Are Republicans "trying" to lose the 2016 presidential race?

[Harry Dresden]

It sure seems that way. Of course the "conservatives" will tell you the reason they keep losing is because they haven't been "conservative" enough...a position not borne out by a single poll, but I think they should go with that plan anyway. Be MORE conservative. That'll do it!

you look at too many polls Wytch.....how many Democrats in this State said they were for gay marriage until they voted yes on Prop 8?....

 

[bodecea]

The LEFT and their flaming vagina agenda. Support the slaughterhouses for babies at all costs, even as a baby takes his or her first breath or you will lose elections. Sickest most vile evil...

the Stuttering Clusterfukk is very lucky.

Right after Labor Day of 2008, McCain had a slight edge over the Stuttering Clusterfukk.

Then the Financial Collapse happened and it was all over.

In 2012, Romney had a slight lead, then Hurricane Sandy happened and obama started acting like the demagogue he is. Fatass Chris Christie didn't help matters by giving him a fat hug.

Then Fatass Candy Crowley and the DISGUSTING FILTH in the LSM helped him by flat-out ******* lying on National TV during the 2nd debate.

After those two events, it was over

There are other reasons why Romney lost but one of the most important reasons is this..... And it's all connected

dimocraps are the best campaigners on Earth because they will tell ANY lie, make ANY promise, break any promise, commit ANY fraud, cheat, steal....

The qualities it takes to be excellent campaigners, and the dimocraps are the best that's ever been, are the exact opposite opposite of what it takes to be effective at governing.

dimocraps are slimey, dishonest, untrustworthy, unreliable, untruthful...

And in a short-term campaign, that makes them VERY difficult to beat if all you got is truth, honesty and good will.

Especially when the dimocraps have the DISGUSTING FILTH in the LSM lying for them a hundred times a day.

Interesting fantasy you've woven there.

 

[rightwinger]

It sure seems that way. Of course the "conservatives" will tell you the reason they keep losing is because they haven't been "conservative" enough...a position not borne out by a single poll, but I think they should go with that plan anyway. Be MORE conservative. That'll do it!

you look at too many polls Wytch.....how many Democrats in this State said they were for gay marriage until they voted yes on Prop 8?....

How many would vote the same today?

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

I told you.

I can only speak, I can't make you listen.

I'm done on this topic. Have a good one

Don't run from the truth.. there's nothing conservative about that. It's the leftist way. You have to confront the absolute truth about this FAILED GOVERNMENT'S foreign policy and it starts by asking the hard question: What was accomplished through the sacrifice of American fathers, sons, daughters, mothers in Afghanistan?? You never answered because nothing was accomplished except pain and people never seeing their children grow up.. I will never support that and call it HONOR and while I honor them and their great sacrifice, I will never support the policy of expendable American deaths.

Last one. Call it an encore.

What will be accomplished by withdrawing from the War?

Will it bring back the dead? Will it cause the wounded and maimed to heal?

No. What it will do is cause the families of the men and women who died to think their Sons, Daughters, Husbands, Wives, Sisters and Brothers died for....

Nothing.

Maybe the Stuttering Clusterfukk can send them all a note, "Please accept a sincere and heartfelt 'oopsie'"

IOW, sucks to be you.

I'm sure the men and women missing limbs, blinded and suffering through life every day won't mind. "Hey guys and gals! Your sacrifices in Asscrackistan? Don't mean shit. Here's a quarter, call someone who gives a ****."

So we're going to tell brave men and women, the families of dead heroes and heroines, that their sacrifice was all just a big mistake?

Is that it?

They didn't ASK to go to Afghanistan. At least, the sane ones didn't. They were ordered to go there, they saluted and said, "Yes, Sir!" and they went.

Now you want to tell them to take a chill pill?

Why? It's almost over anyway. The real fighting is almost done. And you want to run off and pretend none of it ever happened?

Why?

Most of the Afghanis didn't ask to have American Troops walking all over them, bombing their Villages, sending drones after their crazy Uncle Ahmed, killing their goats and telling their daughters to go to school and get an education.

Know what's going to happen to those girls when American Troops are gone? Know what happens to them a lot of times now?

Talk about heroes. Some of us could learn a lesson about bravery from those young girls who risk their lives going to school.

Point is this... Maybe we shouldn't have gone into Afghanistan. Or Iraq. Or Viet Nam. Or.... Wherever.

But we did. Nothing you say, nothing you do can change that. Nothing.

Now we need to concern ourselves about the tragedies that will occur if we pull out and leave these people, undefended, to fend for themselves.

THAT is the opposite of Honor.

I actually agree with most of what you said and feel the passion in which you defend our countrymen and their honor.. You are spot on .... HOWEVER.... forcing them to remain in the killing fields of Afghanistan which has accomplished NOTHING only bleeds the flag crimson and takes a precious life for a political agenda which Afghanistan is. THE ROE has NEVER supported our troops.. they were sent in without the ability to defend themselves.. but staying that course does what exactly? I won't blindly support war and death just to support the death of more Americans..

 

[whitehall]

How many times do you see the (translated) political slogan, "I would vote republican if they were more like democrats"? The problem for fake republicans is that they don't think, they just react emotionally. Who in their right mind would want to promote a horrible procedure of stabbing a full term baby in the back of the head and sucking out it's brain while it was still alive? Nobody, but left wingers have the luxury of not thinking about it. Who in their right mind would want to open our borders without any scrutiny? Nobody, but left wingers and pretend republicans don't bother thinking about it.

 

[rightwinger]

funny how the dem/libs are moaning about the demise of the GOP. These idiots would prefer a one party dictatorship to a system where all viewpoints get air time.

They are so stupid that they support our pravda-like biased media.

be careful what you wish for libtards.

I would like to see a return of the old Republican Party that I could vote for

So would most moderates

What is a moderate? Someone with no core values or a republican who agrees with everything democrats stand for?

Actually, a moderate has political views that cross multiple spectrums

A moderate can believe in balancing a budget with both spending cuts and tax increases
A moderate can be socially liberal and fiscally conservative
A moderate can support social programs and be strong on defense

The republican shift to the right and insistence on strict adherence to core conservative values have left moderates with no other option but middle/left candidates because there is no middle/right

 

[Edgetho]

How many times do you see the (translated) political slogan, "I would vote republican if they were more like democrats"? The problem for fake republicans is that they don't think, they just react emotionally. Who in their right mind would want to promote a horrible procedure of stabbing a full term baby in the back of the head and sucking out it's brain while it was still alive? Nobody, but left wingers have the luxury of not thinking about it. Who in their right mind would want to open our borders without any scrutiny? Nobody, but left wingers and pretend republicans don't bother thinking about it.

This is common among the mentally ill, the left and the criminal element in our society (about the same, all of them).

"I wouldn't have stolen that money except for....."

"I wouldn't have mugged that Lady, except for......."

"I wouldn't have sold my vote except for......."

lefties live in a pretend world.

They have to convince themselves that what they do, even though they know it's wrong, they're forced to do because.....................

It's called 'mental illness'

And it resides on the left

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

I would like to see a return of the old Republican Party that I could vote for

So would most moderates

What is a moderate? Someone with no core values or a republican who agrees with everything democrats stand for?

Actually, a moderate has political views that cross multiple spectrums

A moderate can believe in balancing a budget with both spending cuts and tax increases
A moderate can be socially liberal and fiscally conservative
A moderate can support social programs and be strong on defense

The republican shift to the right and insistence on strict adherence to core conservative values have left moderates with no other option but middle/left candidates because there is no middle/right

What a load of CRAP. If LIBERALS truly supported CHOICE they would allow the people to decide, right? Pro-choice isn't what liberals determine as to their belief system.. Pro-choice is actually about the FREEDOM TO CHOOSE.. Throw it to the States and allow the people to choose.. then respect that decision. Liberalism is predicated upon a false premise of choice.. ITS ANYTHING BUT..

liberalism: Our way or the highway... from what you can drink, what can you eat, etc.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I'm an independent. I don't stick with just one party. Sometimes I vote Republican and sometimes I vote Democrat or Independent. However, with the last couple of elections, I just couldn't see myself ever voting Republican again. They've gone so far to the right that they've become absurd. We are a nation of differing beliefs. We've had a large influx of asians and hispanics. Hispanics tend to be very Catholic and the asians tend to be Buddhists. While Buddhism is lumped into the world's religions, it is actually a philosphy, not a religion. Add to this, there is a decline among americans as church-goers.
By the Republican party clinging to the extreme-right religious types, racists and sexists, they are just ensuring that they will not get elected again.

I am still in the same boat as you. I have never voted a straight ticket and still lean Republican in local elections. The national Republican Party drove me away in the mid 90s and I have not considered going back since

It basically comes down to looking at who represents the GOP at the national level and saying......Do I want to belong to this?

The Republican brand is getting killed nationwide

Bwhahahahahaha Hahahahahahahaha LOL Hahahahaha Do you think anyone believes that crap???!!!

yea i do.....RW has been saying that as long as i have been here.....he does not like the Republicans at the National level.....the local republicans he does not mind.....its the same were i am at.....the local guys don't seem to be as fucked as the national Politicians.....my local Rep Loretta Sanchez (D) is like a whole different party compared to many City and County Democrats......these locals actually get things going here.....Sanchez?....i dont know what she has ever brought home here from DC.....

 

[bodecea]

the Stuttering Clusterfukk is very lucky.

Right after Labor Day of 2008, McCain had a slight edge over the Stuttering Clusterfukk.

Then the Financial Collapse happened and it was all over.

In 2012, Romney had a slight lead, then Hurricane Sandy happened and obama started acting like the demagogue he is. Fatass Chris Christie didn't help matters by giving him a fat hug.

Then Fatass Candy Crowley and the DISGUSTING FILTH in the LSM helped him by flat-out ******* lying on National TV during the 2nd debate.

After those two events, it was over

There are other reasons why Romney lost but one of the most important reasons is this..... And it's all connected

dimocraps are the best campaigners on Earth because they will tell ANY lie, make ANY promise, break any promise, commit ANY fraud, cheat, steal....

The qualities it takes to be excellent campaigners, and the dimocraps are the best that's ever been, are the exact opposite opposite of what it takes to be effective at governing.

dimocraps are slimey, dishonest, untrustworthy, unreliable, untruthful...

And in a short-term campaign, that makes them VERY difficult to beat if all you got is truth, honesty and good will.

Especially when the dimocraps have the DISGUSTING FILTH in the LSM lying for them a hundred times a day.

Rampant denial....

Another reason Republicans will never win another Presidential election

I remember Republicans saying the same exact thing about dimocraps in 1992.

Immediately after Iraq War I, Bush 41 had an approval rating of 75%.

The only reason Bill the rapist Clinton won the dimocrap nomination in 1992 was because everybody thought Bush 41 was unbeatable and the Big Boys in the dimocrap party stayed home because they didn't want to get humiliated.

Stay arrogant, fool.

It was "the economy, stupid". But keep weaving that fantasy.

 

[Harry Dresden]

What has been accomplished by the deaths of American heroes in Afghanistan?

nothing.....they will still spit in our faces no matter what we do for them....get those guys out of there,the job is done......

 

[bodecea]

Oh? Is it now at 18 or 16 weeks? I hadn't seen that. Do you have a link?

I was referring to these state laws that also seek to close all the clinics in the states. And yes, the "official" GOP platform is to seek legislation outlawing ALL abortions.

GOP Approves Strict Anti-Abortion Language in Platform

This is rich.. A lesbian obsessed with slaughtering kids.. She can't have one so why should she care if anyone else does?!

I believe Seawytch has children...as do I. And we're married too. (not to each other, of course)

 

[Harry Dresden]

funny how the dem/libs are moaning about the demise of the GOP. These idiots would prefer a one party dictatorship to a system where all viewpoints get air time.

They are so stupid that they support our pravda-like biased media.

be careful what you wish for libtards.

I would like to see a return of the old Republican Party that I could vote for

So would most moderates

What is a moderate? Someone with no core values or a republican who agrees with everything democrats stand for?

its a person who can actually get along with someone who has different ideas and work something out so both of them can live in the same area.....something the Far Left and Right have no comprehension of.....hence why this Country is in the shape it is in....

 

[Harry Dresden]

God knows they tried...

But Republican smears against Obama were so amateurish that the public just scoffed at them

the problem is the GOP actually took the high road compared the the dims

video/audio of "typical white person"

"the cops acted stupidly"

rev Wright should have been aired 24/7

Rev Wright was one of those amateurish smears that go nowhere with the electorate. So were birth certificates, Michelle is not proud of America, Obama hates America, Obama is not a "Real American" and countless others

both sides do a fairly shitty job of defending themselves as far as i am concerned....the Republicans make themselves look like the Democrats say they are by some of the responses they give and vice versa.....

 

[whitehall]

When reasonable democrats say "I'd be a republican ...but" they are really saying "I can't defend the policies of the current administration but peer pressure causes me to be pro-abortion even though I have no idea why I should promote the killing of full term infants".

 

[rightwinger]

When reasonable democrats say "I'd be a republican ...but" they are really saying "I can't defend the policies of the current administration but peer pressure causes me to be pro-abortion even though I have no idea why I should promote the killing of full term infants".

Actually, it means....I would vote Republican but they are too batshit crazy right now to even consider

 

[Harry Dresden]

It sure seems that way. Of course the "conservatives" will tell you the reason they keep losing is because they haven't been "conservative" enough...a position not borne out by a single poll, but I think they should go with that plan anyway. Be MORE conservative. That'll do it!

you look at too many polls Wytch.....how many Democrats in this State said they were for gay marriage until they voted yes on Prop 8?....

How many would vote the same today?

i sure as hell would not trust them to unless i SEE them vote for it....all this proposition stuff was not necessary....people were slowly but surly accepting things...on their own.....by now the majority of people would be on the plus side......hammering people just turns many away....this court thing i am sure has.....i know a few who were ready to say **** it.....now its **** it the other way.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

How many times do you see the (translated) political slogan, "I would vote republican if they were more like democrats"? The problem for fake republicans is that they don't think, they just react emotionally. Who in their right mind would want to promote a horrible procedure of stabbing a full term baby in the back of the head and sucking out it's brain while it was still alive? Nobody, but left wingers have the luxury of not thinking about it. Who in their right mind would want to open our borders without any scrutiny? Nobody, but left wingers and pretend republicans don't bother thinking about it.

come to S.Cal.....you will see quit a few Democrats who DO NOT want open borders and are against Illegal Immigration......they would at least like to see the amount of people coming in cut down considerably and would like to know who they are.....and a hell of a lot of them are American born Mexicans......

 

[Harry Dresden]

I would like to see a return of the old Republican Party that I could vote for

So would most moderates

What is a moderate? Someone with no core values or a republican who agrees with everything democrats stand for?

Actually, a moderate has political views that cross multiple spectrums

A moderate can believe in balancing a budget with both spending cuts and tax increases
A moderate can be socially liberal and fiscally conservative
A moderate can support social programs and be strong on defense

The republican shift to the right and insistence on strict adherence to core conservative values have left moderates with no other option but middle/left candidates because there is no middle/right

or just leave the ******* party and vote for whoever you want to.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

How many times do you see the (translated) political slogan, "I would vote republican if they were more like democrats"? The problem for fake republicans is that they don't think, they just react emotionally. Who in their right mind would want to promote a horrible procedure of stabbing a full term baby in the back of the head and sucking out it's brain while it was still alive? Nobody, but left wingers have the luxury of not thinking about it. Who in their right mind would want to open our borders without any scrutiny? Nobody, but left wingers and pretend republicans don't bother thinking about it.

This is common among the mentally ill, the left and the criminal element in our society (about the same, all of them).

"I wouldn't have stolen that money except for....."

"I wouldn't have mugged that Lady, except for......."

"I wouldn't have sold my vote except for......."

lefties live in a pretend world.

They have to convince themselves that what they do, even though they know it's wrong, they're forced to do because.....................

It's called 'mental illness'

And it resides on the left

lots in the far right are kinda disturbed too.....dont kid yourself....