Are Democrats tired of the fight or are they coming around?

[elektra]

Being a Democrat and democracy are not one and the same.

We know, many of us know tyranny when we see it

 

[Moonglow]

You may be right but I hope with all my heart that you are wrong about that. The Democrat Party of today is not the party of our fathers and grandfathers. I am hoping that it has enough people capable of critical thinking to see how failed its policies have been, how rejected those policies are, and are now capable of seeing the MAGA vision as a good and positive thing instead of something to try to kill.

Damn right, they are not, now the KKK hangs with the GOP.

 

[Moonglow]

We know, many of us know tyranny when we see it

You must not with Trump being elected.

 

[elektra]

Hopefully Biden will have the National Guard deployed this time to protect MAGA from the democrats

 

[sartre play]

Hope people are thinking about what's best for our country.
Not just pleased, like its equivalent to winning at a football game.

 

[elektra]

Damn right, they are not, now the KKK hangs with the GOP.

Nice hanging pun

Biden voted for a leader of the KKK to lead the Senate how many times? Four or Five? Biden is closer to the KKK than anybody.

 

[elektra]

You must not with Trump being elected.

What was the worst thing Trump did last time,

 

[westwall]

This essay suggests Democrats are still just as anti-Trump, anti-MAGA as ever but are just weary of fighting the battle. They're tired. And that's why they aren't as loud and noisy as they were in 2016. They are already speculating that the planned D.C. demonstration opposing Trump's inauguration next month won't be anywhere nearly as well attended as it was in 2017.

‘We’re still in this fight’: the resistance to Trump considers its options after bruising election defeat​

Demoralized but unbowed, the opposition ponders its next move as Trump prepares to re-enter the White House

www.theguardian.com

But I wonder.

Is it possible at least some in the TDS crowd, some who have been diehard Democrat supporters, are wishing their party proposed real solutions to problems and issues important to people as the MAGA agenda does?

Is it possible at least some never Trumpers are wishing their party had the positive enthusiasm and real joy in an agenda that is good for America and Americans?

Is it possible that at least some of the hardcore anti-Trump people are taking a second look and realizing how wrong they have been about him and his agenda?

They are merely regrouping, waiting to see what their casualties will be, and will launch their assault on the country anew.

 

[mudwhistle]

I am an American and I want to believe we can be the America the Founders intended again. I won't leave just because things get hard here. I will do what I can to help those who have been given power to make a significant difference in policy and who understand that it isn't government micromanaging everything but rather secured unalienable rights of liberty, choices, options and opportunity that should be the norm. And among those secured rights are the peoples ability to have ethics, values, principles, common sense that made America the greatest nation on Earth and their ability to have that again.

Trust me....even when America is doing well....living in Germany is much healthier and safer.

They don't make their homes out of wood, but steel and stone.
They don't put poison in their food.
They don't push commercials that sell crap that causes your kids to become diabetic before they're 20

 

[Foxfyre]

The loons never learn. Instead of trying to move to the center I expect them to double down on batshit insane.

I would like to think at least some, hopefully most, are capable of finally seeing that abortion rights, while important to them, are not a winning strategy when they object to any moral restrictions on that.

I would like to think at least some, hopefully most, are capable of finally seeing that DEI is not a winning strategy when it promotes the most weird and perverse tiny minorities as a norm, when it denigrates and endangers women by forcing them to accept biological males in their private spaces and sports, when it is considered more important than competence and effectiveness,.

I would like to think at least some, hopefully most, are capable of seeing that it is wrong to force parents to allow their children to transgender, to sever parental rights to have a say in that, to force racist and inappropriate sexual content onto children, especially the very young, to expose children to vulgar, sexually explicit language and gestures in entertainment and parade exhibits etc.

I would like to think at least some, hopefully most, are capable of seeing millions of migrants invading our country as unacceptable/indefensible and to denounce the draining of our resources, the easy access to assault/abuse women and children and traffic them along with tons of dangerous illegal substances, the sharp increase in criminal acts and the danger some present to America and Americans.

I would like to think at least some, hopefully most, are capable of denouncing as unacceptable the waste of seven trillion dollars in four years without being able to show how that money improved the lives of any rank and file Americans.

I would like to think at least some, hopefully most, are capable of appreciating the closest thing to world peace any of us had ever known during the last Trump presidency and who deplore the wars now draining our resources as well as the thousands of bodies piling up even as we teeter on the brink of WWIII.

That is why the Democrats lost the 2024 election.

I would like to think at least some, hopefully most, would now reject those unacceptable policies and see the wisdom and agenda of the MAGA vision as at least an acceptable alternative.

 

[elektra]

Damn right, they are not, now the KKK hangs with the GOP.

Even the KKK is running from the Democrat party. That is crazy. How dirty rotten has the demicrat party gotten that they lose their base?

 

[Foxfyre]

They are merely regrouping, waiting to see what their casualties will be, and will launch their assault on the country anew.

That is of course possible. I can't believe the deep state has given up on its intention to have complete control of this country. But I hope there are enough Democrats that understand and reject that.

 

[westwall]

That is of course possible. I can't believe the deep state has given up on its intention to have complete control of this country. But I hope there are enough Democrats that understand and reject that.

Very few I fear. Very, very few.

 

[Foxfyre]

Trust me....even when America is doing well....living in Germany is much healthier and safer.

They don't make their homes out of wood, but steel and stone.
They don't put poison in their food.
They don't push commercials that sell crap that causes your kids to become diabetic before they're 20

Did you miss that we will have an HHS secretary whose mission is to get the poisons out of our food and medicine? Germany's population is well under 1/3 that of the USA and under 4% of the land area of the USA. Only about 12% of the German population lives in single family housing. Trying to compare the two countries is like comparing New York City to Muleshoe Tx.

But the beauty of the American ideal and Constitution is, short of violating the rights of others to do the same, to live our lives as we please within a rule of law based on social contract. So if Germany is your dream I will wish every blessing for you. I will stay here and fight for the country I love.

 

[elektra]

Trust me....even when America is doing well....living in Germany is much healthier and safer.

Trust me, you do not want to live in today's Germany with the economy in a free fall. You will not like the record high electricity prices or the wind turbines and solar panels in your front yard.
You will not like the little girls raped by immigrants.
You will not like to live in an over crowded tiny state

 

[Mortis]

This essay suggests Democrats are still just as anti-Trump, anti-MAGA as ever but are just weary of fighting the battle. They're tired. And that's why they aren't as loud and noisy as they were in 2016. They are already speculating that the planned D.C. demonstration opposing Trump's inauguration next month won't be anywhere nearly as well attended as it was in 2017.

‘We’re still in this fight’: the resistance to Trump considers its options after bruising election defeat​

Demoralized but unbowed, the opposition ponders its next move as Trump prepares to re-enter the White House

www.theguardian.com

But I wonder.

Is it possible at least some in the TDS crowd, some who have been diehard Democrat supporters, are wishing their party proposed real solutions to problems and issues important to people as the MAGA agenda does?

Is it possible at least some never Trumpers are wishing their party had the positive enthusiasm and real joy in an agenda that is good for America and Americans?

Is it possible that at least some of the hardcore anti-Trump people are taking a second look and realizing how wrong they have been about him and his agenda?

"The apple doesn't fall far from the tree".


There is always one bad apple that will solely do nothing but try and stop Trump. The "Democrat Machine" is starting to crack. They keep this crap up, it's bound to be unfix for many years to come.

 

[Marener]

The people were NOT rioting until they were hit with the rubber bullets and flash bangs. Try to keep up. And on topic please.

Nope. It was a riot. They had already busted through the outer permittee of police and smashed through barriers to reach the Capitol grounds where the police were backed up behind additional barriers that the rioters were pushing against.

They fired nonlethal rounds against them because it was a riot.

 

[Foxfyre]

Very few I fear. Very, very few.

It is tough. When they control most of the message in government, media, entertainment, education, big business, scientific institutions and many religious organizations,. it is easy to screw up the thinking and priorities of many.

But the worm may be turning. Elon Musk buying Twitter at great personal cost to himself and making it a free speech platform helped and in fact may have been a significant factor in the 2024 election. It gave us the chance to get accurate information out there that we didn't have before.

And Mark Zuckerberg had dinner with Trump at Mar-a-lago recently. Maybe there will be a significant policy change at Facebook with its 3+ billion subscribers?

Some news organizations have fired their editorial boards following the election that may signal a return to actual journalism replacing the Democrat propaganda that was the norm.

There will always be the hardcore indoctrinated/manipulated puppets. Actually we need a few of those around to remind us that freedom comes at a cost and must be diligently defended at all times or we lose it.

But I am more hopeful now than I have been in awhile that America has a good chance to again become the country the Founders intended it to be.

 

[Foxfyre]

"The apple doesn't fall far from the tree".


There is always one bad apple that will solely do nothing but try and stop Trump. The "Democrat Machine" is starting to crack. They keep this crap up, it's bound to be unfix for many years to come.

I have been observing those cracks as well and hope they continue to open up. It is the best chance Americans have to again enjoy liberty, choices, options, opportunity as the Founders intended.

 

[Missourian]

As I've been saying for a year...a Trump re-election has shattered the Democrat Party.

Right now they are doing their best to collect the remaining shards and glue what they can back together.

When your entire pitch is "we're not Trump... Trump is a racist, homophobic, twice impeached, convicted felon, rapist, traitor, insurrectionist, fascist, Nazi, Putin-puppet, authoritarian, wanna-be-dictator Hitler-lover!" that you've spent over a decade of time, energy, money trying to destroy ...and shredded the reputations and credibility of every US institution that you control from the media to the Justice Department, the FBI and almost every Intelligence service in the process...

...and then that "racist, homophobic, twice impeached, convicted felon, rapist, traitor, insurrectionist, fascist, Nazi, Putin-puppet, authoritarian, wanna-be-dictator, Hitler-lover" comes back from the edge of the political precipice a beats your fucking ass from coast to fucking coast, wins every swing state...wins the fucking popular vote with a multicultural coalition...wins back the Senate, wins the House and leaves your entire party out in the cold with less consolidated power than a Black-cat firecracker... you either reconsider your life choices, or you become completely irrelevant.

The DANGER comes from the elements that the Democrat Party chooses to prune away...and OUR goal should be focusing those elements anger and rage on those that betrayed them...those that used them until they became a liability and then cast them away like trash.