Seymour Flops
Diamond Member
They should be.
"Stealth Jurors" are people in the jury pool who want to be on the jury in order to bring about a particular outcome, and will tailor their answers to give themselves the best chance to be among the chosen 12. Given the unfairness with which the Mahnatten DA want's to pick jurors, such deception is likely the only way to prevent a completely rigged trial.
Trump's lawyers protested one question in particular: "Do you believe the 2020 election was stolen?"
Joshua Steinglass from the Manhattan District Attorney's Office defended the question, saying it was designed to glean if a person has "an unwillingness to follow the facts and kind of just blindly" follow what Trump says.
In a case with this much pretrial publicity, the usual challenge of finding enough people willing or able to sit through the trial is thrown out the window, according to Pace University Law School Professor Bennett Gershman. Instead of being on the lookout for fake excuses, he said, lawyers on the case will be worried about so-called "stealth jurors."
"There may be people who want to be on this jury, who may see it as a historic moment in American history, and they want to be there. They may be predisposed one way or the other, but don't want to say it," said Gershman, a former New York prosecutor.
While the jury selection is supposed to produce a neutral jury of trustworthy individuals who will fairly decide the case, both sides see it as an opportunity to win at the beginning, and to use the questioning to begin to condition the jury to accept the narrative that their side plans to present.
Aidala and other experts said the main thing consultants will be looking for is whether prospective jurors have already said publicly if they have an opinion about whether Trump is guilty in the case.
Are they kidding? Anyone with no opinion of Trump's guilt or innocence would not want to be within a country mile of that jury box. The trial is guaranteed to drag forever, include lots of pauses for appeals, and likely lead to a sequestration at some point. Anyone who doesn't care whether Trump is acquitted or convicted will be the reverse of a stealth juror, answering the questions whatever way it takes to avoid being on the jury.
This is the yuge flaw in the pipe dream of Trump actually being convicted. All members of the jury will likely be highly agendized stealth juror types. The DA cannot get a conviction unless all twelve are stealth anti-Trump jurors, with zero stealth pro-Trump juror.
Probability of that, assuming (for the sake of example) that there is a 50% chance of each stealth juror being pro, or anti-Trump the probability of getting twelve anti-Trumpers in a row would be .5 to the 12th power or .000244%, less than 3 in 10,000.
If my math is wrong, tell me. I went to public school.
"Stealth Jurors" are people in the jury pool who want to be on the jury in order to bring about a particular outcome, and will tailor their answers to give themselves the best chance to be among the chosen 12. Given the unfairness with which the Mahnatten DA want's to pick jurors, such deception is likely the only way to prevent a completely rigged trial.
Trump's lawyers protested one question in particular: "Do you believe the 2020 election was stolen?"
Joshua Steinglass from the Manhattan District Attorney's Office defended the question, saying it was designed to glean if a person has "an unwillingness to follow the facts and kind of just blindly" follow what Trump says.
In a case with this much pretrial publicity, the usual challenge of finding enough people willing or able to sit through the trial is thrown out the window, according to Pace University Law School Professor Bennett Gershman. Instead of being on the lookout for fake excuses, he said, lawyers on the case will be worried about so-called "stealth jurors."
"There may be people who want to be on this jury, who may see it as a historic moment in American history, and they want to be there. They may be predisposed one way or the other, but don't want to say it," said Gershman, a former New York prosecutor.
While the jury selection is supposed to produce a neutral jury of trustworthy individuals who will fairly decide the case, both sides see it as an opportunity to win at the beginning, and to use the questioning to begin to condition the jury to accept the narrative that their side plans to present.
Aidala and other experts said the main thing consultants will be looking for is whether prospective jurors have already said publicly if they have an opinion about whether Trump is guilty in the case.
Are they kidding? Anyone with no opinion of Trump's guilt or innocence would not want to be within a country mile of that jury box. The trial is guaranteed to drag forever, include lots of pauses for appeals, and likely lead to a sequestration at some point. Anyone who doesn't care whether Trump is acquitted or convicted will be the reverse of a stealth juror, answering the questions whatever way it takes to avoid being on the jury.
This is the yuge flaw in the pipe dream of Trump actually being convicted. All members of the jury will likely be highly agendized stealth juror types. The DA cannot get a conviction unless all twelve are stealth anti-Trump jurors, with zero stealth pro-Trump juror.
Probability of that, assuming (for the sake of example) that there is a 50% chance of each stealth juror being pro, or anti-Trump the probability of getting twelve anti-Trumpers in a row would be .5 to the 12th power or .000244%, less than 3 in 10,000.
If my math is wrong, tell me. I went to public school.
