Arlington Cemetery crosses removed

[zzzz]

Should all white crosses be removed from Arlington and all federal cemeteries? Since the US is looking at a stricter interpretation of the constitution regarding separation of church and state are the crosses violating this clause? Would a Muslim soldier buried there have a cross? A Jewish soldier?

 

[manifold]

PS: Jewish soldiers have the Star of David on their graves dumbass

 

[Si modo]

Should all white crosses be removed from Arlington and all federal cemeteries? Since the US is looking at a stricter interpretation of the constitution regarding separation of church and state are the crosses violating this clause? Would a Muslim soldier buried there have a cross? A Jewish soldier?

They are mostly headstones. If one was a Christian, they will have a cross on it (different types for different denominations), if they wanted one. Muslims will have a symbol on theirs, Jews will have a symbol on theirs, etc.

They are headstones.

Normandy has crosses.

 

[zzzz]

PS: Jewish soldiers have the Star of David on their graves dumbass

Same question, should they be removed.

 

[manifold]

Can't missed it corky.

 

[zzzz]

Should all white crosses be removed from Arlington and all federal cemeteries? Since the US is looking at a stricter interpretation of the constitution regarding separation of church and state are the crosses violating this clause? Would a Muslim soldier buried there have a cross? A Jewish soldier?

They are mostly headstones. If one was a Christian, they will have a cross on it (different types for different denominations), if they wanted one. Muslims will have a symbol on theirs, Jews will have a symbol on theirs, etc.

They are headstones.

Normandy has crosses.

Yes the headstones have crosses as can be seen.

File:Graves at Arlington on Memorial Day.JPG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[KissMy]

There is no phrase in the Constitution saying there must be a "Separation of Church & State". The State is only not supposed to prevent citizens from worshiping any god or practicing any religion they choose. If they choose to worship on public property then so be it. The State needs to leave the people alone.

 

[Bill Angel]

Should all white crosses be removed from Arlington and all federal cemeteries? Since the US is looking at a stricter interpretation of the constitution regarding separation of church and state are the crosses violating this clause? Would a Muslim soldier buried there have a cross? A Jewish soldier?

Here is the list of offically approved religous symbols for grave markers at Arlington National Cemetery:

Authorized Emblems

It's interesting to note that one can choose to be buried with a symbol on your headstone denoting that you are an ATHEIST!

 

[jillian]

PS: Jewish soldiers have the Star of David on their graves dumbass

yep...

why would it bother anyone that people who died in the service of their country are comforted in death by religious symbols?

 

[jillian]

Should all white crosses be removed from Arlington and all federal cemeteries? Since the US is looking at a stricter interpretation of the constitution regarding separation of church and state are the crosses violating this clause? Would a Muslim soldier buried there have a cross? A Jewish soldier?

no one is looking at a 'stricter interpretation' of the separation of church and state. what people aren't doing is fighting against those who would do away with it.

 

[jillian]

There is no phrase in the Constitution saying there must be a "Separation of Church & State". The State is only not supposed to prevent citizens from worshiping any god or practicing any religion they choose. If they choose to worship on public property then so be it. The State needs to leave the people alone.

*shakes head*

no... the minority is also protected from people who want to shove their religious beliefs down the throats of others.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Should all white crosses be removed from Arlington and all federal cemeteries? Since the US is looking at a stricter interpretation of the constitution regarding separation of church and state are the crosses violating this clause? Would a Muslim soldier buried there have a cross? A Jewish soldier?

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

There is no phrase in the Constitution saying there must be a "Separation of Church & State". The State is only not supposed to prevent citizens from worshiping any god or practicing any religion they choose. If they choose to worship on public property then so be it. The State needs to leave the people alone.

*shakes head*

no... the minority is also protected from people who want to shove their religious beliefs down the throats of others.

Is their going to be any protection against those whose "religion" calls for the eradication of all non members ?
8:39. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allâh) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allâh Alone [in the whole of the world]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allâh), then certainly, Allâh is All-Seer of what they do.

2:193.. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allâh) and (all and every kind of) worship is for Allâh (Alone).[] But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zâlimûn (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc

 

[KissMy]

There is no phrase in the Constitution saying there must be a "Separation of Church & State". The State is only not supposed to prevent citizens from worshiping any god or practicing any religion they choose. If they choose to worship on public property then so be it. The State needs to leave the people alone.

*shakes head*

no... the minority is also protected from people who want to shove their religious beliefs down the throats of others.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Wiki - "The U.S. Supreme Court has interpreted it, to mean that religion and government must stay separate for the benefit of both, including the idea that the government must not impose religion on Americans nor create any law requiring it. It has since been in several opinions handed down by the United States Supreme Court, though the Court has not always fully embraced the principle."

Sorry, but I do not see where the minority is also protected from people who want to shove their religious beliefs down the throats of others.

 

[syrenn]

Should all white crosses be removed from Arlington and all federal cemeteries? Since the US is looking at a stricter interpretation of the constitution regarding separation of church and state are the crosses violating this clause? Would a Muslim soldier buried there have a cross? A Jewish soldier?

I am all for separation of church and state. What you ask about Arlington has nothing to do with chruch and state. What you are asking is separating the religion of choice from the fallen dead.

If you have ever gone to a military cemetery you will see that not all markers are crosses. The crosses go on graves of soldiers who have stated they are christian. Star of Davids go on jewish soldiers graves. I am not sure what the muslim symbol is (the star and crescent?) but i am sure that is what would be used as a marker.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

Congress shall pass no law regarding the establishment of religion nor interfere with the free exercise therof. (from memory)

I would think the headstone belongs to the soldier, and it really isn't the right of the government (whom he died defending) to mess with it.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Should all white crosses be removed from Arlington and all federal cemeteries? Since the US is looking at a stricter interpretation of the constitution regarding separation of church and state are the crosses violating this clause? Would a Muslim soldier buried there have a cross? A Jewish soldier?

Here is the list of offically approved religous symbols for grave markers at Arlington National Cemetery:

Authorized Emblems

It's interesting to note that one can choose to be buried with a symbol on your headstone denoting that you are an ATHEIST!

Well, there you go. Everyone should be perfectly satisfied, and what's it to anyone what a total stranger has on his headstone?

 

[Missourian]

Should all white crosses be removed from Arlington and all federal cemeteries? Since the US is looking at a stricter interpretation of the constitution regarding separation of church and state are the crosses violating this clause? Would a Muslim soldier buried there have a cross? A Jewish soldier?

I am all for separation of church and state. What you ask about Arlington has nothing to do with chruch and state. What you are asking is separating the religion of choice from the fallen dead.

If you have ever gone to a military cemetery you will see that not all markers are crosses. The crosses go on graves of soldiers who have stated they are christian. Star of Davids go on jewish soldiers graves. I am not sure what the muslim symbol is (the star and crescent?) but i am sure that is what would be used as a marker.

So what is the difference between this:

Should Utah Have to Remove Roadside Memorial Crosses? - TIME NewsFeed
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And the topic being discussed?

 

[jillian]

There is no phrase in the Constitution saying there must be a "Separation of Church & State". The State is only not supposed to prevent citizens from worshiping any god or practicing any religion they choose. If they choose to worship on public property then so be it. The State needs to leave the people alone.

*shakes head*

no... the minority is also protected from people who want to shove their religious beliefs down the throats of others.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Wiki - "The U.S. Supreme Court has interpreted it, to mean that religion and government must stay separate for the benefit of both, including the idea that the government must not impose religion on Americans nor create any law requiring it. It has since been in several opinions handed down by the United States Supreme Court, though the Court has not always fully embraced the principle."

Sorry, but I do not see where the minority is also protected from people who want to shove their religious beliefs down the throats of others.

thanks for your expert 'opinion' as derived from google...

 

[Ozmar]

Should all white crosses be removed from Arlington and all federal cemeteries? Since the US is looking at a stricter interpretation of the constitution regarding separation of church and state are the crosses violating this clause? Would a Muslim soldier buried there have a cross? A Jewish soldier?

I think you will find that muslim and jewish soldiers do not have to be buried under a cross. Nice try though.