Are We Alone?

[zaangalewa]

what could for example also explain why homeopathic agents help sometimes

Homeopathic agents do not "help sometimes". Homeopathy is a steaming pile of horseshit.

a more ignorant comment has never been said,,,

Hey look! Its the attention-begging troll, saying stupid shit to elicit responses!

did you know that most modern medicines are based on homeopathic compounds????

No. But in medicine truth is a very simple thing: "Who heals is right!". But not to forget prevention: no drugs, no alcohol, no cigarettes, no distress, weighted out and diversified food - incuding times of fastening - activity, movements of the body, soul and spirit, meditations, studies, a pet ... and not to forget: social communication with real persons and not only virtuality ... and so on.

 

[Hollie]

They are teaching the facts as we know them. And everything we know today came from thinkers like them.

You couldn't argue the facts that lead us to evolution. What you do is you don't know the facts and you just blow off the conclusion. If you knew all the facts you'd know how stupid you sound.

Prays be god.

Prays be to God, but we are alone as he created us in his image. The evos can't stand it tho.

This is the type of facts that should be taught about evolution. Regarding Darwin, it must be taught that his kind of "survival of the fittest" thinking led to exclusionary and elitist socialDarwinism, racist Eugenics, Hitler, the Holocaust, genocide against blacks and Planned Parenthood. I think it starts with changing the US Supreme Court. Then we may get some rulings favoring real science -- creation science. Prays be to God for that.

The only thing evolution got right was natural selection and that isn't such a big deal anymore except the evos used it to foist the genocidal, racist and other BS thinking masquerading as science upon the masses. Not only that, there are no morals behind not having God and a creator. Science does not deal with moral values. With evolution, science itself has become immoral believing in lies instead of the scientific method.

That was quite the Bible thumping tirade. As usual, all of it is just the ranting of the xtian Taliban.

Your tirade attempting to link Darwinian theory is right out of the extremist xtian ministries and has been thoroughly debunked as the ranting of the more excitable zealots.

It’s really disappointing to see the fundie zealots screeching about morals when the same zealots litter their tirades with lies, falsehoods and misrepresentation.

I didn't use one quote from the Bible, but world history after Darwin. It goes to show you do not know Herbert Spencer nor Darwin's cousin, Francis Galton who came up with Eugenics. Even Darwin's father and his fellow scientists thought blacks were of a lower class. It was part of pseudoscientific racism they believed in. It is no mistake the black man is lower on the evolutionary scale and drawn more like an ape that the white man.

Darwin demonstrated his racism in his second book The Descent of Man. Darwin's writings and conceptions ended up influencing Ernst Haeckel who used them to form his own biological ideas that he wanted to do and experiment on refugees with Hitler. Darwin also influenced Houston Chamberlain into forming anti-Semitic ideas for the Nazi racial party. Thus, Darwin's ideas were responsible for the deaths of over nine million people in Nazi concentration camps. Satan himself could not have done a better job sending these people to their deaths.

Do you consider yourself superior because of Darwin's ideas? You do not even know me and yet put me is a stereotype of Christians. Your posts are ridiculous and easily dismissed.

https://home.uchicago.edu/~rjr6/articles/Was Hitler a Darwinian.pdf

You notice that I proved links to back up what I have been saying and it is all part of history. However, we do not hear this from the atheists. What we hear is defense of Darwin and how great of a scientist he was. He could just as well been a mass murderer.

It’s actually pretty funny that the xtian zealot would reference Hitler in his rants. Nazi ideology was deeply rooted in Christianity. The Wehrmacht had the inscription “Got mitt uns” (god is with us), on their belt buckles.

As usual, there is not a single reference to your frantic rants where you claim racism and eugenics is tied to evolutionary biology. In fact, your rants are nothing more than nonsensical claims you steal from the worst of the worst fundie xtian ministries.

I find it not at all surprising that the most extreme bible thumpers are often the most racist. Certainly, you are in good company with the racist and mentally deficient Henry Morris and his legacy of ignorance.




Claim CA005:
Evolution promotes racism.


Source:
Morris, Henry M. 1985. Scientific Creationism. Green Forest, AR: Master Books, p. 179.

CA005.1: Darwin's racism

Response:

1. When properly understood, evolution refutes racism. Before Darwin, people used typological thinking for living things, considering different plants and animals to be their distinct "kinds." This gave rise to a misleading conception of human races, in which different races are thought of as separate and distinct. Darwinism helps eliminate typological thinking and with it the basis for racism.
   
   
2. Genetic studies show that humans are remarkably homogeneous genetically, so all humans are only one biological race. Evolution does not teach racism; it teaches the very opposite.
   
   
3. Racism is thousands of years older than the theory of evolution, and its prevalence has probably decreased since Darwin's day; certainly slavery is much less now. That is the opposite of what we would expect if evolution promotes racism.
   
   
4. Darwin himself was far less racist than most of his contemporaries.
   
   
5. Although creationism is not inherently racist, it is based upon and inseparable from religious bigotry, and religious bigotry is no less hateful and harmful than racism.
   
   
6. Racism historically has been closely associated with creationism (Moore 2004), as is evident in the following examples:
   • George McCready Price, who is to young-earth creationism what Darwin is to evolution, was much more racist than Darwin. He wrote,The poor little fellow who went to the south
     Got lost in the forests dank;
     His skin grew black, as the fierce sun beat
     And scorched his hair with its tropic heat,
     And his mind became a blank.In The Phantom of Organic Evolution, he referred to Negroes and Mongolians as degenerate humans (Numbers 1992, 85).
     
     
   • During much of the long history of apartheid in South Africa, evolution was not allowed to be taught. The Christian National Education system, formalized in 1948 and accepted as national policy from 1967 to 1993, stated, among other things,that white children should 'receive a separate education from black children to prepare them for their respective superior and inferior positions in South African social and economic life, and all education should be based on Christian National principles' (Esterhuysen and Smith 1998).The policy excluded the concept of evolution, taught a version of history that negatively characterized non-whites, and made Bible education, including the teaching of creationism, and religious assemblies compulsory (Esterhuysen and Smith 1998).
     
     
   • The Bible Belt in the southern United States fought hardest to maintain slavery.
     
     
   • Henry Morris, of the Institute for Creation Research, has in the past read racism into his interpretation of the Bible:Sometimes the Hamites, especially the Negroes, have even become actual slaves to the others. Possessed of a genetic character concerned mainly with mundane, practical matters, they have often eventually been displaced by the intellectual and philosophical acumen of the Japhethites and the religious zeal of the Semites (Morris 1976, 241).
7. None of this matters to the science of evolution.

 

[james bond]

I didn't use one quote from the Bible, but world history after Darwin. It goes to show you do not know Herbert Spencer nor Darwin's cousin, Francis Galton who came up with Eugenics. Even Darwin's father and his fellow scientists thought blacks were of a lower class. It was part of pseudoscientific racism they believed in. It is no mistake the black man is lower on the evolutionary scale and drawn more like an ape that the white man.

Darwin demonstrated his racism in his second book The Descent of Man. Darwin's writings and conceptions ended up influencing Ernst Haeckel who used them to form his own biological ideas that he wanted to do and experiment on refugees with Hitler. Darwin also influenced Houston Chamberlain into forming anti-Semitic ideas for the Nazi racial party. Thus, Darwin's ideas were responsible for the deaths of over nine million people in Nazi concentration camps. Satan himself could not have done a better job sending these people to their deaths.

Do you consider yourself superior because of Darwin's ideas? You do not even know me and yet put me is a stereotype of Christians. Your posts are ridiculous and easily dismissed.

https://home.uchicago.edu/~rjr6/articles/Was Hitler a Darwinian.pdf

You notice that I proved links to back up what I have been saying and it is all part of history. However, we do not hear this from the atheists. What we hear is defense of Darwin and how great of a scientist he was. He could just as well been a mass murderer.

It’s actually pretty funny that the xtian zealot would reference Hitler in his rants. Nazi ideology was deeply rooted in Christianity. The Wehrmacht had the inscription “Got mitt uns” (god is with us), on their belt buckles.

As usual, there is not a single reference to your frantic rants where you claim racism and eugenics is tied to evolutionary biology. In fact, your rants are nothing more than nonsensical claims you steal from the worst of the worst fundie xtian ministries.

I find it not at all surprising that the most extreme bible thumpers are often the most racist. Certainly, you are in good company with the racist and mentally deficient Henry Morris and his legacy of ignorance.

Claim CA005:
Evolution promotes racism.

Source:
Morris, Henry M. 1985. Scientific Creationism. Green Forest, AR: Master Books, p. 179.

CA005.1: Darwin's racism

Response:

1. When properly understood, evolution refutes racism. Before Darwin, people used typological thinking for living things, considering different plants and animals to be their distinct "kinds." This gave rise to a misleading conception of human races, in which different races are thought of as separate and distinct. Darwinism helps eliminate typological thinking and with it the basis for racism.
   
   
2. Genetic studies show that humans are remarkably homogeneous genetically, so all humans are only one biological race. Evolution does not teach racism; it teaches the very opposite.
   
   
3. Racism is thousands of years older than the theory of evolution, and its prevalence has probably decreased since Darwin's day; certainly slavery is much less now. That is the opposite of what we would expect if evolution promotes racism.
   
   
4. Darwin himself was far less racist than most of his contemporaries.
   
   
5. Although creationism is not inherently racist, it is based upon and inseparable from religious bigotry, and religious bigotry is no less hateful and harmful than racism.
   
   
6. Racism historically has been closely associated with creationism (Moore 2004), as is evident in the following examples:
   • George McCready Price, who is to young-earth creationism what Darwin is to evolution, was much more racist than Darwin. He wrote,The poor little fellow who went to the south
     Got lost in the forests dank;
     His skin grew black, as the fierce sun beat
     And scorched his hair with its tropic heat,
     And his mind became a blank.In The Phantom of Organic Evolution, he referred to Negroes and Mongolians as degenerate humans (Numbers 1992, 85).
     
     
   • During much of the long history of apartheid in South Africa, evolution was not allowed to be taught. The Christian National Education system, formalized in 1948 and accepted as national policy from 1967 to 1993, stated, among other things,that white children should 'receive a separate education from black children to prepare them for their respective superior and inferior positions in South African social and economic life, and all education should be based on Christian National principles' (Esterhuysen and Smith 1998).The policy excluded the concept of evolution, taught a version of history that negatively characterized non-whites, and made Bible education, including the teaching of creationism, and religious assemblies compulsory (Esterhuysen and Smith 1998).
     
     
   • The Bible Belt in the southern United States fought hardest to maintain slavery.
     
     
   • Henry Morris, of the Institute for Creation Research, has in the past read racism into his interpretation of the Bible:Sometimes the Hamites, especially the Negroes, have even become actual slaves to the others. Possessed of a genetic character concerned mainly with mundane, practical matters, they have often eventually been displaced by the intellectual and philosophical acumen of the Japhethites and the religious zeal of the Semites (Morris 1976, 241).
7. None of this matters to the science of evolution.

You hypocritically chastise me for legitimately using copy, pasting and linking haha.

This is an attempt at WHITEWASH. No amount of this kind of fodder argument can hide the FACT that Darwin's wrong ideas led to tragedy, tragedy, tragedy, racism, racism, racism, and genocide, genocide, genocide. We still have Planned Parenthood operating in predominantly poor black and Hispanic neighborhoods in order to kill babies of color. You will not find one in the white and richer neighborhoods. Darwin's dumb ideas are still with us today in the form of genocide, racism and a modern form of socialDarwinsm. Can you deny it? Of course you can, but you cannot whitewash the truth and facts from intelligent peoples. What you have is the lowest forms of human life believing in this kind of crap. The Westboro Baptist Church and true racists like Al Gore are Democrat and in the liberal midst. The MSM media spares no expense when it has a chance to whitewash and paint the conservatives as the racists. So, all of this is tied into politics, government, science and religion. I do not think we can separate them all. It is unfortunate that the great USA may not be able to withstand the liberal onslaught. Satan is indeed the "god of the Earth and prince of the power of the air." You cannot explain why all the low brow internet atheists us God in lower case haha.

The atheists and libs will not hesitate to use anything in order to whitewash the masses to their fake science and atheist religion.

Darwin had his "white man's burden" form of racism in which blacks are deemed inferior and are given social welfare by the "stronger" (survival of the fittest) white races. We also had the Darwinian form of racism and genocide where blacks and other races are deemed inferior and need to be exterminated. Which one are you, Hollie? You have shown your true colors and are the lowest of the low.

"At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes ... will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilized state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the Negro or Australian and the gorilla (Darwin - The Descent of Man p. 156)."

Quote by Charles Darwin: “At some future period, not very distant as meas...”

Is it any wonder Darwin's science books became a best seller starting with The Origin of Species?

 

[sealybobo]

They are teaching the facts as we know them. And everything we know today came from thinkers like them.

You couldn't argue the facts that lead us to evolution. What you do is you don't know the facts and you just blow off the conclusion. If you knew all the facts you'd know how stupid you sound.

Prays be god.

Prays be to God, but we are alone as he created us in his image. The evos can't stand it tho.

This is the type of facts that should be taught about evolution. Regarding Darwin, it must be taught that his kind of "survival of the fittest" thinking led to exclusionary and elitist socialDarwinism, racist Eugenics, Hitler, the Holocaust, genocide against blacks and Planned Parenthood. I think it starts with changing the US Supreme Court. Then we may get some rulings favoring real science -- creation science. Prays be to God for that.

The only thing evolution got right was natural selection and that isn't such a big deal anymore except the evos used it to foist the genocidal, racist and other BS thinking masquerading as science upon the masses. Not only that, there are no morals behind not having God and a creator. Science does not deal with moral values. With evolution, science itself has become immoral believing in lies instead of the scientific method.

The fact Darwin inspired hitler doesn’t turn me off to Darwin

 

[sealybobo]

I don't have the latest figures, but the US is ranked towards the bottom in math and science. Is this due to atheist science or what? The US students are mediocre or less in other subjects.

Here's The New Ranking Of Top Countries In Reading, Science, And Math

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-02-16/ranking-countries-by-the-worst-students

No sir. Students who learn atheist science do better. Link that shows I’m wrong

 

[sealybobo]

sealybobo just what are you atheists and atheist religion teaching the students? NASA claims they will find aliens, i.e. microbes, by the year 2025. There isn't any evidence of them and they do not team the fine tuning facts. Why are these key findings in science being ignored? Next, they will be saying GMO foods are safe.

Right now they’re looking to see if life existed on Mars before life started on earth. Life probably existed on Mars at one time. It had water when we did not.

Relax reverend. We are looking now. You don’t arm chair quarterback is. Just sit there shut up and read your Bible. And pray. And when you get sick come see an atheist doctor

 

[Hollie]

I didn't use one quote from the Bible, but world history after Darwin. It goes to show you do not know Herbert Spencer nor Darwin's cousin, Francis Galton who came up with Eugenics. Even Darwin's father and his fellow scientists thought blacks were of a lower class. It was part of pseudoscientific racism they believed in. It is no mistake the black man is lower on the evolutionary scale and drawn more like an ape that the white man.

Darwin demonstrated his racism in his second book The Descent of Man. Darwin's writings and conceptions ended up influencing Ernst Haeckel who used them to form his own biological ideas that he wanted to do and experiment on refugees with Hitler. Darwin also influenced Houston Chamberlain into forming anti-Semitic ideas for the Nazi racial party. Thus, Darwin's ideas were responsible for the deaths of over nine million people in Nazi concentration camps. Satan himself could not have done a better job sending these people to their deaths.

Do you consider yourself superior because of Darwin's ideas? You do not even know me and yet put me is a stereotype of Christians. Your posts are ridiculous and easily dismissed.

https://home.uchicago.edu/~rjr6/articles/Was Hitler a Darwinian.pdf

You notice that I proved links to back up what I have been saying and it is all part of history. However, we do not hear this from the atheists. What we hear is defense of Darwin and how great of a scientist he was. He could just as well been a mass murderer.

It’s actually pretty funny that the xtian zealot would reference Hitler in his rants. Nazi ideology was deeply rooted in Christianity. The Wehrmacht had the inscription “Got mitt uns” (god is with us), on their belt buckles.

As usual, there is not a single reference to your frantic rants where you claim racism and eugenics is tied to evolutionary biology. In fact, your rants are nothing more than nonsensical claims you steal from the worst of the worst fundie xtian ministries.

I find it not at all surprising that the most extreme bible thumpers are often the most racist. Certainly, you are in good company with the racist and mentally deficient Henry Morris and his legacy of ignorance.

Claim CA005:
Evolution promotes racism.

Source:
Morris, Henry M. 1985. Scientific Creationism. Green Forest, AR: Master Books, p. 179.

CA005.1: Darwin's racism

Response:

1. When properly understood, evolution refutes racism. Before Darwin, people used typological thinking for living things, considering different plants and animals to be their distinct "kinds." This gave rise to a misleading conception of human races, in which different races are thought of as separate and distinct. Darwinism helps eliminate typological thinking and with it the basis for racism.
   
   
2. Genetic studies show that humans are remarkably homogeneous genetically, so all humans are only one biological race. Evolution does not teach racism; it teaches the very opposite.
   
   
3. Racism is thousands of years older than the theory of evolution, and its prevalence has probably decreased since Darwin's day; certainly slavery is much less now. That is the opposite of what we would expect if evolution promotes racism.
   
   
4. Darwin himself was far less racist than most of his contemporaries.
   
   
5. Although creationism is not inherently racist, it is based upon and inseparable from religious bigotry, and religious bigotry is no less hateful and harmful than racism.
   
   
6. Racism historically has been closely associated with creationism (Moore 2004), as is evident in the following examples:
   • George McCready Price, who is to young-earth creationism what Darwin is to evolution, was much more racist than Darwin. He wrote,The poor little fellow who went to the south
     Got lost in the forests dank;
     His skin grew black, as the fierce sun beat
     And scorched his hair with its tropic heat,
     And his mind became a blank.In The Phantom of Organic Evolution, he referred to Negroes and Mongolians as degenerate humans (Numbers 1992, 85).
     
     
   • During much of the long history of apartheid in South Africa, evolution was not allowed to be taught. The Christian National Education system, formalized in 1948 and accepted as national policy from 1967 to 1993, stated, among other things,that white children should 'receive a separate education from black children to prepare them for their respective superior and inferior positions in South African social and economic life, and all education should be based on Christian National principles' (Esterhuysen and Smith 1998).The policy excluded the concept of evolution, taught a version of history that negatively characterized non-whites, and made Bible education, including the teaching of creationism, and religious assemblies compulsory (Esterhuysen and Smith 1998).
     
     
   • The Bible Belt in the southern United States fought hardest to maintain slavery.
     
     
   • Henry Morris, of the Institute for Creation Research, has in the past read racism into his interpretation of the Bible:Sometimes the Hamites, especially the Negroes, have even become actual slaves to the others. Possessed of a genetic character concerned mainly with mundane, practical matters, they have often eventually been displaced by the intellectual and philosophical acumen of the Japhethites and the religious zeal of the Semites (Morris 1976, 241).
7. None of this matters to the science of evolution.

You hypocritically chastise me for legitimately using copy, pasting and linking haha.

This is an attempt at WHITEWASH. No amount of this kind of fodder argument can hide the FACT that Darwin's wrong ideas led to tragedy, tragedy, tragedy, racism, racism, racism, and genocide, genocide, genocide. We still have Planned Parenthood operating in predominantly poor black and Hispanic neighborhoods in order to kill babies of color. You will not find one in the white and richer neighborhoods. Darwin's dumb ideas are still with us today in the form of genocide, racism and a modern form of socialDarwinsm. Can you deny it? Of course you can, but you cannot whitewash the truth and facts from intelligent peoples. What you have is the lowest forms of human life believing in this kind of crap. The Westboro Baptist Church and true racists like Al Gore are Democrat and in the liberal midst. The MSM media spares no expense when it has a chance to whitewash and paint the conservatives as the racists. So, all of this is tied into politics, government, science and religion. I do not think we can separate them all. It is unfortunate that the great USA may not be able to withstand the liberal onslaught. Satan is indeed the "god of the Earth and prince of the power of the air." You cannot explain why all the low brow internet atheists us God in lower case haha.

The atheists and libs will not hesitate to use anything in order to whitewash the masses to their fake science and atheist religion.

Darwin had his "white man's burden" form of racism in which blacks are deemed inferior and are given social welfare by the "stronger" (survival of the fittest) white races. We also had the Darwinian form of racism and genocide where blacks and other races are deemed inferior and need to be exterminated. Which one are you, Hollie? You have shown your true colors and are the lowest of the low.

"At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes ... will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilized state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the Negro or Australian and the gorilla (Darwin - The Descent of Man p. 156)."

Quote by Charles Darwin: “At some future period, not very distant as meas...”

Is it any wonder Darwin's science books became a best seller starting with The Origin of Species?

I thought it was typical that you sidestepped the racism that accompanies your xtian ministries. Your hero Henry Morris is among the worst.

I found it pretty typical that your “quotes”, no doubt from your ID’iot creation ministries are fraudulent. One of the sad realities of ID’Iot creationists is their willingness to lie as a means to support their extremist views.

The cut and paste “quote” you dumped in the thread is one I’m familiar with as ID’iot creationists cut and paste it from xtian ministries. Too bad it’s a fraud. Too bad you’re an accomplice to fraud.

The full quote, in context is here.

Quote Mine Project: Assorted Quotes

The great break in the organic chain between man and his nearest allies, which cannot be bridged over by any extinct or living species, has often been advanced as a grave objection to the belief that man is descended from some lower form; but this objection will not appear of much weight to those who, from general reasons, believe in the general principle of evolution. Breaks often occur in all parts of the series, some being wide, sharp and defined, others less so in various degrees; as between the orang and its nearest allies -- between the Tarsius and the other Lemuridae -- between the elephant, and in a more striking manner between the Ornithorhynchus or Echidna, and all other mammals. But these breaks depend merely on the number of related forms which have become extinct. At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes, as Professor Schaaffhausen has remarked, will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla. (Darwin, The Descent of Man and Selection in Relation to Sex. 2nd edn., London, John Murray, 1882, p. 156, which can be found at The writings of Charles Darwin on the web.)

First of all, Darwin is making a technical argument as to the "reality" of species, particularly Homo sapiens in this case, and why there should still be apparently distinct species, if all the different forms of life are related by common descent through incremental small changes. His answer is that competition against those forms with some, even small, advantage tends to eliminate closely related forms, giving rise to an apparent "gap" between the remaining forms. Whether or not Darwin was right about that is irrelevant to the use of this quote mine, of course, since that is part of the context that the creationists using it have assiduously removed. For those interested in the real issue, a bit more information can be found in the response to Quote #3.1.

You dishonest fundie zealots are your own worst enemy.

 

[sealybobo]

They are teaching the facts as we know them. And everything we know today came from thinkers like them.

You couldn't argue the facts that lead us to evolution. What you do is you don't know the facts and you just blow off the conclusion. If you knew all the facts you'd know how stupid you sound.

Prays be god.

Prays be to God, but we are alone as he created us in his image. The evos can't stand it tho.

This is the type of facts that should be taught about evolution. Regarding Darwin, it must be taught that his kind of "survival of the fittest" thinking led to exclusionary and elitist socialDarwinism, racist Eugenics, Hitler, the Holocaust, genocide against blacks and Planned Parenthood. I think it starts with changing the US Supreme Court. Then we may get some rulings favoring real science -- creation science. Prays be to God for that.

The only thing evolution got right was natural selection and that isn't such a big deal anymore except the evos used it to foist the genocidal, racist and other BS thinking masquerading as science upon the masses. Not only that, there are no morals behind not having God and a creator. Science does not deal with moral values. With evolution, science itself has become immoral believing in lies instead of the scientific method.

That was quite the Bible thumping tirade. As usual, all of it is just the ranting of the xtian Taliban.

Your tirade attempting to link Darwinian theory is right out of the extremist xtian ministries and has been thoroughly debunked as the ranting of the more excitable zealots.

It’s really disappointing to see the fundie zealots screeching about morals when the same zealots litter their tirades with lies, falsehoods and misrepresentation.

And it’s irrelevant that Hitler liked survival of the fittest. It’s still true

 

[zaangalewa]

... And it’s irrelevant that Hitler liked survival of the fittest. It’s still true

It is not irrelevant that as well Japan (Shintoism, Buddhism) and Germany (Christianity) were destroyed from the materialistic "science" social Darwinism = the racism of the English speaking world. An opportunistic Darwinism far from any form of reality and truth is not a natural law of human societes.

 

[sealybobo]

... And it’s irrelevant that Hitler liked survival of the fittest. It’s still true

It is not irrelevant that as well Japan (Shintoism, Buddhism) and Germany (Christianity) were destroyed from the materialistic "science" social Darwinism = the racism of the English speaking world. An opportunistic Darwinism far from any form of reality and truth is not a natural law of human societes.

If we ever get nuked will you bash Einstein?

 

[MisterBeale]

What's your thought on life on other planets? Intelligent life?

Of course we are not, "alone."

Life? That is something that needs to have a much broader definition. Intelligence and consciousness need a more expansive definition too.

. . . and yet, that understanding needs to be tempered empirical and existential logical proofs.

There are multiple dimensions as well.

Most folks have a very limited understanding of this existence, in both their understanding of time and space.

 

[sealybobo]

What's your thought on life on other planets? Intelligent life?

Of course we are not, "alone."

Life? That is something that needs to have a much broader definition. Intelligence and consciousness need a more expansive definition too.

. . . and yet, that understanding needs to be tempered empirical and existential logical proofs.

There are multiple dimensions as well.

Most folks have a very limited understanding of this existence, in both their understanding of time and space.

I think microbes, proteins, amino acids, fungus exist all over the universe.

The diverse life on earth might be very rare but with so many stars planets and moons that still probably means hundreds of planets like ours. Or thousands.

 

[zaangalewa]

... And it’s irrelevant that Hitler liked survival of the fittest. It’s still true

It is not irrelevant that as well Japan (Shintoism, Buddhism) and Germany (Christianity) were destroyed from the materialistic "science" social Darwinism = the racism of the English speaking world. An opportunistic Darwinism far from any form of reality and truth is not a natural law of human societes.

If we ever get nuked will you bash Einstein?

Who is "we"? And what has my good old soulmate Albert to do with people, who give the might over powerful nukes to ego-centralized idiots with a lack of wisdom, love and self-restraint?

 

[zaangalewa]

What's your thought on life on other planets? Intelligent life?

Of course we are not, "alone."

Life? That is something that needs to have a much broader definition. Intelligence and consciousness need a more expansive definition too.

. . . and yet, that understanding needs to be tempered empirical and existential logical proofs.

There are multiple dimensions as well.

Most folks have a very limited understanding of this existence, in both their understanding of time and space.

I think microbes, proteins, amino acids, fungus exist all over the universe.

You don't think - you believe (without any plausibility in this case) that microbes and fungi exist all over the universe.

The diverse life on earth might be very rare but with so many stars planets and moons that still probably means hundreds of planets like ours. Or thousands.

Even on our own planet - the best of all possible places - is multi-cellular life only a few hundred million years old - and we have here big regions where to live is nearly impossible: deserts, ice-deserts, water-deserts ... and not to forget the deadly deserts in the human minds. Living structures are the most seldom and most valueable structures of the universe.

 

[sealybobo]

What's your thought on life on other planets? Intelligent life?

Of course we are not, "alone."

Life? That is something that needs to have a much broader definition. Intelligence and consciousness need a more expansive definition too.

. . . and yet, that understanding needs to be tempered empirical and existential logical proofs.

There are multiple dimensions as well.

Most folks have a very limited understanding of this existence, in both their understanding of time and space.

I think microbes, proteins, amino acids, fungus exist all over the universe.

You don't think - you believe (without any plausibility in this case) that microbes and fungi exist all over the universe.

The diverse life on earth might be very rare but with so many stars planets and moons that still probably means hundreds of planets like ours. Or thousands.

Even on our own planet - the best of all possible places - is multi-cellular life only a few hundred million years old - and we have here big regions, where to live is nearly impossible: deserts, ice-deserts, water-deserts ... and not to forget the deadly deserts in the human minds. Living structures are the most seldom and most valueable structures of the universe.

If I had the power to look all over the universe I would be willing to bet my life we are not alone.

 

[sealybobo]

... And it’s irrelevant that Hitler liked survival of the fittest. It’s still true

It is not irrelevant that as well Japan (Shintoism, Buddhism) and Germany (Christianity) were destroyed from the materialistic "science" social Darwinism = the racism of the English speaking world. An opportunistic Darwinism far from any form of reality and truth is not a natural law of human societes.

If we ever get nuked will you bash Einstein?

Who is "we"? And what has my good old soulmate Albert to do with people, who give the might to nuke others to ego-centralized idiots with a lack of wisdom, love and self-restraint?

So why blame Darwin for what Hitler did with the concept of survival of the fittest?

 

[zaangalewa]

What's your thought on life on other planets? Intelligent life?

Of course we are not, "alone."

Life? That is something that needs to have a much broader definition. Intelligence and consciousness need a more expansive definition too.

. . . and yet, that understanding needs to be tempered empirical and existential logical proofs.

There are multiple dimensions as well.

Most folks have a very limited understanding of this existence, in both their understanding of time and space.

I think microbes, proteins, amino acids, fungus exist all over the universe.

You don't think - you believe (without any plausibility in this case) that microbes and fungi exist all over the universe.

The diverse life on earth might be very rare but with so many stars planets and moons that still probably means hundreds of planets like ours. Or thousands.

Even on our own planet - the best of all possible places - is multi-cellular life only a few hundred million years old - and we have here big regions, where to live is nearly impossible: deserts, ice-deserts, water-deserts ... and not to forget the deadly deserts in the human minds. Living structures are the most seldom and most valueable structures of the universe.

If I had the power to look all over the universe I would be willing to bet my life we are not alone.

You bet your life? What a nonsense. We say in such cases "I bet to eat a broom if ... ". Makes more fun to have to eat a broom than to die. Here a video "how to eat a broom" for beginners - but you never have to eat this broom, because tomorrow someone could find extraterrestrian life - even if nowhere in the universe exists extraterrestrian life.

 

[zaangalewa]

... And it’s irrelevant that Hitler liked survival of the fittest. It’s still true

It is not irrelevant that as well Japan (Shintoism, Buddhism) and Germany (Christianity) were destroyed from the materialistic "science" social Darwinism = the racism of the English speaking world. An opportunistic Darwinism far from any form of reality and truth is not a natural law of human societes.

If we ever get nuked will you bash Einstein?

Who is "we"? And what has my good old soulmate Albert to do with people, who give the might to nuke others to ego-centralized idiots with a lack of wisdom, love and self-restraint?

So why blame Darwin for what Hitler did with the concept of survival of the fittest?

If you are not able to understand, what other people say to you on what kind of reason: Why for heavens sake do you try to speak with them?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You don't think - you believe (without any plausibility in this case)

Without plausibility? It seems very likely that life exists elsewhere in the universe.

 

[zaangalewa]

You don't think - you believe (without any plausibility in this case)

Without plausibility? It seems very likely that life exists elsewhere in the universe.

Microbes and fungi with the genetic code, which comes from the sisters and brothers of the life of our own planet Earth? How plausible is this? Not plausible at all, isn't it?