Are Rich Hollywood, Sports, Music, And Other Celebrities Any Different Than Rich CEO's?

[Independent thinker]

Treatment that I describe is for far more than a heart attack. A car crash, etc. No one can sit and go through a handbook while the health care providers get your OK based upon your coverage.

Well, a car crash isn't even covered by health insurance.

 

[Independent thinker]

I know of zero healthcare plans that would deny treatment for injuries in a car crash.

Probably a lot of them won't cover transgender surgery and other elective things like that though.

Do you always strain at gnats this hard? You might discuss that with your healthcare provider.

They just make up shit as they go along.

 

[pknopp]

Well, a car crash isn't even covered by health insurance.

Yes it is.

 

[Independent thinker]

Since you are giving me no information here other than your claim has been denied, I can't evaluate or comment. Sorry.

He doesn't want to tell you the whole story. He's already got his talking points he's sticking to.

 

[Independent thinker]

There are millions and millions of stories out there by people with denied claims. I do not have to prove it to you.

There is a reason so many understood the actions of Luigi.

Of course there are denied claims, in every type of insurance. A company shouldn't have to pay out for things not covered in your policy. You guys want someone with stage four cancer to be able to sign up for a one million dollar life insurance policy and not be denied.

 

[Independent thinker]

Understand the actions of the shooter?

The entitled rich kid who didn't ever have a concern financially, who didn't have to worry about a healthcare bill, who wasn't a customer of United Health, who probably never even met a person denied care.

What's to understand?
He is a ******* murderer. Period.
Nothing to understand or sympathize with.
Those claiming they understand his motives are effectively condoning his actions.
No amount of convenient word play will ever convince me otherwise.

I nominated you for post of the year.

 

[Independent thinker]

I, for one, can't afford them. Even with insurance, several hundred per month isn't always easy to come up with.

Which one can't you afford? What happened to Obamacare? They have subsidies for the poor for both the insurance itself and for out of pocket costs.

 

[Independent thinker]

I want "shareholder value" removed from the equation.

So, you want shareholders to lose money?

 

[Independent thinker]

People shouldn't bank their vacation home on the back of denying people coverage.

No one is denied anything unless it isn't in their policy.

 

[Independent thinker]

we should limit the uncalled for, outrageous profit

What is the definition of "uncalled for outrageous profit"?

Does it vary if a drug costs, on average, $1.3 billion to develop?

Taylor Swift makes an outrageous profit.

 

[pknopp]

So, you want shareholders to lose money?

I don't want shareholders involved in health care at all. But you already know this which is why you asked.

 

[Foxfyre]

He doesn't want to tell you the whole story. He's already got his talking points he's sticking to.

Possibly. I do wish people better understood how insurance works and why it doesn't cover everything. They could save themselves a lot of hassle. Political interests have screwed up a lot of insurance coverages and government meddling has made insurance less affordable than it needs to be. I hope the incoming HHS director will look at that and perhaps Congress can make some suitable necessary adjustments that could remedy some of that.

 

[Independent thinker]

Yes it is.

No, it ultimately is not. If you get in a car crash and you have zero health insurance you are still treated and not denied anything. Ultimately, the auto insurance companies pay the health bills. Actually, you're own auto insurance pays for the healthcare, not health insurance companies. Were you driving around with no auto insurance and the accident was your fault? That could be what your problem actually is.

 

[BULLDOG]

Which one can't you afford? What happened to Obamacare? They have subsidies for the poor for both the insurance itself and for out of pocket costs.

You don't know how healthcare works, do you? Just another example of MAGA misrepresentation.

 

[Crepitus]

Sure they did.

How?

 

[Independent thinker]

You don't know how healthcare works, do you? Just another example of MAGA misrepresentation.

I know what the left tell me, Obamacare has subsidies for both premiums and out of pocket costs. Are you saying that is a lie?

 

[BULLDOG]

I know what the left tell me, Obamacare has subsidies for both premiums and out of pocket costs. Are you saying that is a lie?

I'm saying it doesn't cover everything. Healthcare is much more affordable than it once was, but it doesn't cover everything, and it's not free.

 

[BULLDOG]

No, it ultimately is not. If you get in a car crash and you have zero health insurance you are still treated and not denied anything. Ultimately, the auto insurance companies pay the health bills. Actually, you're own auto insurance pays for the healthcare, not health insurance companies. Were you driving around with no auto insurance and the accident was your fault? That could be what your problem actually is.

Yes. Emergency rooms will patch you up, stop the bleeding. They take care of immediate risks. However, if you have something that requires more than the immediate care you receive in the emergency room, the hospital doesn't cover that. They will get you through a heart attack but are not responsible for continuing care needed after the heart attack or any other long-term illness like diabetes or COPD.

 

[Independent thinker]

I don't idolize greed.

How did Oprah and Taylor Swift get so rich?

 

[Independent thinker]

And you don't understand reality.

The reality in their minds is socialism. No one should have the "American Dream".