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VOTING MACHINES? VOTES?
"We did not see anything that amounted to altering ballot counts or degrading the ability to report election results, nothing out of the ordinary,” Johnson said during a Washington Post Live event on Tuesday evening. “There’s always a certain amount of noise that goes on there but on election night itself, we didn’t see anything that affected the ballot count. ... “We see no evidence that hacking by any actor altered the ballot count or any cyber actions that deprived people of voting.”
* Jeh Johnson: “No evidence” of hacking electoral machines or ballot counts - Hot Air
POLITIFACT:
DNC E-MAILS?
'SUPPOSEDLY'.
Julian Assange, the man who exposed all of the stolen, leaked e-mails claims all of the information was NOT hacked and given to him by the Russians. He adamantly claims it was given to him by Democratic Party Insiders 'disgusted' with the Party having rigged the election against Bernie and with Hillary's many scandals.
"The consensus that Russia hacked the DNC is at this point very strong, albeit not unanimous," said cybersecurity consultant Matt Tait, who has been critical of Clinton’s email practices. "The consensus that Russia hacked the DNC in support of Trump is, by contrast, plausible, but something for which the jury at this stage is very much still out."
-- POLITIFACT: What we know about Russia's role in the DNC email leak
THE EVIDENCE / TIMLINE:
1. 'It LOOKS like the Tactics the Russians Use'.
"The tactics of the hack resembled traits of two Russian intelligence groups"
- Hardly 'definitive proof'.
2. Belief Guccifer 2.0, who DID have hacked Hillary information, was a Decoy to distract from the REAL Russian Hacking.
3. New York Times has reported that intelligence agencies have "high confidence" regarding the Russian government’s involvement
- The NY Times was exposed as one of the worst of the 'Fake News' media.
- The Intel agencies may have 'high confidence' but do that have 'solid evidence / proof'?
"Translation: The agencies have likely corroborated the technical evidence with other intelligence, like human or financial sources, said Susan Hennessey, a Brookings Institution fellow and a former lawyer for the National Security Agency."
- So they have some very compelling 'circumstantial evidence...no 'smoking gun' or 'confession'.
Politifact goes on to dismiss the 'testimony' of the man who exposed all the stolen information and goes 'all-in' to agree the Russians MUST have done it.
MOTIVE?
"Hennessey’s theory is Russia likely hacked the DNC to conduct standard espionage and then happened upon the emails"
THE DOUBT
"The vast majority of expert commentary seems to agree the Russian government hacked the DNC. But Jeffrey Carr, CEO of cybersecurity firm Taia Global, remains skeptical.
He said many of these technical indicators pointing to Russia are traits that have been publicly outed as Russian previously, so it doesn’t make sense that Russian intelligence agencies would use them again for covert activity.
He also posed the question how "a country known for the world's most sophisticated software engineers" would be so easily caught.
"It makes much more sense to me that the Russian government had nothing to do with this, but that Russian-speaking hackers did it on their own for fun or profit or both," Carr said."
POLITIFACT CONCLUSSION:
"The weight of the evidence favors an explanation that the Russians leaked the documents to favor Trump, so it is more than a conspiracy theory but still speculative," Hennessey said.
What we know about Russia's role in the DNC email leak
"We did not see anything that amounted to altering ballot counts or degrading the ability to report election results, nothing out of the ordinary,” Johnson said during a Washington Post Live event on Tuesday evening. “There’s always a certain amount of noise that goes on there but on election night itself, we didn’t see anything that affected the ballot count. ... “We see no evidence that hacking by any actor altered the ballot count or any cyber actions that deprived people of voting.”
* Jeh Johnson: “No evidence” of hacking electoral machines or ballot counts - Hot Air
POLITIFACT:
DNC E-MAILS?
'SUPPOSEDLY'.
Julian Assange, the man who exposed all of the stolen, leaked e-mails claims all of the information was NOT hacked and given to him by the Russians. He adamantly claims it was given to him by Democratic Party Insiders 'disgusted' with the Party having rigged the election against Bernie and with Hillary's many scandals.
"The consensus that Russia hacked the DNC is at this point very strong, albeit not unanimous," said cybersecurity consultant Matt Tait, who has been critical of Clinton’s email practices. "The consensus that Russia hacked the DNC in support of Trump is, by contrast, plausible, but something for which the jury at this stage is very much still out."
-- POLITIFACT: What we know about Russia's role in the DNC email leak
THE EVIDENCE / TIMLINE:
1. 'It LOOKS like the Tactics the Russians Use'.
"The tactics of the hack resembled traits of two Russian intelligence groups"
- Hardly 'definitive proof'.
2. Belief Guccifer 2.0, who DID have hacked Hillary information, was a Decoy to distract from the REAL Russian Hacking.
3. New York Times has reported that intelligence agencies have "high confidence" regarding the Russian government’s involvement
- The NY Times was exposed as one of the worst of the 'Fake News' media.
- The Intel agencies may have 'high confidence' but do that have 'solid evidence / proof'?
"Translation: The agencies have likely corroborated the technical evidence with other intelligence, like human or financial sources, said Susan Hennessey, a Brookings Institution fellow and a former lawyer for the National Security Agency."
- So they have some very compelling 'circumstantial evidence...no 'smoking gun' or 'confession'.
Politifact goes on to dismiss the 'testimony' of the man who exposed all the stolen information and goes 'all-in' to agree the Russians MUST have done it.
MOTIVE?
"Hennessey’s theory is Russia likely hacked the DNC to conduct standard espionage and then happened upon the emails"
THE DOUBT
"The vast majority of expert commentary seems to agree the Russian government hacked the DNC. But Jeffrey Carr, CEO of cybersecurity firm Taia Global, remains skeptical.
He said many of these technical indicators pointing to Russia are traits that have been publicly outed as Russian previously, so it doesn’t make sense that Russian intelligence agencies would use them again for covert activity.
He also posed the question how "a country known for the world's most sophisticated software engineers" would be so easily caught.
"It makes much more sense to me that the Russian government had nothing to do with this, but that Russian-speaking hackers did it on their own for fun or profit or both," Carr said."
POLITIFACT CONCLUSSION:
"The weight of the evidence favors an explanation that the Russians leaked the documents to favor Trump, so it is more than a conspiracy theory but still speculative," Hennessey said.
What we know about Russia's role in the DNC email leak
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