As an intellectual exercise I posit the following question.

[Billiejeens]

I stated procedural fact, idiot. I did social work for 30 years. These children just don't walk into school, decide to get a sex change, and the nurse does the surgery. I don't have any master's white ---. But you do. Trump.


No, I am not.

That's not what I said white ---.

IM2 said:
and due process is the motherfucking constitutional right everybody here has, whether they are legal or not. If illegals are not bound by that law, they aren't bound by any other; therefore, they aren't illegal.

Learn how to read Jethro.


My intellectual capacity is obviously far higher than yours, which is why I know what I said is correct.



What I said was extreme right is what most Americans understand to be the extreme right. Nody voted for Project 2025, but you dumb MAGAT bitches and none of you are normal.


The non-voters are American citizens, so they will be discussed, and you will understand that 9 million more people didn't vote for Trump than did. That is something you and the other MAGTS are not counting when you talk your shit, and you fail to see the overall displeasure the majority of Americans are expressing in regards to your right-wing extremist agenda.


And here you show the people that you have a mental health problem. Unlles Trump gets republican states to pull some serious shenanigans, it's more than likely you guys are going to get a reality check next November. So enjoy your little circus while you can white.......

Ok

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[struth]

Fake WSJ articles? The thing about your Dear Leader is when he alleges reporting is fake it means it's spot on.

Haha yeah that’s why cbs had to pay him millions

 

[berg80]

It's about prosecuting the very vermin that caused millions of deaths, through a pandemic created and released by the fuacci

What a fantastical world you live in.

 

[berg80]

If someone other than the president in essence forged his signature, we have a problem,

Good thing that didn't happen.

And now back to the subject of the thread.

FBI agents assigned earlier this year to review investigative files in the criminal case against notorious sex offender Jeffrey Epstein were instructed to “flag” any documents that mentioned President Donald Trump, Sen. Richard Durbin said Friday.

Durbin’s claim came in letters the Illinois Democrat sent to the Justice Department and FBI asking them to explain discrepancies between past statements about a promised release of the Epstein files and findings from a July 7 Justice Department memo, which said no such release would happen.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/18/trump-epstein-fbi-durbin.html

Thoughts?

 

[berg80]

Do YOU understand that your question in the OP was to get people talking about a nothingburger that's rooted in your fixation with Trump?

It was purely hypothetical and its purpose was solely to put Trump supporters on the defensive over an allegation or indictment that hasn't been officially made. And if one does not come right out and say they will condemn Trump then you can summarily condemn them over your own imagined hypothetical scenario that never happened.

It's a ******* joke.

Thank you for answering my original query. Clearly you wouldn't hold it against trump if he raped a 15 year old any more than you did over what he did to E. Jean Carroll.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Trump, facing MAGA uproar over Epstein files, tries to shift blame elsewhere​

Why unsealing Epstein grand jury records could be a long process

Facing uproar among his MAGA base over the Jeffrey Epstein files, President Donald Trump is trying to deflect blame to others.

abcnews.go.com

For the sake of discussion let's say trump is waste deep in the Epstein scandal. Let's say evidence emerges he is withholding the files because he is implicated in a sex trafficking crime.

What indication is there that his followers will care after ignoring 26 credible accusations of sexual abuse?

You lost me at claiming to be an intellectual

 

[22lcidw]

Kids who CHOOSE to transition do so after extensive medical and psychological examinations done with the parents. So VAnce can't stop a child from choosing that. There was no such border bill that did what you said, and due process is the motherfucing constitutional right everybody here has, whether they are legal or not. If illegals are not bound by that law, they aren't bound by any other; therefore, they aren't illegal. There has been no president who has dealt with other nations to create a disadvantage for America, and if you think that trying to bully other nations with threats of tariffs and military action is negotiating in the best interest of America, you are a fool.

As for your last paragraph, you motherfuckers run and govern on the extreme right, so shut the **** up about what your dumb extremist ass thinks Democrats will do. Any Democrat trying to pander to the right is a loser. Gavin Newsom is an example of a person making a loud noise right now, but he will probably not be the Democratic nominee.

You right-wingers are blowing a whole lot of hot air, given the fact that you have a losing record in this century and you are probably about to lose the midterms, and Trump very well may not make it 4 years. JD Vance will not be present because he will carry the stench of Trump, and any other Republican trying to run can't win because they refused t stand up to Trump. You idiots think America is with you when 9 million more people DID NOT VOTE THAN VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP!


Most of America sees what the many things he's ******* up are. So you might need to get out of that right-wing echo chamber and look at reality.

Children who do this are affected by other factors also. Genetic is one thing that needs to be explored. Other children or adults can torture kids. However, that does not mean they are gay and/or someone who needs to transition in sexuality. In common sense, you do not spend ten percent on something that costs one percent to perpetuality. And we do that for race, culture, gender, age religion and everything else now.

 

[sartre play]

We can continue to yell at each other, That fixes nothing. pointless.
While they with the Money & power continue to skim off the top.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Thank you for answering my original query. Clearly you wouldn't hold it against trump if he raped a 15 year old any more than you did over what he did to E. Jean Carroll.

You did exactly as I said you would: condemning me for not condemning Trump in your imaginary scenario. Congratulations.

 

[Ret Old Man]

The more Trump resists the release of the Epstein files, the more guilt he lays on the table for the public. It is surprising that some of the Democrats aren't fighting over the proposed release since I'm sure many are among the visitors of Epstein Island. If Trump is on the list, there is a possibility he can bounce back, many people in a similar situation have came back to public view and activities.
He has done more good than most presidents, most presidents sit on their haunches and bide their time until their term is over or raise campaign money for the party. Trump has done things that other presidents have talked about but never done. Bringing home the remains of Korean veterans fro N. Korea, moving the capitol of Israel, cutting the budget which is an enormous feat if he can do it but he's losing his support among his followers. Biden shamed us by giving the Taliban the military equipment in Iraq. And Obama pushed homosexuality, protected our enemies in the Mideast at the expense of our military lives, spent untold amounts of money foolishly. Pushed for the Muslim brotherhood to be in charge of Egypt but that failed also.
Trump raised tariffs and all that amounts to is raising taxes on the consumer. But he less we buy, the less tariffs we pay, so we do have somewhat of a choice.

 

[IM2]

The more Trump resists the release of the Epstein files, the more guilt he lays on the table for the public. It is surprising that some of the Democrats aren't fighting over the proposed release since I'm sure many are among the visitors of Epstein Island. If Trump is on the list, there is a possibility he can bounce back, many people in a similar situation have came back to public view and activities.
He has done more good than most presidents, most presidents sit on their haunches and bide their time until their term is over or raise campaign money for the party. Trump has done things that other presidents have talked about but never done. Bringing home the remains of Korean veterans fro N. Korea, moving the capitol of Israel, cutting the budget which is an enormous feat if he can do it but he's losing his support among his followers. Biden shamed us by giving the Taliban the military equipment in Iraq. And Obama pushed homosexuality, protected our enemies in the Mideast at the expense of our military lives, spent untold amounts of money foolishly. Pushed for the Muslim brotherhood to be in charge of Egypt but that failed also.
Trump raised tariffs and all that amounts to is raising taxes on the consumer. But he less we buy, the less tariffs we pay, so we do have somewhat of a choice.

Trump has been the worst president in history. Biden didn't give the taliban jack squat. Trump made the agreement. Trump also supported sex reassignment surgeries for prisoners. Obama is the one who had Bin Laden killed, and it was Obama who destroyed ISIS. Almost everything you say here is inccuraye.

 

[citygator]

The propaganda shills on Tv help to shape the views of voters or keep them in line. One of them, Colbert is fired and leaving next spring. All of the TV shills do not really believe in their Socialist utopia. If they did, they would give up most of their wealth. This is so easy. You spend so much time smearing people on the other side if they screw up promoting morals as an example, you never look at something like this.

I’ve stated for you many times, no one is looking for a socialist society. The reason you wont discuss the actual issues is that you will lose. The only way for you to feel like you arent getting punched in the face constantly is to make up your own argument. I am not sure how satisfying that can possibly be. Try debating real stuff… not imagined.

 

[berg80]

I agree with this, no matter what comes from the story. Cuz trump is covered by an orange dome of protection. He could rape a 15 year old on 5th Ave and The Following wouldn't budge.

Donald Trump’s political obituary has been written more times than anyone could hope to count without the resources of a large data processing center. The “Access Hollywood” tape in 2016, impeachments in 2019 and 2021, the specter of Gov. Ron DeSantis in 2022, a conviction on felony crimes last year: In these and many other instances, reports of Mr. Trump’s political demise have been greatly, perhaps even desperately, exaggerated.

Now we are being told that Mr. Trump’s conspiracy-deflating about-face on the subject of Jeffrey Epstein — the financier and sexual predator whose suicide in jail and supposed client list Mr. Trump now dismisses as “pretty boring stuff” — presents a grave threat to his support.

I think this is rather unlikely. Give it a week or a month or a year, and I suspect that all of it, including any unsealed grand jury transcripts, will be forgotten by nearly everyone except his political opponents.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/20/opinion/trump-epstein-list-suicide.html

 

[Zebra]

Trump, facing MAGA uproar over Epstein files, tries to shift blame elsewhere​

Why unsealing Epstein grand jury records could be a long process

Facing uproar among his MAGA base over the Jeffrey Epstein files, President Donald Trump is trying to deflect blame to others.

abcnews.go.com

For the sake of discussion let's say trump is waste deep in the Epstein scandal. Let's say evidence emerges he is withholding the files because he is implicated in a sex trafficking crime.

What indication is there that his followers will care after ignoring 26 credible accusations of sexual abuse?

none ....

 

[hadit]

Good thing that didn't happen.

We don't know that to be true.

And now back to the subject of the thread.

FBI agents assigned earlier this year to review investigative files in the criminal case against notorious sex offender Jeffrey Epstein were instructed to “flag” any documents that mentioned President Donald Trump, Sen. Richard Durbin said Friday.

That's a problem. I don't care WHO was on the island abusing people. If Bubba Clinton was there, let's see it.

Durbin’s claim came in letters the Illinois Democrat sent to the Justice Department and FBI asking them to explain discrepancies between past statements about a promised release of the Epstein files and findings from a July 7 Justice Department memo, which said no such release would happen.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/18/trump-epstein-fbi-durbin.html

Thoughts?

Release the information, scrubbed of victim identity. What else is acceptable?

 

[Correll]

I’ve stated for you many times, no one is looking for a socialist society. The reason you wont discuss the actual issues is that you will lose. The only way for you to feel like you arent getting punched in the face constantly is to make up your own argument. I am not sure how satisfying that can possibly be. Try debating real stuff… not imagined.

Buddy, we're kicking your ass and remaking society in our desired image.

And, the way things are going, we going to win in the mid terms AND 2028 and be able to keep rolling along nicely.

 

[citygator]

Buddy, we're kicking your ass and remaking society in our desired image.

And, the way things are going, we going to win in the mid terms AND 2028 and be able to keep rolling along nicely.

Bookmarked.

 

[Correll]

Bookmarked.

Cool.

 

[berg80]

Buddy, we're kicking your ass and remaking society in our desired image.

What are you happiest about? Devastating Medicaid and SNAP cuts, the failed promises on inflation and Ukraine, cutting off life saving aid to foreign countries, giving the rich a permanent tax cut, sending US troops in to a US city and keeping them there after the unrest has stopped, violating the constitutional rights of immigrants, trying to obtain unconstitutional powers, firing members of the DoJ for investigating violent members of trump's J6 mob, sending Venezuelans to be tortured in El Salvador, turning a blind eye to Netanyahu's war crimes?

You can rank them if you'd like.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Trump, facing MAGA uproar over Epstein files, tries to shift blame elsewhere​

Why unsealing Epstein grand jury records could be a long process

Facing uproar among his MAGA base over the Jeffrey Epstein files, President Donald Trump is trying to deflect blame to others.

abcnews.go.com

For the sake of discussion let's say trump is waste deep in the Epstein scandal. Let's say evidence emerges he is withholding the files because he is implicated in a sex trafficking crime.

What indication is there that his followers will care after ignoring 26 credible accusations of sexual abuse?

Magafucks won't care.