As Trump Cuts Science Budgets, Researchers Look Abroad. This Will Be The Death Knell Of The U.S. Economy.

[Dr. Phosphorous]

This will be the death knell of the most prosperous economy in the history of the world. Scientific innovation and the world's best and brightest studying at American universities is one of the biggest reasons for this country's economic prosperity. Trump is destroying all of this.

Scientists are not going to continue to work in this country under Trump's hostile regime that does not value education and scientific research. It's that simple.

From the Washington Post --

Kartik Sheth, 53, is an astrophysicist and, until a few weeks ago, was the associate chief scientist at NASA. On March 10, he got an unexpected email: “I regret to inform you that you are being affected by a [reduction-in-force] action. … Therefore, you will be separated from NASA at the close of business on April 10, 2025.”

One of 23 NASA employees laid off that day, including everyone in the Office of the Chief Scientist, Sheth is now looking for a job — anywhere. On Friday, he arrived in Paris to attend a conference and check out the environment for scientific research.

“I don’t know if I’ll find a job in America given the cuts to science,” he said. “I think we could have a pretty major brain drain in the country. … I think people are going to start to wonder if this is the place for me to continue to do science.’”

With billions of dollars in research grants eliminated or frozen by the Trump administration, scientists across America in a broad array of fields face an uncertain future and the possibility of layoffs. An untold number like Sheth are looking abroad, thinking of continuing their careers far from the turmoil here.

While it’s unclear how many will actually make the move, American scientists are being actively recruited by countries including France, Spain, Germany and China that are hoping to reverse the flow of expertise into the United States that has been the norm for decades.

“People who were certain that they were going to spend their careers in the U.S., and stay in the U.S. for the next phase, are now totally reconsidering,” said David Baker, a biochemist at the University of Washington who shared the Nobel Prize in chemistry in 2024.

The United States now faces a “wholesale change in mentality” across the science community as a result of President Donald Trump’s actions, he said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2025/05/21/brain-drain-science-cuts-jobs-trump/

 

[konradv]

This will be the death knell of the most prosperous economy in the history of the world. Scientific innovation and the world's best and brightest studying at American universities is one of the biggest reasons for this country's economic prosperity. Trump is destroying all of this.

Scientists are not going to continue to work in this country under Trump's hostile regime that does not value education and scientific research. It's that simple.

From the Washington Post --

Kartik Sheth, 53, is an astrophysicist and, until a few weeks ago, was the associate chief scientist at NASA. On March 10, he got an unexpected email: “I regret to inform you that you are being affected by a [reduction-in-force] action. … Therefore, you will be separated from NASA at the close of business on April 10, 2025.”

One of 23 NASA employees laid off that day, including everyone in the Office of the Chief Scientist, Sheth is now looking for a job — anywhere. On Friday, he arrived in Paris to attend a conference and check out the environment for scientific research.

“I don’t know if I’ll find a job in America given the cuts to science,” he said. “I think we could have a pretty major brain drain in the country. … I think people are going to start to wonder if this is the place for me to continue to do science.’”

With billions of dollars in research grants eliminated or frozen by the Trump administration, scientists across America in a broad array of fields face an uncertain future and the possibility of layoffs. An untold number like Sheth are looking abroad, thinking of continuing their careers far from the turmoil here.

While it’s unclear how many will actually make the move, American scientists are being actively recruited by countries including France, Spain, Germany and China that are hoping to reverse the flow of expertise into the United States that has been the norm for decades.

“People who were certain that they were going to spend their careers in the U.S., and stay in the U.S. for the next phase, are now totally reconsidering,” said David Baker, a biochemist at the University of Washington who shared the Nobel Prize in chemistry in 2024.

The United States now faces a “wholesale change in mentality” across the science community as a result of President Donald Trump’s actions, he said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2025/05/21/brain-drain-science-cuts-jobs-trump/

American exceptionalism is being deported!

 

[Mac1958]

This will be the death knell of the most prosperous economy in the history of the world. Scientific innovation and the world's best and brightest studying at American universities is one of the biggest reasons for this country's economic prosperity. Trump is destroying all of this.

There are always brain drains from authoritarian situations. Always.

Keep the pliable and manipulable, attack and repel those who might hold you accountable.

That's the template.

 

[Mac-7]

This will be the death knell of the most prosperous economy in the history of the world. Scientific innovation and the world's best and brightest studying at American universities is one of the biggest reasons for this country's economic prosperity. Trump is destroying all of this.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2025/05/21/brain-drain-science-cuts-jobs-trump/

I share your concern for the consequences of firing scientists

There is no easy answer to this question

For instance do you support our ever increasing budget deficit?

Isnt our fiscal future just as important as science?

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

I share your concern for the consequences of firing scientists

There is no easy answer to this question

There is an easy answer -- Trump can stop being a raging asshole.

But that's the problem with mentally ill sociopaths....they can't stop being raging assholes.

For instance do you support our ever increasing budget deficit?

Isnt our fiscal future just as important as science?

And what the **** is Trump doing to address the budget deficit?? More massive tax cuts for the rich???

Trump new disastrous "Big, Beautiful Bill" will add $3 trillion to the national debt over the next 10 years.

 

[j-mac]

This will be the death knell of the most prosperous economy in the history of the world. Scientific innovation and the world's best and brightest studying at American universities is one of the biggest reasons for this country's economic prosperity. Trump is destroying all of this.

Scientists are not going to continue to work in this country under Trump's hostile regime that does not value education and scientific research. It's that simple.

From the Washington Post --

Kartik Sheth, 53, is an astrophysicist and, until a few weeks ago, was the associate chief scientist at NASA. On March 10, he got an unexpected email: “I regret to inform you that you are being affected by a [reduction-in-force] action. … Therefore, you will be separated from NASA at the close of business on April 10, 2025.”

One of 23 NASA employees laid off that day, including everyone in the Office of the Chief Scientist, Sheth is now looking for a job — anywhere. On Friday, he arrived in Paris to attend a conference and check out the environment for scientific research.

“I don’t know if I’ll find a job in America given the cuts to science,” he said. “I think we could have a pretty major brain drain in the country. … I think people are going to start to wonder if this is the place for me to continue to do science.’”

With billions of dollars in research grants eliminated or frozen by the Trump administration, scientists across America in a broad array of fields face an uncertain future and the possibility of layoffs. An untold number like Sheth are looking abroad, thinking of continuing their careers far from the turmoil here.

While it’s unclear how many will actually make the move, American scientists are being actively recruited by countries including France, Spain, Germany and China that are hoping to reverse the flow of expertise into the United States that has been the norm for decades.

“People who were certain that they were going to spend their careers in the U.S., and stay in the U.S. for the next phase, are now totally reconsidering,” said David Baker, a biochemist at the University of Washington who shared the Nobel Prize in chemistry in 2024.

The United States now faces a “wholesale change in mentality” across the science community as a result of President Donald Trump’s actions, he said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2025/05/21/brain-drain-science-cuts-jobs-trump/

Chicken little, alive and well...

 

[Mac-7]

There is an easy answer -- Trump can stop being a raging asshole.

But that's the problem with mentally ill sociopaths....they can't stop being raging assholes.


And what the **** is Trump doing to address the budget deficit?? More massive tax cuts for the rich???

Trump new disastrous "Big, Beautiful Bill" will add $3 trillion to the national debt over the next 10 years.

Trump clearly understands that raising taxes will not prevent the government from going bankrupt

Only controls on spending can do that

Lower taxes - within reason - stimulate the economy and tax revenue stays the same or goes up

 

[Manonthestreet]

Yeah cause the govt does all the science derp derp derp. NASA can't even build a rocket anymore.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Yeah cause the govt does all the science derp derp derp. NASA can't even build a rocket anymore.

The government provides billions of dollars in funding for scientific research....and Trump is ending all of it. Where do you think scientific innovation comes from?

You've obviously got nothing but your usual inept MAGA trolling.

 

[Hellokitty]

This will be the death knell of the most prosperous economy in the history of the world. Scientific innovation and the world's best and brightest studying at American universities is one of the biggest reasons for this country's economic prosperity. Trump is destroying all of this.

Scientists are not going to continue to work in this country under Trump's hostile regime that does not value education and scientific research. It's that simple.

From the Washington Post --

Kartik Sheth, 53, is an astrophysicist and, until a few weeks ago, was the associate chief scientist at NASA. On March 10, he got an unexpected email: “I regret to inform you that you are being affected by a [reduction-in-force] action. … Therefore, you will be separated from NASA at the close of business on April 10, 2025.”

One of 23 NASA employees laid off that day, including everyone in the Office of the Chief Scientist, Sheth is now looking for a job — anywhere. On Friday, he arrived in Paris to attend a conference and check out the environment for scientific research.

“I don’t know if I’ll find a job in America given the cuts to science,” he said. “I think we could have a pretty major brain drain in the country. … I think people are going to start to wonder if this is the place for me to continue to do science.’”

With billions of dollars in research grants eliminated or frozen by the Trump administration, scientists across America in a broad array of fields face an uncertain future and the possibility of layoffs. An untold number like Sheth are looking abroad, thinking of continuing their careers far from the turmoil here.

While it’s unclear how many will actually make the move, American scientists are being actively recruited by countries including France, Spain, Germany and China that are hoping to reverse the flow of expertise into the United States that has been the norm for decades.

“People who were certain that they were going to spend their careers in the U.S., and stay in the U.S. for the next phase, are now totally reconsidering,” said David Baker, a biochemist at the University of Washington who shared the Nobel Prize in chemistry in 2024.

The United States now faces a “wholesale change in mentality” across the science community as a result of President Donald Trump’s actions, he said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2025/05/21/brain-drain-science-cuts-jobs-trump/

Boo f-ing ho. This guy just upset his easy grift of funneling taxpayer money to his nonprofit is over.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Boo f-ing ho. This guy just upset his easy grift of funneling taxpayer money to his nonprofit is over.

Do you agree with Trump freezing funding for scientific research?

Answer the question and quit trolling....or you will be reported.

 

[struth]

This will be the death knell of the most prosperous economy in the history of the world. Scientific innovation and the world's best and brightest studying at American universities is one of the biggest reasons for this country's economic prosperity. Trump is destroying all of this.

Scientists are not going to continue to work in this country under Trump's hostile regime that does not value education and scientific research. It's that simple.

From the Washington Post --

Kartik Sheth, 53, is an astrophysicist and, until a few weeks ago, was the associate chief scientist at NASA. On March 10, he got an unexpected email: “I regret to inform you that you are being affected by a [reduction-in-force] action. … Therefore, you will be separated from NASA at the close of business on April 10, 2025.”

One of 23 NASA employees laid off that day, including everyone in the Office of the Chief Scientist, Sheth is now looking for a job — anywhere. On Friday, he arrived in Paris to attend a conference and check out the environment for scientific research.

“I don’t know if I’ll find a job in America given the cuts to science,” he said. “I think we could have a pretty major brain drain in the country. … I think people are going to start to wonder if this is the place for me to continue to do science.’”

With billions of dollars in research grants eliminated or frozen by the Trump administration, scientists across America in a broad array of fields face an uncertain future and the possibility of layoffs. An untold number like Sheth are looking abroad, thinking of continuing their careers far from the turmoil here.

While it’s unclear how many will actually make the move, American scientists are being actively recruited by countries including France, Spain, Germany and China that are hoping to reverse the flow of expertise into the United States that has been the norm for decades.

“People who were certain that they were going to spend their careers in the U.S., and stay in the U.S. for the next phase, are now totally reconsidering,” said David Baker, a biochemist at the University of Washington who shared the Nobel Prize in chemistry in 2024.

The United States now faces a “wholesale change in mentality” across the science community as a result of President Donald Trump’s actions, he said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2025/05/21/brain-drain-science-cuts-jobs-trump/

Wow he got laid off from the govt and might actually have to get a job in the private sector? Wait, he can’t? So they are going to go work for a foreign govt? Haha

Take them

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Wow he got laid off from the govt and might actually have to get a job in the private sector? Wait, he can’t? So they are going to go work for a foreign govt? Haha

Take them

Do you agree with Trump freezing Federal funding for scientific research?

Answer the question and quit trolling....or you will be reported.

 

[struth]

Do you agree with Trump freezing Federal funding for scientific research?

Answer the question and quit trolling....or you will be reported.

I agree with cutting spending yes

What part of that don’t you get?

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

France, Germany, and England will be welcoming these American scientists to their countries. If the Nazi Trump won't fund scientific research, these countries will. --

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen unveiled a fund of 500 million euros ($560 million) aimed at making the European Union a “magnet for researchers.” French President Emmanuel Macron — who has been making a hard push for global talent to “choose France” — pledged an additional 100 million euros ($112 million) to help researchers settle in France.

Macron has done this before: In 2017, on the same day the first Trump administration said it was pulling out of the Paris climate accord, Macron launched a “Make Our Planet Great Again” initiative, inviting foreign researchers to live and work in France. This year’s cohort of 60 fellows, who receive monthly stipends and relocation support, will begin their program in September.
In Germany, Cornelia Woll, president of the Hertie School, a private social sciences university, was one of eight scholars behind a recent open letter urging the country’s leaders — through a proposed program aimed at international academics — to “give America’s top researchers a new home!”

Woll said she has asked American colleagues, “What can we do for you?”
“The only answer I’ve gotten is: ‘Keep a job open for us in case we lose our fight,’” she said.

Britain’s Labour Party government is expected to soon announce plans to spend 50 million pounds ($66 million) to attract and relocate about 10 teams of international researchers, according to an official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly.

Martin McKee, a professor of European public health at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, said he was “hearing from colleagues that even quite senior professors at American universities are now applying for more junior posts.”

The interest isn’t only from scientists. The head of a humanities department at a British university said a recent job posting drew “more than usual” interest from American academics — including those already on the tenure track.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2025/05/21/brain-drain-science-cuts-jobs-trump/

 

[Manonthestreet]

The government provides billions of dollars in funding for scientific research....and Trump is ending all of it. Where do you think scientific innovation comes from?

You've obviously got nothing but your usual inept MAGA trolling.

Oh I don't know where did Musk get his.......

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

I agree with cutting spending yes

What part of that don’t you get?

You need scientific innovation to continue to grow the economy. How do you think this country became so prosperous??

What a know-nothing rube you are.

 

[struth]

France, Germany, and England will be welcoming these American scientists to their countries. If the Nazi Trump won't fund scientific research, these countries will. --

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen unveiled a fund of 500 million euros ($560 million) aimed at making the European Union a “magnet for researchers.” French President Emmanuel Macron — who has been making a hard push for global talent to “choose France” — pledged an additional 100 million euros ($112 million) to help researchers settle in France.

Macron has done this before: In 2017, on the same day the first Trump administration said it was pulling out of the Paris climate accord, Macron launched a “Make Our Planet Great Again” initiative, inviting foreign researchers to live and work in France. This year’s cohort of 60 fellows, who receive monthly stipends and relocation support, will begin their program in September.
In Germany, Cornelia Woll, president of the Hertie School, a private social sciences university, was one of eight scholars behind a recent open letter urging the country’s leaders — through a proposed program aimed at international academics — to “give America’s top researchers a new home!”

Woll said she has asked American colleagues, “What can we do for you?”
“The only answer I’ve gotten is: ‘Keep a job open for us in case we lose our fight,’” she said.

Britain’s Labour Party government is expected to soon announce plans to spend 50 million pounds ($66 million) to attract and relocate about 10 teams of international researchers, according to an official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly.

Martin McKee, a professor of European public health at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, said he was “hearing from colleagues that even quite senior professors at American universities are now applying for more junior posts.”

The interest isn’t only from scientists. The head of a humanities department at a British university said a recent job posting drew “more than usual” interest from American academics — including those already on the tenure track.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2025/05/21/brain-drain-science-cuts-jobs-trump/

Cool, if they can’t hack it getting a job in the real world, go work for a foreign govt

We don’t need second rate scientist here

 

[Hellokitty]

Do you agree with Trump freezing funding for scientific research?

Answer the question and quit trolling....or you will be reported.

Yes. Countless government employees like Sheth setting up nonprofits and then funneling taxpayer money for research with no accountability needs to end.

 

[struth]

You need scientific innovation to continue to grow the economy. How do you think this country became so prosperous??

What a know-nothing rube you are.

Yep and we have plenty…DuPont, merek, Johnson and Johnson are all hiring

Edison didn’t work for the govt