Anti-Trumpsters need to try and understand Trump supporters.

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Anti-Trumpsters need to try and understand Trump supporters; especially the Democratic party.
Anti-Trumpsters tend to see Trump supporters a under educated, under employed jokes who believe all of Trump's lies because they are too lazy to gain the skills required by a 21st century economy.

The Democratic party ignored a large swath of middle America. Many of these people lost their job because their skills no longer are in demand in the 21st century.
The Democratic party gave much attention to people in the inner city who are under-educated and under-employed. The Democratic party gave much attention to immigrants, both legal and illegal, who are under-educated and under-employed.
That opened the door for Trump to come in and take advantage of the ignored group in middle America. No one else was giving them attention. They were ripe to be conned and they have been conned by the best.

The Democratic party must come up with real solutions for the ignored group in middle America. They need to try and understand them and not just laugh at them.

Democrats can't understand why the people who they hate won't vote for them

 

[Gdjjr]

That keeps the Duopoly in place and ensures that no 3P will ever be viable.

Voter ignorance spurred on/exploited by unscrupulous politicians is why there are only 2 choices- the EC has nothing to do with it outside of representative voting, which is the foundation of our republic and was determined by people a lot smarter than anyone I've met in my 72 years on this earth, to be the best alternative vs a democracy, which is what those clamoring for doing away with desire- have you ever noticed the politicians and talking heads and print reporters always call us a democracy? Why do you think that is? We're a representative republic- I believe it is an intentional tool trying to desensitize the not too bright and actually create a democracy which is no more than mob rule- Individual rights take enough of a beating from our current situation- to make us a true democracy you van kiss your individual rights good bye- they will be restricted into non existence- sooner rather than later-

a sample:
The Electoral College was created for two reasons. The first purpose was to create a buffer between the population and the selection of a President. The second as part of the structure of the government that gave extra power to the smaller states.

The first reason that the founders created the Electoral College is hard to understand today. The founding fathers were afraid of direct election to the Presidency. They feared a tyrant could manipulate public opinion and come to power. Hamilton wrote in the Federalist Papers:

It was equally desirable, that the immediate election should be made by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice. A small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated investigations. It was also peculiarly desirable to afford as little opportunity as possible to tumult and disorder. This evil was not least to be dreaded in the election of a magistrate, who was to have so important an agency in the administration of the government as the President of the United States. But the precautions which have been so happily concerted in the system under consideration, promise an effectual security against this mischief.

Why the Electoral College

Today? It's no different than yesterday and all the excuses in the world won't change that- yes, EVERY POTUS has over reached his authority- which brings us full circle, doing the same thing over and over expecting different results is crazy- left, right, left, right, left, right- and make no mistake, democracy will be no different in that regard- the same destination just a different rate of descent- hitting a brick wall at 100mph will kill you as easily as hitting it at 110mph- your political affiliation won't mean a thing- so, people ask; what can we do? My response is live your life to the best of your ability, beat them at their own game and leave your space a little better than you found it- Individual effort creates the Greater Good, naturally- it will not be legislated or mandated- simply because rules can and will be broken- see the ass clowns in the District of Criminals for evidence-

 

[Gdjjr]

I accept your plea of "nolo contendre".

I made no such plea- you assumed, which is ignorance personified- if you presumed it's arrogance personified- your non rebuttal speaks volumes- as in what you accuse me of-

 

[blackhawk]

So your insulting Trump supporters while saying at the same time we must not insult them and laugh at them. I have no doubt the Trump supporters see the major flaw here I doubt you do.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Anti-Trumpsters need to try and understand Trump supporters; especially the Democratic party.
Anti-Trumpsters tend to see Trump supporters a under educated, under employed jokes who believe all of Trump's lies because they are too lazy to gain the skills required by a 21st century economy.

The Democratic party ignored a large swath of middle America. Many of these people lost their job because their skills no longer are in demand in the 21st century.
The Democratic party gave much attention to people in the inner city who are under-educated and under-employed. The Democratic party gave much attention to immigrants, both legal and illegal, who are under-educated and under-employed.
That opened the door for Trump to come in and take advantage of the ignored group in middle America. No one else was giving them attention. They were ripe to be conned and they have been conned by the best.

The Democratic party must come up with real solutions for the ignored group in middle America. They need to try and understand them and not just laugh at them.

This is a giant asshole of a bait thread made by a goofy goober and it doesn't belong in the politics forum.

Try the twittering teen girls forum.

I believe you're correct. Elmer is actually a never-Trumper. Interesting strategy............

One can be a never-trumper and still relate to the people who Trump hijacked. The OP is correct...that there are a large group of people who feel that they have been screwed by the changing markets..and that Trump is the only one who is addressing their concerns..yeah..he conned them...still doesn't mean that their plight is not real..and deserving of a solution.

 

[K9Buck]

Anti-Trumpsters need to try and understand Trump supporters; especially the Democratic party.
Anti-Trumpsters tend to see Trump supporters a under educated, under employed jokes who believe all of Trump's lies because they are too lazy to gain the skills required by a 21st century economy.

The Democratic party ignored a large swath of middle America. Many of these people lost their job because their skills no longer are in demand in the 21st century.
The Democratic party gave much attention to people in the inner city who are under-educated and under-employed. The Democratic party gave much attention to immigrants, both legal and illegal, who are under-educated and under-employed.
That opened the door for Trump to come in and take advantage of the ignored group in middle America. No one else was giving them attention. They were ripe to be conned and they have been conned by the best.

The Democratic party must come up with real solutions for the ignored group in middle America. They need to try and understand them and not just laugh at them.

If and when the Democratic Party supports the interests of average Americans, I will consider voting for them.

 

[K9Buck]

I support Trump because he's better for my family's standard of living. If Trump was engaged in genocide or some other heinous activity, I would oppose him.

 

[petro]

Should Democrats sink to the Special Olympics level to understand Trump* supporters? I don't think so...

You are the king of Special Olympics posts. You are only allowed to post with your helmet on.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Should Democrats sink to the Special Olympics level to understand Trump* supporters? I don't think so...

If Democrats would pull their collective heads out of their asses and quit pretending to be so morally and intellectually superior, they might actually figure out why they lost in 2016 and 2020.

I do not disagree with you.
But the Republican's elected the most immoral and nonintellectual President to counter the Democrats.
We can still be moral and intellectual and defeat the snobbish Democrats.

 

[bluzman61]

Should Democrats sink to the Special Olympics level to understand Trump* supporters? I don't think so...

You are the king of Special Olympics posts. You are only allowed to post with your helmet on.
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Yep, Chief Lakhota is QUITE dim. I suspect it's from smoking his peace pipe too much. I have suggested that he put DOWN the pipe before posting. He did NOT like that very much...........

 

[ElmerMudd]

So your insulting Trump supporters while saying at the same time we must not insult them and laugh at them. I have no doubt the Trump supporters see the major flaw here I doubt you do.

I am saying the Democrats support those in need; inner city, immigrants, minorities etc. But the Trump supporters are as in need as the groups the Democrats support. They need to help them also,
I think the Trump supporters do not like to admit they are in the same situation as the inner city and immigrant communities.

 

[ElmerMudd]

I support Trump because he's better for my family's standard of living. If Trump was engaged in genocide or some other heinous activity, I would oppose him.

Family standards? Do you feel being married 3 times with 5 children, bragging you can grab women by the pussy, having sex with a porn star while your wife is home with your 1 year old child Family standards, I guess you are right.

 

[K9Buck]

I support Trump because he's better for my family's standard of living. If Trump was engaged in genocide or some other heinous activity, I would oppose him.

Family standards? Do you feel being married 3 times with 5 children, bragging you can grab women by the pussy, having sex with a porn star while your wife is home with your 1 year old child Family standards, I guess you are right.

I don't plan on marrying Trump. He's good for our financials so I'll vote for him again next election.

 

[MarathonMike]

So your insulting Trump supporters while saying at the same time we must not insult them and laugh at them. I have no doubt the Trump supporters see the major flaw here I doubt you do.

I am saying the Democrats support those in need; inner city, immigrants, minorities etc. But the Trump supporters are as in need as the groups the Democrats support. They need to help them also,
I think the Trump supporters do not like to admit they are in the same situation as the inner city and immigrant communities.

<<<I think the Trump supporters do not like to admit they are in the same situation as the inner city and immigrant communities>>>.

LOL you have been duped into the Media fed stereotype of the "typical" Trump supporter. OMG the SAME situation as inner city and immigrant communities? Really? I shouldn't even bother but Edward, seriously "Trump supporters" come from every demographic not just fly-over country rednecks. I know it's very comforting for you and all Trump haters to believe that. It just happens to be COMPLETELY FALSE.

 

[K9Buck]

So your insulting Trump supporters while saying at the same time we must not insult them and laugh at them. I have no doubt the Trump supporters see the major flaw here I doubt you do.

I am saying the Democrats support those in need; inner city, immigrants, minorities etc. But the Trump supporters are as in need as the groups the Democrats support. They need to help them also,
I think the Trump supporters do not like to admit they are in the same situation as the inner city and immigrant communities.

Democrats destroyed black America.

 

[Augustine_]

The Democratic party must come up with real solutions for the ignored group in middle America. They need to try and understand them and not just laugh at them.

Or get this going: National Popular Vote

 

[ElmerMudd]

I support Trump because he's better for my family's standard of living. If Trump was engaged in genocide or some other heinous activity, I would oppose him.

Family standards? Do you feel being married 3 times with 5 children, bragging you can grab women by the pussy, having sex with a porn star while your wife is home with your 1 year old child Family standards, I guess you are right.

I don't plan on marrying Trump. He's good for our financials so I'll vote for him again next election.

you have no morals

 

[ElmerMudd]

So your insulting Trump supporters while saying at the same time we must not insult them and laugh at them. I have no doubt the Trump supporters see the major flaw here I doubt you do.

I am saying the Democrats support those in need; inner city, immigrants, minorities etc. But the Trump supporters are as in need as the groups the Democrats support. They need to help them also,
I think the Trump supporters do not like to admit they are in the same situation as the inner city and immigrant communities.

<<<I think the Trump supporters do not like to admit they are in the same situation as the inner city and immigrant communities>>>.

LOL you have been duped into the Media fed stereotype of the "typical" Trump supporter. OMG the SAME situation as inner city and immigrant communities? Really? I shouldn't even bother but Edward, seriously "Trump supporters" come from every demographic not just fly-over country rednecks. I know it's very comforting for you and all Trump haters to believe that. It just happens to be COMPLETELY FALSE.

no it is true. it is tough for Trump supporters to admit.

 

[K9Buck]

I support Trump because he's better for my family's standard of living. If Trump was engaged in genocide or some other heinous activity, I would oppose him.

Family standards? Do you feel being married 3 times with 5 children, bragging you can grab women by the pussy, having sex with a porn star while your wife is home with your 1 year old child Family standards, I guess you are right.

I don't plan on marrying Trump. He's good for our financials so I'll vote for him again next election.

you have no morals

An abortionist lecturing someone else on morals. Now that's funny.

 

[blackhawk]

So your insulting Trump supporters while saying at the same time we must not insult them and laugh at them. I have no doubt the Trump supporters see the major flaw here I doubt you do.

I am saying the Democrats support those in need; inner city, immigrants, minorities etc. But the Trump supporters are as in need as the groups the Democrats support. They need to help them also,
I think the Trump supporters do not like to admit they are in the same situation as the inner city and immigrant communities.

Then you clearly don't know or understand Trump supporters at all you are simply repeating the media driven narrative put out about them.