There's a legal test for incitement or threats - and it's applied to both sides
That's because you're a fuckwit who doesn't understand the First Amendment.
Ask a lawyer, they can help you out.
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There's a legal test for incitement or threats - and it's applied to both sides
God, you guys are a bunch of whiny little snowflakes.
what is whiny here?
should these statements (IE - let's incinerate police officers) constitute a hate crime?
if a group were to propose hanging black people, I suspect that type of charge would have a better chance of becoming reality
the problem is, these types of statements do not seem to garner any outrage from prominent leftists nor their allies in traditional media
my 2nd point, that Trump was unfairly maligned for lumping this type of group in with white racist groups, stands
what do you disagree with here?
and where do you see a whine?
Tank is a moron and deltex made no threat that I saw.I can threaten anyone with violence and be IMMEDIATELY arrested regardless of my intent.Intent is not required for convictionThe tweet – sent out by the Autonomous Student Network (ASN) at UT-Austin – states “Instead of #LawEnforcementAppreciationDay how about #LawEnforcementIncinerationDay”
Do you think that meets the threshold of a "true threat", according to your link?
Do you think that the tweet is a "statement in which a speaker expresses a “serious” intent “to commit an act of unlawful violence to a particular individual or group of individuals”?
It most certainly is. Read you own damn link.
You're not to bright.
Earlier in this thread, Tank and deltex both threatened violence against these students.
Do you think they're going to be arrested?
More nonsense. Inciting violence is a crime. It is up to the discretion of local municipalities if they wish to charge or not.I don't know for sure, but I believe the threshold is "credible threat"Do you think that meets the threshold of a "true threat", according to your know for link?
Police officers have actually been targeted recently in TX
The threshold is intent - the legal difference between free speech and threatening or inciting speech is called the "Brandenburg test". It requires 2 elements to be proven - 1st, that there is serious intent on the part of the speaker for the crime to take place, and 2nd, that there is a credible belief that the violence will occur eminently.
This tweet meets neither of those elements.
With our over crowded criminal system MANY criminal statute violations are simply ignored.
What I think is that the" hate crime" laws are really a tool to circumvent the 1st amendment and allow for persecution of unpopular speechDo you think that the tweet is a "statement in which a speaker expresses a “serious” intent “to commit an act of unlawful violence to a particular individual or group of individuals”?
Tank is a moron and deltex made no threat that I saw.I can threaten anyone with violence and be IMMEDIATELY arrested regardless of my intent.Intent is not required for conviction
Do you think that meets the threshold of a "true threat", according to your link?
Do you think that the tweet is a "statement in which a speaker expresses a “serious” intent “to commit an act of unlawful violence to a particular individual or group of individuals”?
It most certainly is. Read you own damn link.
You're not to bright.
Earlier in this thread, Tank and deltex both threatened violence against these students.
Do you think they're going to be arrested?
What I think is that the" hate crime" laws are really a tool to circumvent the 1st amendment and allow for persecution of unpopular speechDo you think that the tweet is a "statement in which a speaker expresses a “serious” intent “to commit an act of unlawful violence to a particular individual or group of individuals”?
And I'm hoping that you understood that coming in...
I think tank should be in a padded cell but that's not my call.Tank is a moron and deltex made no threat that I saw.I can threaten anyone with violence and be IMMEDIATELY arrested regardless of my intent.Intent is not required for conviction
It most certainly is. Read you own damn link.
You're not to bright.
Earlier in this thread, Tank and deltex both threatened violence against these students.
Do you think they're going to be arrested?
Well, if you think these students should be arrested, do you think that Tank should be arrested too?
What I think is that the" hate crime" laws are really a tool to circumvent the 1st amendment and allow for persecution of unpopular speechDo you think that the tweet is a "statement in which a speaker expresses a “serious” intent “to commit an act of unlawful violence to a particular individual or group of individuals”?
And I'm hoping that you understood that coming in...
I never said there wasAnd no - there's no legal difference between posting on a message board, and posting on twitter.
I think tank should be in a padded cell but that's not my call.Tank is a moron and deltex made no threat that I saw.I can threaten anyone with violence and be IMMEDIATELY arrested regardless of my intent.
It most certainly is. Read you own damn link.
You're not to bright.
Earlier in this thread, Tank and deltex both threatened violence against these students.
Do you think they're going to be arrested?
Well, if you think these students should be arrested, do you think that Tank should be arrested too?
I never said there wasAnd no - there's no legal difference between posting on a message board, and posting on twitter.
I made the comment that if a comment was made here that was serious and credible, that I would expect it to be reported
I never said it was my call lolI think tank should be in a padded cell but that's not my call.Tank is a moron and deltex made no threat that I saw.I can threaten anyone with violence and be IMMEDIATELY arrested regardless of my intent.
You're not to bright.
Earlier in this thread, Tank and deltex both threatened violence against these students.
Do you think they're going to be arrested?
Well, if you think these students should be arrested, do you think that Tank should be arrested too?
And yet, it appears that you think that the arrest of these students is your call.
Why is that?
Determining intent is subjectiveThe threshold is intent - the legal difference between free speech and threatening or inciting speech is called the "Brandenburg test".
Determining intent is subjectiveThe threshold is intent - the legal difference between free speech and threatening or inciting speech is called the "Brandenburg test".
do you really believe the standards for this are applied equally?
I understand thatWhat I'm trying to make clear to you is that not all "threats" are "real threats".
This is what happens when someone is bested in a debate, they fall back on personal insults good jobThat's because you're a fuckwit who doesn't understand the First Amendment.