Appeals Court rules Illegals are ENTITLED to drivers license

Congress should declare a refugee crisis. Countries all over the world have to deal with refugee crisis's. Some time we help cause them. Many countries with far less resources than us find help through the UN, which usually means help through the US.

The new arrivals of children and adults from the gang infested and out of control Central American nations need to be placed in a refugee status and not an immigrant status. It should be made clear that eventually these refugees will have to return to their countries unless they are adopted and transferred by other nations.

We should seek international support for the maintenance of these people. Let the South American countries pay for their maintenance.


Oh BULLSHIT.. That's what the fucking UN said this morning.. it's all a contrived plan with your messiah and you leftists.. Go fuck yourselves.


Lets hear your plan. I'll bet it is something really intellectual and scholarly like, "send them back" or "leave them in the desert".

Here's the law you stupid fuck

Illegal Immigration Laws

Most Americans know our basic laws regarding illegal immigration. It is illegal to enter the United States without permission. The first time an illegal immigrant is caught in the US it is a misdemeanor civil offense. This is because we want to be able to quickly return illegal aliens to Mexico or Canada, when they are caught at the border without the rigors of a jury trial.

After the first offense, being caught a second time is a felony!

It is also against the law to overstay a visa issued by the US Government and illegal for an employer to knowingly hire illegal immigrants.

Our volunteers have compiled this list of illegal immigration laws for your review.

It is Illegal To Bring Illegal Aliens Into US under current Laws
It is unlawful for any person to bring aliens into the United States. Fine: $3,000 for each alien (Sec. 273. [8 U.S.C. 1323])


It is Illegal To Harbor Illegal Immigrants
. It is unlawful to bring in or harbor illegal aliens. Fine: $3,000 for each alien. (Sec. 273. [8 U.S.C. 1323] )


It is Illegal To Employ, Recruit, or Refer Illegal Aliens for Jobs
. It is unlawful for a person or other entity- to employ or recruit or refer for a fee an illegal alien in the United States. Commercial advantage or private financial gain offender can be fined under title 18, US code, imprisoned for not more than 10 years, or both. ...Any person who, during any 12-month period, knowingly hires for employment at least 10 individuals with actual knowledge that the individuals are aliens described in sub paragraph (B) shall be fined under title 18, United States Code, or imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or both. (Sec. 274A. [8 U.S.C. 1324a] )


It is Illegal To Forge Documents for Illegal Immigrants or violate Identity Theft Laws
. It is unlawful for any person or entity knowingly- to forge documents. Legal documents must be presented when entering the US.
( Sec. 274C. [8 U.S.C. 1324c] )
...Fine: not less than $250 and not more than $2,000 for each document that is the subject of a violation.
...Previous violation: not less than $2,000 and not more than $5,000 for each document that is the subject of a violation.


US Laws Declare it is Illegal To Aid or Abet Illegal Immigrants
. It is unlawful for anyone to aid or assist aliens to enter the United States. Penalty: fined under title 18, United States Code, or imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both. ( Sec. 277. [8 U.S.C. 1327] )


LEGAL Immigrants Must Know English, US History, US Laws, and Principles
. No person shall be naturalized as a citizen of the United States who cannot demonstrate: ... An understanding of the English language, including the ability to read, write and and speak words in ordinary usage in the English language.
... A knowledge and understanding of history, and of the principles and form of government, of the United States. ( Sec. 312. [8 U.S.C. 1423] )


Legal Immigrants Must Display Moral Character and No Crime Record
. Requirements as to residence, good moral character, attachment to the principles of the constitution, and favorable disposition to the Untied States. ( Sec. 316. [8 U.S.C. 1427] )


Legal Immigrants Must Be Investigated and Screened for past crimes and terrorism links
. Prior to a person becoming naturalized, or an employee of the service, a personal investigation is required of the individual applying.
( Sec. 335. [8 U.S.C. 1446] )


It is Illegal For Illegal Aliens to Bypass Medical and Physical Exams for illnesses and infectious diseases
. Physical and Mental Examinations are required.
Aliens arriving at ports of the United States will be detained for the purpose of determining whether they are afflicted with any of the diseases or mental or physical defects or disabilities set forth in section 212(a), or whenever the Attorney General has received information showing that any aliens are coming from a country or have embarked at a place where any of such diseases are prevalent or epidemic.
( Sec. 232 [8 U.S.C. 1252] )


Illegal Aliens Deported are ineligible for readmission to US Under Current Laws
. Distressed Aliens:
Any alien who falls into distress or who needs public aid from causes arising prior to his/her entry is desirous of being so removed. Any alien so removed shall be ineligible to apply for or receive a visa or other documentation for readmission, or to apply for admission to the United States except with the prior approval of the Attorney General.
( Sec. 250. [8 U.S.C. 1260] )


It is Illegal for Illegal Immigrants to possess a firearm or ammunition
. It is unlawful for an alien illegally in the United States or an alien admitted to the United States under a non immigrant visa to legally receive or possess firearms and/or ammunition. ( [18 U.S.C. 922(g) and (n), 27 CFR 478.32] )


http://www.endillegalimmigration.com/Illegal_Immigration_Laws/index.shtml
 
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Now why didn't I think of that? That's exactly what these children from violent areas of the world need to see, Americans fighting with the cops and each other in the streets. By God man, I'd better get right to airport and help these kids out...

You have been seeing what has been going on in Murrieta Calif right ?
So far the buses have been turned back, although there is a counter protest of heart bleeders that are losing the fight. They need your help.
No, the Feds just need to start arresting people, all of them. It's pretty convenient actually. They drop off one group at the center, and then fill up the buses again and head to the jail. A win-win...

sounds like a great Idea these morons who are blocking the buses drag them right in kicking and screaming all the way :lol::lol::lol:
 
Oh BULLSHIT.. That's what the fucking UN said this morning.. it's all a contrived plan with your messiah and you leftists.. Go fuck yourselves.


Lets hear your plan. I'll bet it is something really intellectual and scholarly like, "send them back" or "leave them in the desert".

Here's the law you stupid fuck

Illegal Immigration Laws

Most Americans know our basic laws regarding illegal immigration. It is illegal to enter the United States without permission. The first time an illegal immigrant is caught in the US it is a misdemeanor civil offense. This is because we want to be able to quickly return illegal aliens to Mexico or Canada, when they are caught at the border without the rigors of a jury trial.

After the first offense, being caught a second time is a felony!

It is also against the law to overstay a visa issued by the US Government and illegal for an employer to knowingly hire illegal immigrants.

Our volunteers have compiled this list of illegal immigration laws for your review.

It is Illegal To Bring Illegal Aliens Into US under current Laws
It is unlawful for any person to bring aliens into the United States. Fine: $3,000 for each alien (Sec. 273. [8 U.S.C. 1323])


It is Illegal To Harbor Illegal Immigrants
. It is unlawful to bring in or harbor illegal aliens. Fine: $3,000 for each alien. (Sec. 273. [8 U.S.C. 1323] )


It is Illegal To Employ, Recruit, or Refer Illegal Aliens for Jobs
. It is unlawful for a person or other entity- to employ or recruit or refer for a fee an illegal alien in the United States. Commercial advantage or private financial gain offender can be fined under title 18, US code, imprisoned for not more than 10 years, or both. ...Any person who, during any 12-month period, knowingly hires for employment at least 10 individuals with actual knowledge that the individuals are aliens described in sub paragraph (B) shall be fined under title 18, United States Code, or imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or both. (Sec. 274A. [8 U.S.C. 1324a] )


It is Illegal To Forge Documents for Illegal Immigrants or violate Identity Theft Laws
. It is unlawful for any person or entity knowingly- to forge documents. Legal documents must be presented when entering the US.
( Sec. 274C. [8 U.S.C. 1324c] )
...Fine: not less than $250 and not more than $2,000 for each document that is the subject of a violation.
...Previous violation: not less than $2,000 and not more than $5,000 for each document that is the subject of a violation.


US Laws Declare it is Illegal To Aid or Abet Illegal Immigrants
. It is unlawful for anyone to aid or assist aliens to enter the United States. Penalty: fined under title 18, United States Code, or imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both. ( Sec. 277. [8 U.S.C. 1327] )


LEGAL Immigrants Must Know English, US History, US Laws, and Principles
. No person shall be naturalized as a citizen of the United States who cannot demonstrate: ... An understanding of the English language, including the ability to read, write and and speak words in ordinary usage in the English language.
... A knowledge and understanding of history, and of the principles and form of government, of the United States. ( Sec. 312. [8 U.S.C. 1423] )


Legal Immigrants Must Display Moral Character and No Crime Record
. Requirements as to residence, good moral character, attachment to the principles of the constitution, and favorable disposition to the Untied States. ( Sec. 316. [8 U.S.C. 1427] )


Legal Immigrants Must Be Investigated and Screened for past crimes and terrorism links
. Prior to a person becoming naturalized, or an employee of the service, a personal investigation is required of the individual applying.
( Sec. 335. [8 U.S.C. 1446] )


It is Illegal For Illegal Aliens to Bypass Medical and Physical Exams for illnesses and infectious diseases
. Physical and Mental Examinations are required.
Aliens arriving at ports of the United States will be detained for the purpose of determining whether they are afflicted with any of the diseases or mental or physical defects or disabilities set forth in section 212(a), or whenever the Attorney General has received information showing that any aliens are coming from a country or have embarked at a place where any of such diseases are prevalent or epidemic.
( Sec. 232 [8 U.S.C. 1252] )


Illegal Aliens Deported are ineligible for readmission to US Under Current Laws
. Distressed Aliens:
Any alien who falls into distress or who needs public aid from causes arising prior to his/her entry is desirous of being so removed. Any alien so removed shall be ineligible to apply for or receive a visa or other documentation for readmission, or to apply for admission to the United States except with the prior approval of the Attorney General.
( Sec. 250. [8 U.S.C. 1260] )


It is Illegal for Illegal Immigrants to possess a firearm or ammunition
. It is unlawful for an alien illegally in the United States or an alien admitted to the United States under a non immigrant visa to legally receive or possess firearms and/or ammunition. ( [18 U.S.C. 922(g) and (n), 27 CFR 478.32] )


Illegal Immigration Laws

let me check again... for some reason you forgot Obama's exicutive order ... they are laws too .. it clearly says children who were brought into the country illegal can't remove without going to court ... it also says they can now get drivers license .... just because Boehner and his yokles didn't pass it as law, a exicutive order is still law and you can't stand that Idea that a N word out smarted you nut cases ...
 
Oh BULLSHIT.. That's what the fucking UN said this morning.. it's all a contrived plan with your messiah and you leftists.. Go fuck yourselves.


Lets hear your plan. I'll bet it is something really intellectual and scholarly like, "send them back" or "leave them in the desert".

Here's the law you stupid fuck

Illegal Immigration Laws

Most Americans know our basic laws regarding illegal immigration. It is illegal to enter the United States without permission. The first time an illegal immigrant is caught in the US it is a misdemeanor civil offense. This is because we want to be able to quickly return illegal aliens to Mexico or Canada, when they are caught at the border without the rigors of a jury trial.

After the first offense, being caught a second time is a felony!

It is also against the law to overstay a visa issued by the US Government and illegal for an employer to knowingly hire illegal immigrants.

Our volunteers have compiled this list of illegal immigration laws for your review.

It is Illegal To Bring Illegal Aliens Into US under current Laws
It is unlawful for any person to bring aliens into the United States. Fine: $3,000 for each alien (Sec. 273. [8 U.S.C. 1323])


It is Illegal To Harbor Illegal Immigrants
. It is unlawful to bring in or harbor illegal aliens. Fine: $3,000 for each alien. (Sec. 273. [8 U.S.C. 1323] )


It is Illegal To Employ, Recruit, or Refer Illegal Aliens for Jobs
. It is unlawful for a person or other entity- to employ or recruit or refer for a fee an illegal alien in the United States. Commercial advantage or private financial gain offender can be fined under title 18, US code, imprisoned for not more than 10 years, or both. ...Any person who, during any 12-month period, knowingly hires for employment at least 10 individuals with actual knowledge that the individuals are aliens described in sub paragraph (B) shall be fined under title 18, United States Code, or imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or both. (Sec. 274A. [8 U.S.C. 1324a] )


It is Illegal To Forge Documents for Illegal Immigrants or violate Identity Theft Laws
. It is unlawful for any person or entity knowingly- to forge documents. Legal documents must be presented when entering the US.
( Sec. 274C. [8 U.S.C. 1324c] )
...Fine: not less than $250 and not more than $2,000 for each document that is the subject of a violation.
...Previous violation: not less than $2,000 and not more than $5,000 for each document that is the subject of a violation.


US Laws Declare it is Illegal To Aid or Abet Illegal Immigrants
. It is unlawful for anyone to aid or assist aliens to enter the United States. Penalty: fined under title 18, United States Code, or imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both. ( Sec. 277. [8 U.S.C. 1327] )


LEGAL Immigrants Must Know English, US History, US Laws, and Principles
. No person shall be naturalized as a citizen of the United States who cannot demonstrate: ... An understanding of the English language, including the ability to read, write and and speak words in ordinary usage in the English language.
... A knowledge and understanding of history, and of the principles and form of government, of the United States. ( Sec. 312. [8 U.S.C. 1423] )


Legal Immigrants Must Display Moral Character and No Crime Record
. Requirements as to residence, good moral character, attachment to the principles of the constitution, and favorable disposition to the Untied States. ( Sec. 316. [8 U.S.C. 1427] )


Legal Immigrants Must Be Investigated and Screened for past crimes and terrorism links
. Prior to a person becoming naturalized, or an employee of the service, a personal investigation is required of the individual applying.
( Sec. 335. [8 U.S.C. 1446] )


It is Illegal For Illegal Aliens to Bypass Medical and Physical Exams for illnesses and infectious diseases
. Physical and Mental Examinations are required.
Aliens arriving at ports of the United States will be detained for the purpose of determining whether they are afflicted with any of the diseases or mental or physical defects or disabilities set forth in section 212(a), or whenever the Attorney General has received information showing that any aliens are coming from a country or have embarked at a place where any of such diseases are prevalent or epidemic.
( Sec. 232 [8 U.S.C. 1252] )


Illegal Aliens Deported are ineligible for readmission to US Under Current Laws
. Distressed Aliens:
Any alien who falls into distress or who needs public aid from causes arising prior to his/her entry is desirous of being so removed. Any alien so removed shall be ineligible to apply for or receive a visa or other documentation for readmission, or to apply for admission to the United States except with the prior approval of the Attorney General.
( Sec. 250. [8 U.S.C. 1260] )


It is Illegal for Illegal Immigrants to possess a firearm or ammunition
. It is unlawful for an alien illegally in the United States or an alien admitted to the United States under a non immigrant visa to legally receive or possess firearms and/or ammunition. ( [18 U.S.C. 922(g) and (n), 27 CFR 478.32] )


Illegal Immigration Laws

Nowhere in all of that is a solution or even suggestion of a solution. You are a typical whiner. You are able to spot the problem, just like everyone else, but you don't know how to fix the problem. You just know how to complain and try to place blame.
Every law you list can be contested in a court. It is time consuming and expensive. Our courts have ruled that all those charged with any and all of the laws you list has a right to judicial review. In the case of the children from central America, they are seeking asylum and that is a justified reason for seeking immigration and makes many of the laws you have listed as not applicable.
Declaring these persons as refugees rather than immigrants seeking immigration status changes the entire process to one where no expectation of immigration is given or expected. We simply become caretakers until the persons are able to be moved to other countries or returned to their home countries.
Why is that a bad idea?
 
The judges said to treat the Dreamers differently violates the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution.

Read more: Appeals court rules immigrant 'dreamers' can get driver's licenses - Washington Times
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THE 9th Circus is a joke.

Since it seems that they are not going back anytime soon then I am thinking that if they are going to drive then they should be required to first show proficiency in English so we know they can read the signs posted in English. Second they know that this license does not in any way effects their citizenship.

And yes, the 9th circuit court is out to lunch.

Why do you think they call it "The 9th Circus Court"??
 
The judges said to treat the Dreamers differently violates the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution.

Read more: Appeals court rules immigrant 'dreamers' can get driver's licenses - Washington Times
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THE 9th Circus is a joke.

Of course, with a license they can vote - which is why the Khmer Rouge democrats are importing millions of them. The Khmer Rouge knows they will lose on voter ID, so the answer is to give illegals licenses.
 
Reversing "Love it or Leave it" doesn't strengthen the "argument"; this is the Court with jurisdiction, thus Arizona will have to abide, yet, I see the obvious objections to such a ruling.

Arizona will have to abide it until the Supreme Court throws it out. PLUS the question going to the SCOTUS will put Obama's entire illegal contradicting of law passed by the legislature under the spotlight. Expect Dear Leader to take another trip to the woodshed, should this be heard before the fucker is impeached or termed out.
 
Things are going to quickly change in November- more so January.

Would need to take the Senate and with enough to over-ride a presidential veto. Biden would be just as bad as Obama. I don't see this getting better for for three years.

The Obama years will go down in history as the dark age of America.

Your time has come and gone with the demoghric shift, as Lindsay Graham said

“The demographics race we’re losing badly,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (S.C.). “We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.” :eusa_whistle:
 
North Carolina debuts driver's licenses for undocumented immigrants :eusa_whistle:



North Carolina debuts driver's licenses for undocumented immigrants - CNN.com

LOL You bad.. Does that Pat McCrory approved it you think?

It passed the very Conservative republican house and senate and Pat must have signed it

Tillis and Burger are no liberals

Nope.. That they are not. I read in that story that the gentleman who went to get this license has been here for 13 years. I have no problem with someone who has been here and worked hard, followed the laws of this country.. that's who should get amnesty- Not millions upon millions of new illegals.
 
LOL You bad.. Does that Pat McCrory approved it you think?

It passed the very Conservative republican house and senate and Pat must have signed it

Tillis and Burger are no liberals

Nope.. That they are not. I read in that story that the gentleman who went to get this license has been here for 13 years. I have no problem with someone who has been here and worked hard, followed the laws of this country.. that's who should get amnesty- Not millions upon millions of new illegals.

It makes sense, do we what unlicensed uninsured people on the roads?

You know in Eastern NC there is a big Hispanic population, a lot of the are undocumented working in agriculture and construction and as hotel maids and kitchen help
 
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LOL You bad.. Does that Pat McCrory approved it you think?

It passed the very Conservative republican house and senate and Pat must have signed it

Tillis and Burger are no liberals

Nope.. That they are not. I read in that story that the gentleman who went to get this license has been here for 13 years. I have no problem with someone who has been here and worked hard, followed the laws of this country.. that's who should get amnesty- Not millions upon millions of new illegals.

Then we are in agreement
 
It's a liberal nation founded by liberals. If you don't like it, leave...

Why don't we liberals throw you leftists out instead? :dunno:

You're not a Liberal little friend. You've been lied to, and you believed it.

Post some classic Liberal positions on issues and I'll show you how you don't match up. Start with banning Islam, in Angola. Then flag burning, in America.
 
Things are going to quickly change in November- more so January.

Would need to take the Senate and with enough to over-ride a presidential veto. Biden would be just as bad as Obama. I don't see this getting better for for three years.

The Obama years will go down in history as the dark age of America.

Your time has come and gone with the demoghric shift, as Lindsay Graham said

“The demographics race we’re losing badly,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (S.C.). “We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.” :eusa_whistle:

Nah... the problem is to many people are buying into the life should be easy song and dance, and to many don't appear to give a crap that they are going through life as parasites.

The racial demographics of the US are still primarily white.
The Racial Dot Map: One Dot Per Person for the Entire U.S.
 

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