Apparently, trump devotees need a fresher course.

[imawhosure]

Thread 'Putting an end to an ubiquitous meme from Trump loyalists'

Jul 3, 2022

It has been asserted hundreds of times by occupants of Trumpworld........the collusion hoax. It comes up in all manner of contexts. Most recently as a way to dismiss the 1/6 committee's work. Let's see what the facts say.

Manafort conspired with Kilimnik to give the Kremlin internal polling data. US says Russia was given Trump campaign polling data in 2016
Polling data that could have been useful for Putin in targeting Americans with the social media campaign he used to help Don get elected...

• berg80
• Replies: 165
• Forum: Politics

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Myopic focus on the vague word "collusion" and its dubious legal application to the trump/Russia connection have lead to specious assertions that do not hold up to scrutiny.

Hollie brace yourself

Good one Berg. Correct the assertions are bunk as usual another HOAX. This one maybe to take the eyes off Pedo island

Gabbard's Misleading 'Coup' Claim - FactCheck.org

Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard claims to have uncovered "overwhelming evidence" that former President Barack Obama and others in his administration manipulated intelligence to "lay the groundwork for what was essentially a years-long coup against President Trump." But the...

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‘The Trump campaign’s interactions with Russian intelligence services during the 2016 presidential election posed a “grave” counterintelligence threat, a Senate panel concluded Tuesday as it detailed how associates of Donald Trump had regular contact with Russians and expected to benefit from the Kremlin’s help.

The nearly 1,000-page report, the fifth and final one from the Republican-led Senate intelligence committee on the Russia investigation, details how Russia launched an aggressive effort to interfere in the election on Trump’s behalf. It says the Trump campaign chairman had regular contact with a Russian intelligence officer and says other Trump associates were eager to exploit the Kremlin’s aid, particularly by maximizing the impact of the disclosure of Democratic emails hacked by Russian intelligence officers.’

Senate panel finds Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. election

The report purposely does not come to a final conclusion, as the other reports did, about whether there is enough evidence that Trump’s campaign coordinated or colluded with Russia to sway the election, leaving its findings open to partisan interpretation.

www.pbs.org

Trump Cult members don’t care about facts and the truth – they blindly ignore Trump’s crimes and corruption.

We all need pay close attention to these PAID POSTER LEFTISTS, lol!

They listen to the DNC talking points, come on here, and all spew the same bullsh**, while pretending they actually had a thought, and came up with it, hahahahahahahahahaha!

These a**holes NEED YOU to respond, so they can get their Cheerios to eat-)

They are PATHETIC! If they are getting paid 2 cents a post, if the GOP paid them 3, they would flip faster than Flip Wilson!

Want to respond to their BULLSH** threads that they make 15 in one day? Figure out how to NICELY, give them the finger........and LAUGH THEIR LEFTIST PAID POSTER A**es off this board!

Remember---------->there is absolutely no need to try and win a argument you have already won convincingly! They want to re-engage you, because they all look like fools, and want to try find a little tidbit they can re-attack on.

Do you KNOW WHY the LEFT is in shambles-) It is because people do NOT respond to their bullsh**, instead, they want them to answer for the LIES they told. May I suggest, you do the same thing, and hold their little tootsies to the fire-)

 

[berg80]

We all need pay close attention to these PAID POSTER LEFTISTS, lol!

They listen to the DNC talking points, come on here, and all spew the same bullsh**, while pretending they actually had a thought, and came up with it, hahahahahahahahahaha!

These a**holes NEED YOU to respond, so they can get their Cheerios to eat-)

They are PATHETIC! If they are getting paid 2 cents a post, if the GOP paid them 3, they would flip faster than Flip Wilson!

Want to respond to their BULLSH** threads that they make 15 in one day? Figure out how to NICELY, give them the finger........and LAUGH THEIR LEFTIST PAID POSTER A**es off this board!

Remember---------->there is absolutely no need to try and win a argument you have already won convincingly! They want to re-engage you, because they all look like fools, and want to try find a little tidbit they can re-attack on.

Translation; the facts have overwhelmed you so you aren't going to humiliate yourself trying to refute anything I wrote.

 

[BackAgain]

Thread 'Putting an end to an ubiquitous meme from Trump loyalists'

Jul 3, 2022

It has been asserted hundreds of times by occupants of Trumpworld........the collusion hoax. It comes up in all manner of contexts. Most recently as a way to dismiss the 1/6 committee's work. Let's see what the facts say.

Manafort conspired with Kilimnik to give the Kremlin internal polling data. US says Russia was given Trump campaign polling data in 2016
Polling data that could have been useful for Putin in targeting Americans with the social media campaign he used to help Don get elected...

• berg80
• Replies: 165
• Forum: Politics

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Myopic focus on the vague word "collusion" and its dubious legal application to the trump/Russia connection have lead to specious assertions that do not hold up to scrutiny.

Your myopic focus on the fraud establishes you as retarded or dishonest, bug.

Go lecture at Dumbocrap Underground or the Daily Kos where your fellow scumbag libtards will clap for you and your nonsense.

 

[imawhosure]

Translation; the facts have overwhelmed you so you aren't going to humiliate yourself trying to refute anything I wrote.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, BERG, you are so full of sh*, your eyes are brown. I do NOT have to refute your bullsh*, as nobody believes your nonsensical positions anyway.

You are SCREWED PUNK! Even on here where CONSERVATIVES get excited over RUSSIA-RUSSIA-RUSSIA, they are going to LAUGH YOU right off this board-)

 

[berg80]

BAHAHAHAHA!!! Incredible there are STILL Trump Haters clinging to the Russian Collusion Hoax!

Incredible there are still cultists repeating the same debunked talking points.

 

[BackAgain]

Incredible there are still cultists repeating the same debunked talking points.

Yes you are. Your cult is vile. But thankfully, your cult is losing credibility more and more.

 

[berg80]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, BERG, you are so full of sh*, your eyes are brown. I do NOT have to refute your bullsh*, as nobody believes your nonsensical positions anyway.

You are SCREWED PUNK! Even on here where CONSERVATIVES get excited over RUSSIA-RUSSIA-RUSSIA, they are going to LAUGH YOU right off this board-)

You can begin your factual refutation by finding anything you think is wrong about the reported signed, among other Repubs, by Marco Rubio.

A Collusion Reading Diary: What Did the Senate Intelligence Committee Find?

Our summary of the Senate Intelligence Committee’s final report on Russian interference in the 2016 election.

www.lawfaremedia.org

 

[berg80]

LOL. So, now you admit that Trump/Russia collusion was vague? Back then you thought it was a sure thing.

Lies roll off your keyboard like they do from Dotard's lips.

 

[MarathonMike]

Incredible there are still cultists repeating the same debunked talking points.

You clearly do not understand what "debunked" means. Denialism is a dangerous path as evidenced by TDS sufferers on this board.

 

[struth]

You clearly do not understand what "debunked" means. Denialism is a dangerous path as evidenced by TDS sufferers on this board.

It’s a sign of being in a cult. They hold on to debunked lies in face of reality

There is a reason Jim Jones was a Dem

 

[berg80]

You clearly do not understand what "debunked" means. Denialism is a dangerous path as evidenced by TDS sufferers on this board.

I'm still waiting for any of you cucks to back up what you say by refuting the facts I've presented. Care to start here?

The first section of the report concerns Paul Manafort, Trump’s one-time campaign chairman who resigned from the campaign in August 2016 following news reports of his previous work for a pro-Russian Ukrainian political party. Manafort was indicted in October 2017 in the course of the Mueller investigation and was eventually convicted of, and pleaded guilty to, charges including bank and tax fraud. Manafort’s business associate Rick Gates, who served on the Trump transition team, also pleaded guilty to fraud charges. Much of the Senate report’s information on Manafort echoes the Mueller report’s conclusions, but the Intelligence Committee is far more aggressive in its description of the counterintelligence threats posed by Manafort’s involvement with the campaign.

“Manafort had direct access to Trump and his Campaign’s senior officials, strategies, and information,” the committee notes, as did Gates—and “Manafort, often with the assistance of Gates, engaged with individuals inside Russia and Ukraine on matters pertaining both to his personal business prospects and the 2016 U.S. election.”

The report provides a brief overview of Manafort’s “connections to Russia and Ukraine,” which date to “approximately 2004.” In brief, Manafort began work then for the Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska and pro-Russian oligarchs in Ukraine, which eventually led to his role in engineering the 2010 election to the Ukrainian presidency of pro-Russian candidate Viktor Yanukovych. While the Mueller report described Deripaska as “closely aligned with Vladimir Putin,” the committee’s report is much more direct: “The Russian government,” the committee writes, “coordinates with and directs Deripaska” in conducting influence operations, with which Manafort also assisted. At another point, the committee states that “Manafort’s influence work for Deripaska was, in effect, influence work for the Russian government and its interests.”

In other words, as a baseline matter, the Trump campaign was—for a time—run by a man who himself had carried out influence operations on behalf of Russian interests.

 

[struth]

I'm still waiting for any of you cucks to back up what you say by refuting the facts I've presented. Care to start here?

The first section of the report concerns Paul Manafort, Trump’s one-time campaign chairman who resigned from the campaign in August 2016 following news reports of his previous work for a pro-Russian Ukrainian political party. Manafort was indicted in October 2017 in the course of the Mueller investigation and was eventually convicted of, and pleaded guilty to, charges including bank and tax fraud. Manafort’s business associate Rick Gates, who served on the Trump transition team, also pleaded guilty to fraud charges. Much of the Senate report’s information on Manafort echoes the Mueller report’s conclusions, but the Intelligence Committee is far more aggressive in its description of the counterintelligence threats posed by Manafort’s involvement with the campaign.

“Manafort had direct access to Trump and his Campaign’s senior officials, strategies, and information,” the committee notes, as did Gates—and “Manafort, often with the assistance of Gates, engaged with individuals inside Russia and Ukraine on matters pertaining both to his personal business prospects and the 2016 U.S. election.”

The report provides a brief overview of Manafort’s “connections to Russia and Ukraine,” which date to “approximately 2004.” In brief, Manafort began work then for the Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska and pro-Russian oligarchs in Ukraine, which eventually led to his role in engineering the 2010 election to the Ukrainian presidency of pro-Russian candidate Viktor Yanukovych. While the Mueller report described Deripaska as “closely aligned with Vladimir Putin,” the committee’s report is much more direct: “The Russian government,” the committee writes, “coordinates with and directs Deripaska” in conducting influence operations, with which Manafort also assisted. At another point, the committee states that “Manafort’s influence work for Deripaska was, in effect, influence work for the Russian government and its interests.”

In other words, as a baseline matter, the Trump campaign was—for a time—run by a man who himself had carried out influence operations on behalf of Russian interests.

Manafort is an American, that owned political consulting firm.

You are getting sad and desperate

 

[berg80]

You clearly do not understand what "debunked" means. Denialism is a dangerous path as evidenced by TDS sufferers on this board.

Would you like to start here?

Trump Tower in New York, where the infamous June 9 meeting took place, was not the only Trump Tower at issue in the interactions between Donald Trump and the Russians during the 2016 campaign. During the 2016 election cycle, senior members of the Trump Organization received at least three proposals for a Trump Tower in Moscow. Two were made to Michael Cohen, then executive vice president of the Trump Organization and personal attorney to Trump, by Felix Sater and Giorgi Rtskhiladze. One was made to Eric Trump by Boris Epshteyn, a then-Trump Campaign surrogate. Dmitri Klokov also contacted Cohen, through Ivanka Trump, during the 2016 election to set up a potential Trump-Putin meeting, possibly related to the same project.

These outreaches ended up being funneled to Michael Cohen, and he pursued them eagerly. In particular, the report describes in detail the energetic efforts by Cohen—with Trump’s blessing and encouragement—to pursue a real estate deal to build a Trump Tower in Moscow through Felix Sater and his Russian-government-and-organized-crime-connected interlocutors. These efforts continued throughout the campaign. Yet Trump reassured Americans throughout the campaign and into his presidency that he had no Russian business interests or other entanglements. As just one example, on July 27, 2016, he said, “I have nothing to with Russia. I have nothing to do with Russia—for anything.”

This was a lie, and for those quick to dismiss the notion that Donald Trump was to any degree compromised by the Russians, consider the lie for a moment. Trump made these comments publicly in a high-stakes situation. He knew when he did so that they were untrue. The Russians also knew they were untrue. And Trump also knew that the Russians knew that they were untrue. The only people who didn’t know they were untrue were the American public. This creates leverage, because Trump also knew at some level that the Russians could expose his lie in a high-stakes situation at any point. Such knowledge creates counterintelligence risk for the simple reason that it creates a powerful incentive on the part of the candidate not to cross the party with leverage.

 

[Twisted Gypsy Child]

We all need pay close attention to these PAID POSTER LEFTISTS, lol!

They listen to the DNC talking points, come on here, and all spew the same bullsh**, while pretending they actually had a thought, and came up with it, hahahahahahahahahaha!

These a**holes NEED YOU to respond, so they can get their Cheerios to eat-)

They are PATHETIC! If they are getting paid 2 cents a post, if the GOP paid them 3, they would flip faster than Flip Wilson!

Want to respond to their BULLSH** threads that they make 15 in one day? Figure out how to NICELY, give them the finger........and LAUGH THEIR LEFTIST PAID POSTER A**es off this board!

Remember---------->there is absolutely no need to try and win a argument you have already won convincingly! They want to re-engage you, because they all look like fools, and want to try find a little tidbit they can re-attack on.

Do you KNOW WHY the LEFT is in shambles-) It is because people do NOT respond to their bullsh**, instead, they want them to answer for the LIES they told. May I suggest, you do the same thing, and hold their little tootsies to the fire-)

^^Paid and you are Fake News as well.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I'm still waiting for any of you cucks to back up what you say by refuting the facts I've presented. Care to start here?

The first section of the report concerns Paul Manafort, Trump’s one-time campaign chairman who resigned from the campaign in August 2016 following news reports of his previous work for a pro-Russian Ukrainian political party. Manafort was indicted in October 2017 in the course of the Mueller investigation and was eventually convicted of, and pleaded guilty to, charges including bank and tax fraud. Manafort’s business associate Rick Gates, who served on the Trump transition team, also pleaded guilty to fraud charges. Much of the Senate report’s information on Manafort echoes the Mueller report’s conclusions, but the Intelligence Committee is far more aggressive in its description of the counterintelligence threats posed by Manafort’s involvement with the campaign.

“Manafort had direct access to Trump and his Campaign’s senior officials, strategies, and information,” the committee notes, as did Gates—and “Manafort, often with the assistance of Gates, engaged with individuals inside Russia and Ukraine on matters pertaining both to his personal business prospects and the 2016 U.S. election.”

The report provides a brief overview of Manafort’s “connections to Russia and Ukraine,” which date to “approximately 2004.” In brief, Manafort began work then for the Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska and pro-Russian oligarchs in Ukraine, which eventually led to his role in engineering the 2010 election to the Ukrainian presidency of pro-Russian candidate Viktor Yanukovych. While the Mueller report described Deripaska as “closely aligned with Vladimir Putin,” the committee’s report is much more direct: “The Russian government,” the committee writes, “coordinates with and directs Deripaska” in conducting influence operations, with which Manafort also assisted. At another point, the committee states that “Manafort’s influence work for Deripaska was, in effect, influence work for the Russian government and its interests.”

In other words, as a baseline matter, the Trump campaign was—for a time—run by a man who himself had carried out influence operations on behalf of Russian interests.

Yup.
Russians are awful.
Welcome to the party pal!

 

[IM2]

Hillary still had a much clearer connection to Russia by paying Russians for the fake Steel Dossier, which Obama and the rest tried to turn into a major scandal, including years of the Mueller Investigation. The DOJ will put Obama's crew threw the wringer like Comey did to Flynn and his family.

BS.

 

[Twisted Gypsy Child]

You are SCREWED PUNK! Even on here where CONSERVATIVES get excited over RUSSIA-RUSSIA-RUSSIA, they are going to LAUGH YOU right off this board-)

You think you are

 

[justoffal]

YAWWWWWN.....
Steele Dossier

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‘The Trump campaign’s interactions with Russian intelligence services during the 2016 presidential election posed a “grave” counterintelligence threat, a Senate panel concluded Tuesday as it detailed how associates of Donald Trump had regular contact with Russians and expected to benefit from the Kremlin’s help.

The nearly 1,000-page report, the fifth and final one from the Republican-led Senate intelligence committee on the Russia investigation, details how Russia launched an aggressive effort to interfere in the election on Trump’s behalf. It says the Trump campaign chairman had regular contact with a Russian intelligence officer and says other Trump associates were eager to exploit the Kremlin’s aid, particularly by maximizing the impact of the disclosure of Democratic emails hacked by Russian intelligence officers.’

Senate panel finds Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. election

The report purposely does not come to a final conclusion, as the other reports did, about whether there is enough evidence that Trump’s campaign coordinated or colluded with Russia to sway the election, leaving its findings open to partisan interpretation.

www.pbs.org

Trump Cult members don’t care about facts and the truth – they blindly ignore Trump’s crimes and corruption.

YAWWWWWN..

Steele Dossier
End of story

Clayton the bot


Jo

 

[Oddball]

What "facts" don't you agree with?
Tulsi vs Obama admin

DNI Tulsi Gabbard declassified Trump-Russia docs: Here’s what they say

DNI Tulsi Gabbard declassified a slew of documents this month she says reveal Obama administration officials “manufactured" intelligence to push the Trump-Russia collusion narrative.

www.foxnews.com

...or Hillary paying Russians for the Steele dossier

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/30/politics/clinton-dnc-steele-dossier-fusion-gps/

FEC fines Hillary Clinton campaign and DNC over Trump-Russia dossier research​

I mean, it's only their own damned memos and meeting notes.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Thread 'Putting an end to an ubiquitous meme from Trump loyalists'

Jul 3, 2022

It has been asserted hundreds of times by occupants of Trumpworld........the collusion hoax. It comes up in all manner of contexts. Most recently as a way to dismiss the 1/6 committee's work. Let's see what the facts say.

Manafort conspired with Kilimnik to give the Kremlin internal polling data. US says Russia was given Trump campaign polling data in 2016
Polling data that could have been useful for Putin in targeting Americans with the social media campaign he used to help Don get elected...

• berg80
• Replies: 165
• Forum: Politics

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Myopic focus on the vague word "collusion" and its dubious legal application to the trump/Russia connection have lead to specious assertions that do not hold up to scrutiny.

There was no evidence that polling data was shared with Russia. They say they dont know what Kilminik (sp) did with it.

At the end of the day, all that happened was Russia placed some social media ads. They probably would have done that anyway. What exactly would this polling data have done for them anyway?