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So I just bought a brand spanking new hybrid SUV for my wife. South Korean company. Great gas mileage. Still costs close to $40k (too expensive) because my better half 'just had to have' a certain trim level package. Whatever,.It's what she wanted, and she got it. So far, very, very nice fit and finish. Interior materials (leather seats, shiny plastic) are way higher quality then I ever expected. The entire dash is digital, and the entertainment system easily connects to my mobile device and even charges it. Rocking the fucking future, right? Meh. I have that tech in my '97 Jeep. It's seems the aftermarket tech has taken over new vehicles now. :dunno:

My family has several vehicles. I bought a new truck last year. Average age of the rest (non new) of our vehicles? 19.5 yrs. old. I've personally wrenched on all of them.

So, this new hybrid SUV is supposed to be 'the future' to a genuine knuckledagger like me. So far, it pretty much seems to be a mobile phone on 4 wheels. When the dealer's 'instruction' was to immediately pair my mobile device to it to get 'the full experience' of this vehicle, I realized how out of touch with a new hybrid (and apparently, new cars in general now) I truly was. My wife asked me to drive it. The car has a push button start. I pushed the button, nothing happens. I push it again. And again. And again like a mental patient. What a fucking piece of shit, right?

Wrong. The car is a hybrid. It pretty much starts out in electric mode, and I'm a complete dope. I just needed to move the shiny 'transmission' selector knob to 'D', and It was ready to go the whole time! Cool. :113: Yes, I'm quite stupid at times.

The presentation of the tech when sitting in the car is impressive, but can be a bit of a sensory overload. There are oodles of unnecessary shit (to me, but remember, I'm a complete dope ^^) in this automobile. There are so many computer controlled options, and little to no manual options. Did I need a daily affirmation from my car that I made the right choice in buying this car? Fuck no. Would I like lane assistance, computer controlled cruise control (including braking) , and passenger alert assist? Fuck no. Would I like to call 911, or speak to a live representative? How about neither. Let me further illustrate, this car has passenger alert assist. Am I driving an 18-wheeler? No. But this car seems to think it's smarter than it's driver.

And it probably is, who knows. Stay tuned. I'll update the experience with it when I can. I like simple. Wife likes other.
 

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Yes. We know the con. I just paid off my 2016 Rogue. Last car.
 

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And a push button AM-only radio!

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So I just bought a brand spanking new hybrid SUV for my wife. South Korean company. Great gas mileage. Still costs close to $40k (too expensive) because my better half 'just had to have' a certain trim level package. Whatever,.It's what she wanted, and she got it. So far, very, very nice fit and finish. Interior materials (leather seats, shiny plastic) are way higher quality then I ever expected. The entire dash is digital, and the entertainment system easily connects to my mobile device and even charges it. Rocking the fucking future, right? Meh. I have that tech in my '97 Jeep. It's seems the aftermarket tech has taken over new vehicles now. :dunno:

My family has several vehicles. I bought a new truck last year. Average age of the rest (non new) of our vehicles? 19.5 yrs. old. I've personally wrenched on all of them.

So, this new hybrid SUV is supposed to be 'the future' to a genuine knuckledagger like me. So far, it pretty much seems to be a mobile phone on 4 wheels. When the dealer's 'instruction' was to immediately pair my mobile device to it to get 'the full experience' of this vehicle, I realized how out of touch with a new hybrid (and apparently, new cars in general now) I truly was. My wife asked me to drive it. The car has a push button start. I pushed the button, nothing happens. I push it again. And again. And again like a mental patient. What a fucking piece of shit, right?

Wrong. The car is a hybrid. It pretty much starts out in electric mode, and I'm a complete dope. I just needed to move the shiny 'transmission' selector knob to 'D', and It was ready to go the whole time! Cool. :113: Yes, I'm quite stupid at times.

The presentation of the tech when sitting in the car is impressive, but can be a bit othe f a sensory overload. There are oodles of unnecessary shit (to me, but remember, I'm a complete dope ^^) in this automobile. There are so many computer controlled options, and little to no manual options. Did I need a daily affirmation from my car that I made the right choice in buying this car? Fuck no. Would I like lane assistance, computer controlled cruise control (including braking) , and passenger alert assist? Fuck no. Would I like to call 911, or speak to a live representative? How about neither. Let me further illustrate, this car has passenger alert assist. Am I driving an 18-wheeler? No. But this car seems to think it's smarter than it's driver.

And it probably is, who knows. Stay tuned. I'll update the experience with it when I can. I like simple. Wife likes other.
Good post! So I'm guessing it's a Kia? I'll be interested to read what you thing of it. My wife's car is a 2005 Lexus which has been a fantastic car but getting way old.
 

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Good post! So I'm guessing it's a Kia? I'll be interested to read what you thing of it. My wife's car is a 2005 Lexus which has been a fantastic car but getting way old.
One of mine is a 2003 Lexus LS430. Still a fantastic beast at 19 years old.
 

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So I just bought a brand spanking new hybrid SUV for my wife. South Korean company. Great gas mileage. Still costs close to $40k (too expensive) because my better half 'just had to have' a certain trim level package. Whatever,.It's what she wanted, and she got it. So far, very, very nice fit and finish. Interior materials (leather seats, shiny plastic) are way higher quality then I ever expected. The entire dash is digital, and the entertainment system easily connects to my mobile device and even charges it. Rocking the fucking future, right? Meh. I have that tech in my '97 Jeep. It's seems the aftermarket tech has taken over new vehicles now. :dunno:

My family has several vehicles. I bought a new truck last year. Average age of the rest (non new) of our vehicles? 19.5 yrs. old. I've personally wrenched on all of them.

So, this new hybrid SUV is supposed to be 'the future' to a genuine knuckledagger like me. So far, it pretty much seems to be a mobile phone on 4 wheels. When the dealer's 'instruction' was to immediately pair my mobile device to it to get 'the full experience' of this vehicle, I realized how out of touch with a new hybrid (and apparently, new cars in general now) I truly was. My wife asked me to drive it. The car has a push button start. I pushed the button, nothing happens. I push it again. And again. And again like a mental patient. What a fucking piece of shit, right?

Wrong. The car is a hybrid. It pretty much starts out in electric mode, and I'm a complete dope. I just needed to move the shiny 'transmission' selector knob to 'D', and It was ready to go the whole time! Cool. :113: Yes, I'm quite stupid at times.

The presentation of the tech when sitting in the car is impressive, but can be a bit of a sensory overload. There are oodles of unnecessary shit (to me, but remember, I'm a complete dope ^^) in this automobile. There are so many computer controlled options, and little to no manual options. Did I need a daily affirmation from my car that I made the right choice in buying this car? Fuck no. Would I like lane assistance, computer controlled cruise control (including braking) , and passenger alert assist? Fuck no. Would I like to call 911, or speak to a live representative? How about neither. Let me further illustrate, this car has passenger alert assist. Am I driving an 18-wheeler? No. But this car seems to think it's smarter than it's driver.

And it probably is, who knows. Stay tuned. I'll update the experience with it when I can. I like simple. Wife likes other.
It's heartwarming when leftwingers enjoy the fruits of capitalism. Just remember where it came from. Not from frickin' socialists.
 
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Yes. We know the con. I just paid off my 2016 Rogue. Last car.
Fair enough. No offense intended, but the Rouge (And yes, I call them 'Rouges') is the epitome of disposable car to me. I have experience with cars, I'm kind of a gear head, but maybe not so much with every modern model's features right up to this second. The one I do have some familiarity with is the Rogue 1st gen. My Uncle had one. I Hated it. But, if the vehicle works for you, then I suppose you're golden.I know several people that own Nissan Rogues. I hate 'em, but I respect what they were practically built for. And they are built on a seemingly pliable shared Murano chassis/platform. The CVT trans Nissan (and other brands) puts in these vehicles sucks. That is basically an over-engineered atv transmission, and they have been found on the down low to completely suck in a full sized SUV, much less a side-by-side. When said vehicle eventually gives up the goat, it will literally be worth pennies.
 

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I only buy used "basic" vehicles. I only need a vehicle that can get me from here to there with minimal exertion.

I don't need to be driving a fucking microwave on wheels! And thats exactly what these new vehicles are. All those 5G waves, radio waves, satellite waves, and other fucking bullshit nobody ever needs in a vehicle!

This is why there are SO many more dangerous fuktards on the roads......they aren't driving a fucking vehicle, they are driving a fucking computer!! Why do stupid people need smart vehicles? Thats not only redundant, it's an Oxymoron!!! When vehicles have become smarter than the driver........the whole of society needs to come to a complete standstill and re-evaluate EVERYTHING!!!!

Even when I was a delivery driver, the vehicles the company bought were what vehicles were designed for!!!
All you need is the brake, gas pedal, shifter, a/c, and if you were lucky enough....a radio. THAT is what a vehicle is. Not these fucking computers on wheels!!

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The more crap they put into these vehicles the more expensive they become and in reality the more failure points they create.
Half of safety recalls are now software glitches and fire hazards from electronic controls.
But then idiots would trust self driving technology...no friggin thanks...
You can't even buy a simple vehicle anymore.
 
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The more crap they put into these vehicles the more expensive they become and in reality the more failure points they create.
Half of safety recalls are now software glitches and fire hazards from electronic controls.
But then idiots would trust self driving technology...no friggin thanks...
You can't even buy a simple vehicle anymore.
You can. But you need to be fucking creative in your build and the actual changes you're looking for have to meet the criteria of the brand you just spent a shitload of money on ordering a vehicle from before they send it off to be built.
 

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Interior materials (leather seats, shiny plastic) are way higher quality then I ever expected.
For 40K?

The entire dash is digital
Deal-killer. The brain is analog and digital displays slow your response time because your brain must stop and interpret them first and convert the numerical representation into an internal, analog one.

So far, it pretty much seems to be a mobile phone on 4 wheels.
Gee, now there is a description of a car I'd want to own! :smoke:

The presentation of the tech when sitting in the car is impressive, but can be a bit of a sensory overload.
Another bad sign. The last thing you want driving is 10,000 bells and whistles all distracting you.

There are so many computer controlled options, and little to no manual options.
Ugh. Basically, it is a car for people who don't know how to drive.
 

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So I just bought a brand spanking new hybrid SUV for my wife. South Korean company. Great gas mileage. Still costs close to $40k (too expensive) because my better half 'just had to have' a certain trim level package. Whatever,.It's what she wanted, and she got it. So far, very, very nice fit and finish. Interior materials (leather seats, shiny plastic) are way higher quality then I ever expected. The entire dash is digital, and the entertainment system easily connects to my mobile device and even charges it. Rocking the fucking future, right? Meh. I have that tech in my '97 Jeep. It's seems the aftermarket tech has taken over new vehicles now. :dunno:

My family has several vehicles. I bought a new truck last year. Average age of the rest (non new) of our vehicles? 19.5 yrs. old. I've personally wrenched on all of them.

So, this new hybrid SUV is supposed to be 'the future' to a genuine knuckledagger like me. So far, it pretty much seems to be a mobile phone on 4 wheels. When the dealer's 'instruction' was to immediately pair my mobile device to it to get 'the full experience' of this vehicle, I realized how out of touch with a new hybrid (and apparently, new cars in general now) I truly was. My wife asked me to drive it. The car has a push button start. I pushed the button, nothing happens. I push it again. And again. And again like a mental patient. What a fucking piece of shit, right?

Wrong. The car is a hybrid. It pretty much starts out in electric mode, and I'm a complete dope. I just needed to move the shiny 'transmission' selector knob to 'D', and It was ready to go the whole time! Cool. :113: Yes, I'm quite stupid at times.

The presentation of the tech when sitting in the car is impressive, but can be a bit of a sensory overload. There are oodles of unnecessary shit (to me, but remember, I'm a complete dope ^^) in this automobile. There are so many computer controlled options, and little to no manual options. Did I need a daily affirmation from my car that I made the right choice in buying this car? Fuck no. Would I like lane assistance, computer controlled cruise control (including braking) , and passenger alert assist? Fuck no. Would I like to call 911, or speak to a live representative? How about neither. Let me further illustrate, this car has passenger alert assist. Am I driving an 18-wheeler? No. But this car seems to think it's smarter than it's driver.

And it probably is, who knows. Stay tuned. I'll update the experience with it when I can. I like simple. Wife likes other.

Great thread man. I love this part about "mobile phone on wheels". Just wait until you're on a nice quiet country backroad and all the warning sirens go off on your collision alert because the shadows of the power wires make it think you're approaching an object at 45 mph, Your life will flash before your eyes and you'll drop that bag of french fries.

Or you try to patch a GPS routing app thru the entertainment system like the dealer told to do and find out you've GOOGLED to death because they have a lock on "add-on" travel apps. I just quit on that and bought a Garmin. Nice quiet UN-googled life now.

OR you're washing your "keyless entry" vehicle with the keys in your pocket and everytime the hose hits the front handles the locks go up and down !!!! Put the keys in the garage and you're good. Just happy the windows didnt roll down on their own while I was hosing it. LOL..



It's actually ALL GREAT. Just annoying the car with an IQ of about 27 is nagging you and bossing you around.
 

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I only buy used "basic" vehicles. I only need a vehicle that can get me from here to there with minimal exertion.

I don't need to be driving a fucking microwave on wheels! And thats exactly what these new vehicles are. All those 5G waves, radio waves, satellite waves, and other fucking bullshit nobody ever needs in a vehicle!

This is why there are SO many more dangerous fuktards on the roads......they aren't driving a fucking vehicle, they are driving a fucking computer!! Why do stupid people need smart vehicles? Thats not only redundant, it's an Oxymoron!!! When vehicles have become smarter than the driver........the whole of society needs to come to a complete standstill and re-evaluate EVERYTHING!!!!

Even when I was a delivery driver, the vehicles the company bought were what vehicles were designed for!!!
All you need is the brake, gas pedal, shifter, a/c, and if you were lucky enough....a radio. THAT is what a vehicle is. Not these fucking computers on wheels!!

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Great thread man. I love this part about "mobile phone on wheels". Just wait until you're on a nice quiet country backroad and all the warning sirens go off on your collision alert because the shadows of the power wires make it think you're approaching an object at 45 mph, Your life will flash before your eyes and you'll drop that bag of french fries.

Or you try to patch a GPS routing app thru the entertainment system like the dealer told to do and find out you've GOOGLED to death because they have a lock on "add-on" travel apps. I just quit on that and bought a Garmin. Nice quiet UN-googled life now.

OR you're washing your "keyless entry" vehicle with the keys in your pocket and everytime the hose hits the front handles the locks go up and down !!!! Put the keys in the garage and you're good. Just happy the windows didnt roll down on their own while I was hosing it. LOL..



It's actually ALL GREAT. Just annoying the car with an IQ of about 27 is nagging you and bossing you around.
Yeah. I have keyless entry and mine does that washing it and headlights come on too.

Then when I use the other vehicle without the keyless I forget and grab handle wondering why it's locked then forget I actually have to put the fob in the ignition like a Flintstone vehicle.

One thing I do like was the stereo has a hard drive and I downloaded all my CD's into the system. That and streaming music are much better than local radio.

The navigation system is from 2011 and outdated and they want 150 bucks for the update. Why? Google maps works on the phone and can broadcast through the stereo.
Spend that much on a vehicle the updates should be free.
 
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Just wait until you're on a nice quiet country backroad and all the warning sirens go off on your collision alert because the shadows of the power wires make it think you're approaching an object at 45 mph
Maybe better yet to not have any of that crap and just learn to open your eyes and look where you are driving? Does anyone really think a car has the ability to be even AS alert to events going on than a human with 5 million years of evolution?

Or you try to patch a GPS routing app thru the entertainment system
All the entertainment system I need is a radio. I prefer to keep most of my attention on the road.

I just quit on that and bought a Garmin.
Gamin Nuvis are the nicest of the three main brands.

OR you're washing your "keyless entry" vehicle with the keys in your pocket
Those key FOBs suck donkey dick. Keyless entry is just more crap to break Many of those FOBs are super hard to change the battery in and I've seen some that you can't even do that, you must return them to the dealer. Worse, I've seen cars that having the FOB stop working, the owner could not find nor figure out how to even start the car manually! Even reading the owners manual and instructions!

It's actually ALL GREAT. Just annoying the car with an IQ of about 27 is nagging you and bossing you around.
Ill never know. I'll never buy a car full of crap that the consumer never asked for nor needs. I bet if you asked customers, 9 out of 10 would say they would rather their car not have all that crap which only makes life harder because some idiot engineer in Detroit thought it would be cool to add and designing it in to justify his job. All of that crap probably adds $10,000 to the price of the car which is already doubled due to government regulations, which means that for $40,000, you are really getting a $10,000 car with $10,000 worth of convoluted electronic crap you don't really want or need that will cause you major grief along the way + another $20,000 just for the government.

Another lemon are the new wheel sensors that alert the driver to low tire pressure that need constant expensive replacement. Never needed such an item in my entire life; all you need to do is LOOK at the freaking tires every time you drive! Just open your eyes and use the brain that God gave you.

No thank you.
 
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