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No you have never met a single person who is stupid enough to give their personal information to some anonymous internets idiot. How about you let that one go and provide a solution for the scenario I gave you days ago.My company just wrote me a letter saying things were going to get expensive for 2015 because then all Obamacare issues had to be covered. My new rates were 40% higher at $825/month plus a $6300 deductible! 60% higher is affordable care? He should be impeached for all the lies he used to pass it, not to mention the results.
It makes perfect sense though. People get poor not rich under socialism. We've seen it hundreds of times but liberals lack the IQ to understand what they see.
Stop lying. Please. You are not going to be paying 40% more for insurance unless you are a fucking idiot.
Give me the name of the plan, the ages of the people covered by the plan, your state and the name of the new plan that you are being told that you have to buy.
Lets go, liar. I'm here for you.
Do you want to bet $10,000 that I didn't get a letter saying $826/month with a $6300 deductible just for me and me alone? This is yes or no question.
Give me the name of the policy, your state and your age. Also, the name of the plan that you are being asked to switch to.
If you were buying insurance on the individual market, you can expect premiums that high. That's America, for you.
I have never met a single person who could prove a premium increase of 40%. Lots of claims. No proof. You are possibly a target of a ripoff by your insurer. But....that is a long shot. More likely you are simply lying.
I had affordable healthcare before Obamacare. Had spinal fusion surgery several years ago. Cost me a total of less than $500 out of pocket. Should I thank that POS for that?
You bought this health insurance on the individual market? Interesting. What was the name if the plan and what state do you live in? What were your monthly premiums?
I got it through my employer as part of my COMPENSATION.
I don't have premiums. They are paid by my employer as part of my COMPENSATION.
You do know what compensation means don't you? Unlike those receiving subsidies under Obamacare, I actually have to do something valuable in order to get my coverage. They don't have to do anything but claim they can't afford to buy theirs.
You sure do mislead others. You still have your job, don't you? Then,..what's the problem? You made it seem as though you lost your health insurance somehow.
I stated a fact. Apparently you missed the part about compensation being the reason I received it. I still have a job and part of what I get "paid" to do that job includes healthcare at no cost to me. The problem is those who aren't being provided that same coverage as part of compensation think the government should force their employer to do what mine chose to do. The low skilled workers wants to be compensated what having highly regarded skills got me. Just another example of people thinking they are owed something then whining because they don't get what someone else does. Their answer is to have the government force it on someone else to provide it to them. When 4 of 5 on the exchanges get a subsidy in order to buy it, who the hell do you think is funding it?
Did you lose your affordable health care or didn't you?
Any Conservatives Want Some Help?
Hell..they are too egotistic to admit that they might need it. No wonder.. in their pride they have failed.
But....that is a long shot. More likely you are simply lying.
But....that is a long shot. More likely you are simply lying.
Than bet $10,000 that my rates did not shoot up to $826/month with $6300 deductible!!
Thats affordable care to a liberal??
. There is no way you are being forced to pay 40% more for the same plan that you had last year.
They don't fit the narrative.
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. There is no way you are being forced to pay 40% more for the same plan that you had last year.
dear, it's not the same plan. 2015 is first year all private plans must be fully Obamacare compliant! Now, I have to pay for everyone's pregnancy and mental health plus, rather than the young paying for the old, it seems reversed. Guys in their late 20's are paying $140/month so guess who is subsidizing them.
I don't need insurance and I wish to pay ZERO, please help
I don't need insurance and I wish to pay ZERO, please help
That isn't true. You need insurance. This is America.
But....that is a long shot. More likely you are simply lying.
Than bet $10,000 that my rates did not shoot up to $826/month with $6300 deductible!!
Thats affordable care to a liberal??
Oh....they are all rich. We've got several multi-millionaire conservatives posting in these forums. Some of them are so rich that they don't even know how much money they have.
I noticed that too. Must be conservatives from blue states, cause red states receive more welfare and other help than anyone else.
I live in one of those red States you say gets more. The intersting part is the only blue district within it, the poorest by far, greatly exceeds any amount the other 6 red district gets. For what you say to be valid, you'd have to show me that those voting red are the only ones getting welfare assistance. You can't do that.
So you really didn't understand what I said did you? I said "red states receive more welfare and other help than anyone else" I didn't say right wingers were the only ones receiving government assistance, just that red states receive more. Just stick with your Hannity quotes, cause you fail horribly when you try to form a thought of your own.
I understand what you were trying to misrepresent. Even if my State as a whole receives more and it's red as a whole, if the blue parts are the cause, your statement is invalid. You blame the red state because the blue idiots in it can't support themselves making us red voters appear as something we aren't. Talk about stereotyping.
Do you ever get dizzy trying to twist facts? Your attempt at justifying right wing states requirement for more government help, by blaming Democrats is only rational to other teabaggers. It's laughed at in the real world.[/QUOTE
Do you ever get light-headed because you lack oxygen by having your head stuck up Obama's ass? It's so far someone could twist you by your feet and brush the back of his teeth.
I answered you completely. You must have missed it. It was a stupid scenario....but ai responded anyway. Those people would pay nothing near what you stated. Try again.
I'm not asking for personal information here. I don't want to know anyone's name or even the city they live in. But...if someone claims that their premiums go up by a large amount....doubling or tripling.....then I want to know the name of the fucking plan.
I answered you completely. You must have missed it. It was a stupid scenario....but ai responded anyway. Those people would pay nothing near what you stated. Try again.
I'm not asking for personal information here. I don't want to know anyone's name or even the city they live in. But...if someone claims that their premiums go up by a large amount....doubling or tripling.....then I want to know the name of the fucking plan.
You didn't solve squat. And the scenario is not stupid. Only someone out of touch or a troll would say so. It is a real situation many people in this country are in. And millions fall into that little thing called 'the coverage gap'. Now we'll just see how you call bullshit on the term coined by the very people who wrote the bill.
Any Conservatives Want Some Help?
Hell..they are too egotistic to admit that they might need it. No wonder.. in their pride they have failed.
No.If you are uninsured or have an expensive individual plan, you can go on the exchange and possibly find a better deal.
Bet you didn't know that 4 of 5 getting a better deal are doing so due to a subsidy funded by someone else. If you know, I bet you don't care and/or think those getting the subsidy deserve that other person's money.
I think everyone deserves quality health care. Don't you?
I feel the same about early voting.If you are uninsured or have an expensive individual plan, you can go on the exchange and possibly find a better deal.
Bet you didn't know that 4 of 5 getting a better deal are doing so due to a subsidy funded by someone else. If you know, I bet you don't care and/or think those getting the subsidy deserve that other person's money.
I think everyone deserves quality health care. Don't you?
Not if it means another person is forced to fund it for them. No one deserves what another person has earned unless the one earning voluntarily gives it to them. That includes food, clothing, housing, healthcare, etc.
I get it. You don't buy into the whole "We The People" thing. That's cool. We will still be here for you if you need us.
The problem is there are two distinct groups. One that works for a living and one that votes for one. If it's truly we the people, then all people would contribute. They don't.
I've been there twice where I could have taken it. Did not either time because I practice what I preach. No one owed me anything.
It doesn't require people to have healthcare.If you are uninsured or have an expensive individual plan, you can go on the exchange and possibly find a better deal.
Bet you didn't know that 4 of 5 getting a better deal are doing so due to a subsidy funded by someone else. If you know, I bet you don't care and/or think those getting the subsidy deserve that other person's money.
I think everyone deserves quality health care. Don't you?
I think everyone deserves quality health care. Don't you?
Better than Obamacare?
For sure!
Obamacare isn't a thing. The care is the same. Please learn.
It's a law that requires people to have a thing called healthcare. The difference is those using the exchanges under it are getting theirs handed to them because someone else is funding it. Please learn that if those who actually contribute to society are the only reason someone piece of shit not providing it to themselves gets its.
Insurance works when people pay in to share a risk.Bet you didn't know that 4 of 5 getting a better deal are doing so due to a subsidy funded by someone else. If you know, I bet you don't care and/or think those getting the subsidy deserve that other person's money.
I think everyone deserves quality health care. Don't you?
I think everyone deserves quality health care. Don't you?
Better than Obamacare?
For sure!
Obamacare isn't a thing. The care is the same. Please learn.
It's a law that requires people to have a thing called healthcare. The difference is those using the exchanges under it are getting theirs handed to them because someone else is funding it. Please learn that if those who actually contribute to society are the only reason someone piece of shit not providing it to themselves gets its.
You don't seem to understand how insurance works. That's OK. It works without you knowing.
