Are propane vehicles already turning deserts green?

Are propane vehicles assisting with Greening Deserts?

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A co-worker told me this week that the propane vehicle that I am driving produces H2O as an exhaust.

That really got me thinking and thinking and thinking back to 2007 when New Mexico biologist and bicycling Coach Carl Cantrell and I put in submissions for the "Virgin Earth Challenge" based on an alternative theory on how best to stabilize the climate.

[Dennis Tate] :​


"We can Stop Global Warming and we can keep our school!"

September 15, 2008

Dear residents of Indian Harbour Lake, Sonora and Wine Harbour: I am campaigning for the office of Municipal Councilor for St. Mary's District 4.

There are three primary threats to the quality of life for all of us who live here. High unemployment will probably force most of our young people to move far away to find jobs. Because of government cut backs St. Mary's Educational Centre may be closed as early as 2011. In the near future record high tides may devastate our roads and homes that are only a few feet above sea level. We are being told that there is little that you and I can do about any of these problems but this is simply not true.

Satellite pictures show rapid melting of Arctic ice but only about ten percent is above water level. Ice occupies more space than liquid water so until now we have experienced rather little ocean level rise. Our situation will be entirely different if and when melting occurs in the massive ice pack on Greenland and Antarctica that sit on land.

I am in agreement with environmentalist and economist Bjorn Lomborg that a carbon shift policy will probably be ineffective over the short term in combating global temperature increases or in preventing a destructive rise in world ocean levels.

"Bjorn Lomborg argues that many of the elaborate and expensive actions now being considered to stop global warming will cost hundreds of billions of dollars, are often based on emotional rather than strictly scientific assumptions, and may very well have little impact on the world's temperature for hundreds of years." (lomborg.com/coolit/)

Two effective methods to combat global warming and simultaneously fight rising ocean levels have been proposed by New Mexico biologist Carl Cantrell.
"So how is our problem of continental drying causing global warming? It all has to do with vegetation and sunlight. When sun light hits a plant, it causes a process which we call photosynthesis where the energy from the sun light creates oxygen for us to breathe, water for us to drink, and is stored as sugar for plants and animals to use. When the same sun light hits the soil, all of its energy turns into heat and is radiated back into the atmosphere.. ."

"Therefore, the less vegetation you have on the planet, the more sunlight is being turned into heat and the warmer the planet becomes...."

"Just take a look at any satellite picture of the earth showing heat and you will see that our deserts are the warmest spots on the planet by far. More heat is being generated by just one of the top four or five deserts than by all of our cities combined.... "

"The truth is that you can do more to decrease global warming by just reducing the average temperature for the Sahara Desert by one or two degrees than if we humans completely quit using fossil fuels and returned to the cave…."

"So, how would you start working to resolve this problem? Easy, cool the deserts and get some vegetation growing on them as soon as possible. But the method is much more complex than that. You have to use the prevailing trade winds in relation to the deserts to get the best results as quickly as possible and it will be extremely expensive…."

"Then we build desalination plants along the coast near these water sheds and pipe water to the tops or ridges of the water sheds…"

"We need to start working on this as soon as possible because, if the planet reaches a point to where it is warming faster than our technology can possibly stop or reverse this warming trend, then our planet is lost and all life will cease to exist on this planet within a relatively short period of time. We will need to start with the largest and hottest deserts because cooling them will have the greatest benefit in the least time (Global Warming II by biologist Carl Cantrell)."

Another promising method to green the deserts is to use hydrogen fuel cell technology to power vehicles in the hottest and driest regions of the earth. Imagine millions of vehicles across the Sahara, the Middle East, near the US Mojave desert and in the outback of Australia all spewing harmless water vapor as exhaust! Rest assured humidity and rainfall will increase in those areas and vegetation will grow.


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"Will world peace begin with immigrants from many nations who go to Canada and find out ways to address the root causes of the conflicts that were going on in the nations that they left?

I am hopeful that this will be the case, for example, immigrants to Canada from the Middle East may be able to turn the world away from the Al Gore Carbon Tax Theory and the Bill Gates, "Innovation to zero" emissions theory, and instead adopt the more down to earth approach to Climate Change advocated in the Jewish, Islamic and Christian scriptures as well as by a New Mexico biologist and coach.

Here is an ancient Islamic prediction that sounds like a brilliant response to both the threat of rising ocean levels... as well as to the Economic Crisis that it appears some influential people seem to want to occur."

Book 005, Number 2208:
"Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying: The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and cannot find anyone to accept it from him and till the land of Arabia becomes meadows and rivers."
SAHIH MUSLIM, BOOK 25: The Book on General Behaviour (Kitab Al-Adab)




 
A co-worker told me this week that the propane vehicle that I am driving produces H2O as an exhaust.

That really got me thinking and thinking and thinking back to 2007 when New Mexico biologist and bicycling Coach Carl Cantrell and I put in submissions for the "Virgin Earth Challenge" based on an alternative theory on how best to stabilize the climate.






Propane and natural gas burn very clean
 
Propane and natural gas burn very clean

Exactly!

And the fact that a propane vehicle produces H2O for exhaust should increase the level of atmospheric Hydrogen Oxide in the air in nations with lots of desert!


Hydrogen oxide is a common, systematic name for water (
�2�
), a vital inorganic compound composed of two hydrogen atoms covalently bonded to one oxygen atom. As a polar molecule, it is a colorless, odorless, tasteless liquid essential for life on Earth, acting as a universal solvent. It is also known as oxidane
 
CO2 fights desertification.

I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU MUHAMMED!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, many of the world's deserts are becoming greener, a phenomenon driven primarily by increased atmospheric
CO2
levels, which boost plant photosynthesis and water-use efficiency. While this "CO2 fertilization" effect stimulates growth in arid regions, this greening is also driven by increased rainfall and human-driven agricultural expansion in certain areas.
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  • Key Drivers: Rising
    CO2
    levels allow plants to use water more efficiently, leading to increased foliage. In regions like the Thar Desert and parts of the Sahara, higher monsoon rainfall has also contributed significantly.
  • Evidence of Greening: Studies, including those by the CSIRO, have shown that arid areas have increased in vegetation cover over the past few decades.
  • Regional Examples: The Thar Desert saw a 38% increase in vegetation from 2001-2023, while parts of the Sahara have experienced significantly more rainfall and vegetation than normal.
  • Ecological Impact: While this trend might seem positive, it is complex. It can lead to the invasion of non-native species, increase the risk of wildfires due to more fuel, and potentially deplete scarce, non-renewable groundwater resources, say researchers in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists.
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In essence, while deserts are technically becoming "greener," it is a shift that signals a significant change in ecological balance rather than a purely beneficial environmental recovery.
 

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