out and Babbitt fell to the floor. The shooting was captured in at least four different videos, compiled and synchronised in the video below"

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*Wicki on BellingCat: A British investigative journalism website that specializes in fact-checking and open-source intelligence

 

[Faun]

Sorry bout that,

1. Ya'll need to get a grip, those who found themselves in the Capital just waltzed right in, there was no struggle, not shots fired.
2. They calmly strolled right in, *prove me wrong*!
3. One was selected to get offed.
4. One was selected to fire the gun.
5. It was carefully planned.
6. Shooter was gifted in advance, a get out of prosecution card, a few hours before he pulled the trigger.
7. He strolled right out the back door of the Capital, and will never face charges for the murder he committed.
8. Commie Liberal Justice at work.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

LOLOL

Yeah, there was no struggle at all to get in.

Yeah, he's a loony.

Which righties here aren't?

 

[Faun]

Multiple investigations yada yada yada - no fraud.

The sort of "investigation" that Michael Leroy Byrd got his murder of Ashli Babbitt whitewashed by, no doubt.
What makes you think ANY of your investigations and studies by self serving politically affiliated leftist sources are
worth a God- Damned thing? Stop lying. Grow up.

Problem is....the investigations were done by YOUR rightists.

Now wipe the spittle off your chin.

Perhaps you need to stop lying and wipe the jizz off your mouth from sucking off Xi. Denigrating a veteran and condoning murder. Grow up. And stop lying.

So what that she served before becoming a traitor? So did Benedict Arnold.

A traitor for going through a broken window protesting our corrupt congress?

YOu are clueless.

She was part of an out if control mob attacking the seat if our government to prevent Congress from officially and constitutionally declaring Biden the winner of the 2020 election and next president of the United States. All prescribed by the Constitution and other related laws. If that's not traitorous, nothing is.

 

[Coyote]

Sorry bout that,

1. You people can't handle the truth, carry on with this rant, its entertaining as hell!
2. But I just told you all, all the truth.
3. Prove me wrong.
4. I saw video of them being waved in.
5. Come on in, step right this way, into the Capital Building.
6. Oh and all cops carry guns.
7. Why didn't they shoot those who first came


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Sorry dude. I'm not playing your game. You want us to answer all your questions but when we ask you questions (or to prove your assertions) you just ignore them.

You've offered no proof for your claims.

 

[Faun]

ow do you know their lives weren't being threatened?

The police?
Because they were armed and behind doors probably pissing themselves. And they
were in a bottleneck where no one could get to them.
Why would anyone be so stupid as to say the police were in danger? If they left their safe haven and wandered out where the crowds were perhaps you'd have a point. But as it was you have none at all.

How would the police know she had no weapon until after the fact?

She brandished no weapon because she had none. What made Michael Leroy Byrd think she was armed? He had ample time to observe she had no weapon before he shot her like a coward.

I guess he felt safer just executing her for good measure.

And what about the rest of the mob coming in behind her?

What mob?
There was no mob coming behind her. Ashli Babbitt herself was not entering the Capitol building
because she could not possibly do so.
How many people do you think could squeeze thrown a window with half a pane of safety glass in it?
Get bent, apologist for killers.

You're truly fucking crazy.

As Benedict Ashli was climbing trough that broken out window, other insurrectionists were busting through the doors with polls an helmets. Shooting her kept the rest out. That cop is a hero who saved lives.

That's bullshit. You must believe we haven't seen the video.

Fuckimg moron, what do you see that mob doing while Benedict Ashli gets shot if not trying to break through those doors?

We can see that clearly in the video-------------it was anti-fa members who broke out the plastic windows (PLASTIC!!) and then like they do with their very organized street riots--they quickly and quietly fled the scene separately.

You're truly fucked in the head. No Anifa member has been identified as breaking in that window.

What the fuck do you think Sullivan was really doing there....all summer long----we would see groups of anti-fa/blm encourage and lead attacks upon cities and buildings. Among the video arose a pattern...where usually around about 5 members of these groups would work as a well rehearsed group. ONe would film--such as sullivan...one would break window, one would encourage the crowds to enter the broken window, others would also play their parts-----but as each completed their obviously assigned job---they would quickly and quietly leave the scene---one right after another. We saw this at the capital as well when Ashli was shot.......Sullivan known anti fa filmed...other members of the group broke the window and then quietly fled, etc. EXACT same pattern----------People really rioting and breaking the windows---would crawl through themselves and stick around---but that isn't what we were seeing.

Sullivan is not Antifa.

Sullivan is antifa/blm/leftist terrorist----------yes he is.

Left-wing Activist Charged in Capitol Riot

Utah man who claimed he was in Washington as a journalist was filmed yelling "let's burn this s**t down" to crowd at Capitol.

www.newsweek.com

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, you have anything other than him denying he's Antifa or BLM?

"The entire time they're yelling, 'F**k Antifa! F**k, BLM.' I'm not saying I'm Antifa, by any means. But I definitely believe Black Lives Matter."​

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Lets stop the personal attacks and stick to the subject.

There was at least one more barricade between the lobby and the House, so when Ashli tried to go from the Senate to the lobby, in no way was she any possible threat to any congress people.

You can see it in the video of the shooter, in the House, sticking his arm through openings in the House barricade.
There is no way Ashli could have gotten into the House if she had succeeded in getting into the lobby.

There was zero reason to shoot her.
If Ashli was a threat to the House, then the cops outside the doors and windows Ashli was trying to get through, would have stopped her.
They were literally at arms length from her.
They were not at all concerned that she was going through the window.
There knew there were congress people in the building any more, and there were still more barricades between her and the House floor.

So, the Capitol police should have just kept retreating and retreating and retreating? And the insurrectionists should have been allowed to destroy and pass barricade after barricade after barricade? When do you suggest this should have stopped?

At any point the police could have just started handcuffing and arresting for trespassing.
There was never any indication that they would have had any problem arresting any or all if they wanted to.
I do not know why they did not?
Police normally do arrest hundreds of people at a time.
It happened at Washington DC dozens of time.
During the Vietnam protests in DC, I was arrested along with thousands of others, many times.
There was never any justification for shooting.

Oh my gosh! They let them LEAVE! They didn't even bother arresting them after they had assaulted more than 100 police officers. That alone is kind of crazy but you're crying about one casualty who could have opted to take another course of action but instead for some reason didn't think that having multiple police officers pointing their firearms at her meant she might get shot?

That is beyond stupid and it would appear by what is posted just here on this message board that what you all are REALLY upset about is that a black policeman, who one poster called "a big black brute" killed a white woman, one who knew better due to her being a veteran whose job was to protect military bases and whose former unit was called upon that day to help security the Capitol.

Their first duty was to protect and secure their charges (the people they were protecting). There is nothing legally or ethically that requires them to give any concern to the people presenting the threat to those they are protecting or themselves as a matter of fact.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

...
And the consequence for Ashli Targetpractice was earning the first Darwin award for 2021.

I think we all can agree it was foolish for Ashli to go through the window after everyone else saw the cop pointing the gun, and everyone was yelling about how there was a gun being pointed.

But that does not negate the fact the cop committed murder since Ashlie was not a lethal threat to anyone.
The video clearly shows that the cop who shot was sticking his arm through a very dense barricade.

You can talk about where people were, the last steps they took, and what direction they happened to turn their heads at the time they were murdered, but that does not negate the premeditation, planning, and set-up for the murders -- including extensive travel plans and itineraries -- that took place leading up to the events of January 6.

"premeditation"? Who premeditated Babbit's death? How does that work out?

Cops were standing right next to Ashli as she attempted to climb through the window, and they felt no urgent need to arrest her. She could easily have been arrested at amy time. Therefore there was no valid reason to shoot her.

So you're saying the mob would have just stood by and allowed those remaining officers whom they hadn't beaten into submission or retreat to arrest Ashli?

 

[otto105]

Stunning!

We've been asking this question for a awhile now.

The Biden admin has already decided not to press charges against the Capital policeman who killed her.

Correct decision.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

What does the OP believe should be done to the Officer that killed the woman?

Will she be happy if a mob went to his home and killed him while burning his home down and killing his family, and if so why doesn’t the OP do it herself?

Does she want him to face a court and be found not guilty so she and those like her can act like savages or like BLM members and burn down their neighborhood?

What does the OP believe should be done to the Officer and I already know she will change the subject about me, so let me say it clearly had the woman not done what she did she would still be alive, ya know like that kid in the Chicago that got shot and killed that the far left think was not justified but fails to see the kid made a mistake that cost him his life like that woman did in D.C. !

So OP what is it you like to see and please tell the board in full detail and when it does not happen are you going to take up arms and go for justice and if not then why not?

I am so sick of the keyboard Warriors on this board that type daily how they want Revolution while never one moment getting out and start the fight!

So again what do you really want or are you just playing a game to get the responses you want to make you happy with poor quality bait?

Amen! This American patriot is already in hiding, and evil threads like this just put him and his family in further danger. This may be the most disgusting thread I've ever seen on USMB. And it was started by a mod. This thread "may not" be against the rules - but it sure as hell is against human decency to put this man and his family in further danger from the Trump terrorists.

Well if the posters on this board truly want justice and revolution then why are they on here and not taking to the streets?

Because we are intelligent--maybe many of us are waiting for the RIGHT moment just not any moment when it would still do no good.

"Because we are intelligent"......

Of course they are and ten years from now the same individuals crying over the death of the woman will proclaim she was traitor because their next hero told them so...

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Regardless of her size, Ashli was the first one through the window making her an immediate threat.
Nobody followed because a message was sent

So there was no "charge through the window"? I wish all your lies were so easy to debunk.
And how about retracting your second lie.
Ashli Babbitt never made it through that window. New videos capture fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt during Capitol siege

She was in the process of climbing through when she was shot. Now you are just arguing semantics.

Doesn't matter.
It would have been just as easy to handcuff her as to shoot her.
So there was no need to shoot.
Shooting is only legal in self defense from a deadly threat.
That did not exist, so then shooting was not legal.

Does this help?

​

What is my right to self-defense against multiple attackers? - Westfall Sellers Attorneys​

“’W]hen … an attack is being conducted by multiple people as a group, a defendant is justified in using force against any member of the group, even if the recipient of that force is not engaging in conduct that would, by itself, justify the use of force (or deadly force as the case may be).””)​

​

​

 

[justinacolmena]

So you're saying the mob would have just stood by and allowed those remaining officers whom they hadn't beaten into submission or retreat to arrest Ashli?

You're telling us there are officers out there slapping handcuffs on us and hauling us away in the back seat of a police car when they they have not been beaten and flogged into submission to the law themselves?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Those cops were told if they interfered they who be beaten up or killed...

I almost hate to keep saying it over and over again, but it's not the cops' job to get involved in street fighting or hand-to-hand combat.

They were woefully outnumbered, if they arrested her they were putting themselves in untold danger...

It's not the cops' job either to constitute an overwhelming presence of firepower.

The officer followed his training. To handcuff her was to leave his position and put himself and the people he was protecting in danger...

Ashli was unarmed and presented no threat to that damned cop and his loved ones. He had no reason or justification to draw his weapon in cold blood and murder an unarmed woman who had no expectation that she would encounter such treason by her own countrymen.

60 Minutes is presently airing a segment on the January 6th attack on the Capitol with specific mention of the Oath Keepers and their military/law enforcement background.

 

[bodecea]

Those cops were told if they interfered they who be beaten up or killed...

I almost hate to keep saying it over and over again, but it's not the cops' job to get involved in street fighting or hand-to-hand combat.

They were woefully outnumbered, if they arrested her they were putting themselves in untold danger...

It's not the cops' job either to constitute an overwhelming presence of firepower.

The officer followed his training. To handcuff her was to leave his position and put himself and the people he was protecting in danger...

Ashli was unarmed and presented no threat to that damned cop and his loved ones. He had no reason or justification to draw his weapon in cold blood and murder an unarmed woman who had no expectation that she would encounter such treason by her own countrymen.

60 Minutes is presently airing a segment on the January 6th attack on the Capitol with specific mention of the Oath Keepers and their military/law enforcement background.

I heard one of their leaders has rolled on them.

 

[lantern2814]

Regardless of her size, Ashli was the first one through the window making her an immediate threat.
Nobody followed because a message was sent

So there was no "charge through the window"? I wish all your lies were so easy to debunk.
And how about retracting your second lie.
Ashli Babbitt never made it through that window. New videos capture fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt during Capitol siege

She was in the process of climbing through when she was shot. Now you are just arguing semantics.

Doesn't matter.
It would have been just as easy to handcuff her as to shoot her.
So there was no need to shoot.
Shooting is only legal in self defense from a deadly threat.
That did not exist, so then shooting was not legal.

They assaulted other officers and one officer was killed... This was a large mob, she was warned...

He could handcuffed her and not be grabbed by the crowd... He is trained to stay a safe distance away...

The officer was not killed, NAZI. He died of natural causes. Hundreds of police officers were assaulted in Portland and Seattle.

He did not die of natural causes. It's amazing how much orange cultists are willing to lie and delude themselves.

Per the family and the medical examiner it was natural causes. Lying comes naturally to you. Where's your fire extinguisher proof? Nowhere.

Cause of death has not yet been released.

Regardless of her size, Ashli was the first one through the window making her an immediate threat.
Nobody followed because a message was sent

So there was no "charge through the window"? I wish all your lies were so easy to debunk.
And how about retracting your second lie.
Ashli Babbitt never made it through that window. New videos capture fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt during Capitol siege

She was in the process of climbing through when she was shot. Now you are just arguing semantics.

Doesn't matter.
It would have been just as easy to handcuff her as to shoot her.
So there was no need to shoot.
Shooting is only legal in self defense from a deadly threat.
That did not exist, so then shooting was not legal.

They assaulted other officers and one officer was killed... This was a large mob, she was warned...

He could handcuffed her and not be grabbed by the crowd... He is trained to stay a safe distance away...

The officer was not killed, NAZI. He died of natural causes. Hundreds of police officers were assaulted in Portland and Seattle.

He did not die of natural causes. It's amazing how much orange cultists are willing to lie and delude themselves.

Per the family and the medical examiner it was natural causes. Lying comes naturally to you. Where's your fire extinguisher proof? Nowhere.

Link to the family and medical examiner saying what you claim, please.

www.dailymail.co.uk
Mom of US Capitol police officer Brian Sicknick believes he ...

Enjoy your crow. And share it with Coyote.

 

[Turtlesoup]

ow do you know their lives weren't being threatened?

The police?
Because they were armed and behind doors probably pissing themselves. And they
were in a bottleneck where no one could get to them.
Why would anyone be so stupid as to say the police were in danger? If they left their safe haven and wandered out where the crowds were perhaps you'd have a point. But as it was you have none at all.

How would the police know she had no weapon until after the fact?

She brandished no weapon because she had none. What made Michael Leroy Byrd think she was armed? He had ample time to observe she had no weapon before he shot her like a coward.

I guess he felt safer just executing her for good measure.

And what about the rest of the mob coming in behind her?

What mob?
There was no mob coming behind her. Ashli Babbitt herself was not entering the Capitol building
because she could not possibly do so.
How many people do you think could squeeze thrown a window with half a pane of safety glass in it?
Get bent, apologist for killers.

You're truly fucking crazy.

As Benedict Ashli was climbing trough that broken out window, other insurrectionists were busting through the doors with polls an helmets. Shooting her kept the rest out. That cop is a hero who saved lives.

That's bullshit. You must believe we haven't seen the video.

Fuckimg moron, what do you see that mob doing while Benedict Ashli gets shot if not trying to break through those doors?

We can see that clearly in the video-------------it was anti-fa members who broke out the plastic windows (PLASTIC!!) and then like they do with their very organized street riots--they quickly and quietly fled the scene separately.

You're truly fucked in the head. No Anifa member has been identified as breaking in that window.

What the fuck do you think Sullivan was really doing there....all summer long----we would see groups of anti-fa/blm encourage and lead attacks upon cities and buildings. Among the video arose a pattern...where usually around about 5 members of these groups would work as a well rehearsed group. ONe would film--such as sullivan...one would break window, one would encourage the crowds to enter the broken window, others would also play their parts-----but as each completed their obviously assigned job---they would quickly and quietly leave the scene---one right after another. We saw this at the capital as well when Ashli was shot.......Sullivan known anti fa filmed...other members of the group broke the window and then quietly fled, etc. EXACT same pattern----------People really rioting and breaking the windows---would crawl through themselves and stick around---but that isn't what we were seeing.

Sullivan is not Antifa.

Sullivan is antifa----------yes he is.

And you are against antifa? Just askin'

Of course-------Anti-FA are the fascist terrorists themselves. Want to try to spin some more..

 

[bodecea]

Regardless of her size, Ashli was the first one through the window making her an immediate threat.
Nobody followed because a message was sent

So there was no "charge through the window"? I wish all your lies were so easy to debunk.
And how about retracting your second lie.
Ashli Babbitt never made it through that window. New videos capture fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt during Capitol siege

She was in the process of climbing through when she was shot. Now you are just arguing semantics.

Doesn't matter.
It would have been just as easy to handcuff her as to shoot her.
So there was no need to shoot.
Shooting is only legal in self defense from a deadly threat.
That did not exist, so then shooting was not legal.

They assaulted other officers and one officer was killed... This was a large mob, she was warned...

He could handcuffed her and not be grabbed by the crowd... He is trained to stay a safe distance away...

The officer was not killed, NAZI. He died of natural causes. Hundreds of police officers were assaulted in Portland and Seattle.

He did not die of natural causes. It's amazing how much orange cultists are willing to lie and delude themselves.

Per the family and the medical examiner it was natural causes. Lying comes naturally to you. Where's your fire extinguisher proof? Nowhere.

Cause of death has not yet been released.

Regardless of her size, Ashli was the first one through the window making her an immediate threat.
Nobody followed because a message was sent

So there was no "charge through the window"? I wish all your lies were so easy to debunk.
And how about retracting your second lie.
Ashli Babbitt never made it through that window. New videos capture fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt during Capitol siege

She was in the process of climbing through when she was shot. Now you are just arguing semantics.

Doesn't matter.
It would have been just as easy to handcuff her as to shoot her.
So there was no need to shoot.
Shooting is only legal in self defense from a deadly threat.
That did not exist, so then shooting was not legal.

They assaulted other officers and one officer was killed... This was a large mob, she was warned...

He could handcuffed her and not be grabbed by the crowd... He is trained to stay a safe distance away...

The officer was not killed, NAZI. He died of natural causes. Hundreds of police officers were assaulted in Portland and Seattle.

He did not die of natural causes. It's amazing how much orange cultists are willing to lie and delude themselves.

Per the family and the medical examiner it was natural causes. Lying comes naturally to you. Where's your fire extinguisher proof? Nowhere.

Link to the family and medical examiner saying what you claim, please.

www.dailymail.co.uk
Mom of US Capitol police officer Brian Sicknick believes he ...

Enjoy your crow. And share it with Coyote.

"The Daily Mail"? Why not link The National Enquirer?