Artic sea ice has not recovered

[RollingThunder]

I have an idea. How about all of the global warming fantasy scientists borrow the DNC's herd of flying unicorns and blanket the polar regions with glitter. That will reflect the heat back into space and save the ice. Obama can even say it was his idea unless something goes bad and then he can claim it was Bush's idea.

Yeah, yeah, we know, all of the scientists are in a big conspiracy to fool you but you're way smarter than all of those "fantasy" scientists so you just know better. Riiiiiiight.

 

[kwc57]

I have an idea. How about all of the global warming fantasy scientists borrow the DNC's herd of flying unicorns and blanket the polar regions with glitter. That will reflect the heat back into space and save the ice. Obama can even say it was his idea unless something goes bad and then he can claim it was Bush's idea.

Yeah, yeah, we know, all of the scientists are in a big conspiracy to fool you but you're way smarter than all of those "fantasy" scientists so you just know better. Riiiiiiight.

Not ALL the scientists. Just the one's who let their personal agenda drive the results of their science.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You didn't follow me. If the ice began melting 14,000 years ago from a temperature spike of 8C, from which we are just now recovering (else that wouldn't represent the start of the current melting), the melt rate back then must have been even greater than it is now. Yet even if it was only melting at the current rate, it would all have been gone long before the first millenia had passed. Thus the current melt did not begin 14,000 years ago.

Versteht?

And adjusting their predictions given the current hiatus is not "abandoning their glacier-eating CO2 monster".

The spike happened 14-12,000 years ago and it was enough to deglaciate North America and gave us 2 polar ice caps. The climate has been relatively stable the past 12,000 years; ice comes and goes.

There are too many variables to say a wisp of CO2 is melting the ice

So... as has been the case since I got here - you don't have a clue.

Name calling in lieu of experimental evidence is a large tell. It why I'm convinced you're wrong

 

[RollingThunder]

I have an idea. How about all of the global warming fantasy scientists borrow the DNC's herd of flying unicorns and blanket the polar regions with glitter. That will reflect the heat back into space and save the ice. Obama can even say it was his idea unless something goes bad and then he can claim it was Bush's idea.

Yeah, yeah, we know, all of the scientists are in a big conspiracy to fool you but you're way smarter than all of those "fantasy" scientists so you just know better. Riiiiiiight.

Not ALL the scientists. Just the one's who let their personal agenda drive the results of their science.

Oh...so you're just referring to the corrupted scientists who stooge for the fossil fuel industry, like Fred Singer.

Of course, in the mainstream world scientific community, the vast majority of the honest reputable scientists support the conclusions of the world's climate scientists because they understand the scientific research, data and real world evidence that those conclusions are based on.

Meanwhile, crackpot denier cultists like you, KrazyWackoCon57, reject the testimony of virtually all of the actual climate scientists in the world because you imagine that they are all in a big conspiracy to fool you when the reality is that you have already been duped and bamboozled by the deceptive propaganda pushed by the fossil fuel industry in their attempts to protect their profit stream generated by the sales of the CO2 emitting fuels that are causing this climate change crisis in the first place.

 

[Meathead]

No, Arctic Sea Ice Has Not Recovered, Scientists Say | Climate Central

Arctic sea ice extent has reached its seasonal minimum, dropping to the sixth-lowest level in the 35-year satellite record. This year’s melt represents a significant gain in sea ice extent from last year — when the ice cover plummeted to a record low — but scientists cautioned that long-term trends are what is most important, with most projections still showing a seasonally ice free Arctic Ocean by the middle of the century, if not sooner. In addition, measurements of sea ice volume are at near-record low levels, indicating that the ice cover is unusually thin and vulnerable....

For much of the 2013 melt season, low pressure dominated the Central Arctic Ocean and Greenland, leading to cloudier and cooler conditions compared to previous years that had greater declines in sea ice. Average air temperatures were below average over most of the central Arctic Ocean and Greenland this summer, a dramatic contrast to the much warmer-than-average conditions that prevailed during the six previous years.

The summers of 2007 to 2012 were dominated by a weather pattern that helped transport warm air into the Arctic, with a high pressure area over the Beaufort Sea and Greenland, and low pressure over Eurasia, the NSIDC reported.

However, even with the cooler conditions this summer, sea ice extent still dropped into the top 10 lowest on record.

“. . . We still ended up as sixthh lowest, so it reflects that even with a weather pattern that is not favorable for ice loss, you still have