Another Rat Jumping Ship

[Deadstick]

Another Tory Rat deserted a sinking Ship and joined reform or the Tories Mk2 just more rabid, the latest rat is Freddy Kruger, i mean Danny, all they want is to continue on the Westminster gravy train.

Tory MP and shadow minister Danny Kruger defects to Reform

The East Wiltshire MP said the Conservatives were no longer the main party of opposition.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Another Tory Rat deserted a sinking Ship and joined reform or the Tories Mk2 just more rabid, the latest rat is Freddy Kruger, i mean Danny, all they want is to continue on the Westminster gravy train.

Tory MP and shadow minister Danny Kruger defects to Reform

The East Wiltshire MP said the Conservatives were no longer the main party of opposition.

www.bbc.co.uk

Sad, Reform have just 4 seats though, lets hope they remain a fringe movement unlike here where the dummies actually elected a fascist.

 

[Deadstick]

Sad, Reform have just 4 seats though, lets hope they remain a fringe movement unlike here where the dummies actually elected a fascist.

If you have time just watch this vid, this guy exposed just who some of these people were on Saturday, they should have been arrested for race hate, if what they said was against Jews they would have been arrested, one of them on Camera even called for the assassination of Starmer, he should be arrested and charged, instead we have people who support Palestine holding a cardboard sign being arrested by the hundreds most of them pensioners.

 

[1srelluc]

Nobody knows WTF you are talking about.

 

[BackAgain]

Sad, Reform have just 4 seats though, lets hope they remain a fringe movement unlike here where the dummies actually elected a fascist.

A repeated lie ^ is still a lie, Shithead Homeless.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

If you have time just watch this vid, this guy exposed just who some of these people were on Saturday, they should have been arrested for race hate, if what they said was against Jews they would have been arrested, one of them on Camera even called for the assassination of Starmer, he should be arrested and charged, instead we have people who support Palestine holding a cardboard sign being arrested by the hundreds most of them pensioners.

Jeeez.

I watched most of it thanks. This is right wing populism spreading from the US to Western Europe. It's given every lowlife crank a platform to spout their insanity.

As I was just explaining (well, trying to) to this Jewess, these people are a danger to all of us including Jews, both here and in the USA.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

A repeated lie ^ is still a lie, Shithead Homeless.

There you go, you just can't resist ad-hominem.

 

[BackAgain]

There you go, you just can't resist ad-hominem.

It’s not an ad hominem. It’s a statement of fact. You always lie when you call anyone to the right of you a “fascist.”

You cannot reasonably even define the term, “fascist.”

And, by the way, you make use of ad hominems all the damn time. So stop with your hypocrisy. You fool nobody.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

It’s not an ad hominem. It’s a statement of fact. You always lie when you call anyone to the right of you a “fascist.”

You cannot reasonably even define the term, “fascist.”

And, by the way, you make use of ad hominems all the damn time. So stop with your hypocrisy. You fool nobody.

What would it take to convince you that trump is embracing neo-fascism?

 

[Deadstick]

What would it take to convince you that trump is embracing neo-fascism?

they will be convinced when the friendly local Gestapo officer knocks on their door at 4am for something they said.

 

[BackAgain]

What would it take to convince that trump is embracing neo-fascism?

1. An honest definition of “fascism.”

2. An honest definition of “neo-fascism.”

3. A statement of demonstrable “facts” which then fit within the definitions in 1. and 2.

4. A clear exposition of how and why the claim demonstrates fascism or neo-fascism as opposed to a mere coincidence (since some actions which might seem to fit a definition have other explanations, often times, too).

That would be a start.

 

[BackAgain]

they will be convinced when the friendly local Gestapo officer knocks on their door at 4am for something they said.

This isn’t Great Britain where a subjects words which may be considered offensive (albeit non threatening) have resulted in arrests and political prosecutions and fines.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

1. An honest definition of “fascism.”

2. An honest definition of “neo-fascism.”

3. A statement of demonstrable “facts” which then fit within the definitions in 1. and 2.

4. A clear exposition of how and why the claim demonstrates fascism or neo-fascism as opposed to a mere coincidence (since some actions which might seem to fit a definition have other explanations, often times, too).

That would be a start.

If you yourself don't yet have definitions for "fascism" and "neo-fascism" you cannot reason that my calling trump a neo-fascist is a lie.

So let me help you:

Neo-fascism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That about wraps it up for any intelligent person, trump oozes neo-fascism and all of his obedient sidekicks do too.

As for you, go and shove your head back where it was before you just replied to me:

 

[Deadstick]

This isn’t Great Britain where a subjects words which may be considered offensive (albeit non threatening) have resulted in arrests and political prosecutions and fines.

It's the US where people are picked up by the police because they look a little Mexican and vanish.

 

[BackAgain]

If you yourself don't yet have definitions for "fascism" and "neo-fascism" you cannot reason that my calling trump a neo-fascist is a lie.

So let me help you:

I don’t require your help, you moronic gasbag. The point is to compel scumbags like you to START to use the term correctly, at long last.

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Neo-fascism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I don’t ask for a wiki daffynition.

That shit isn’t a proper definition. And I knew you couldn’t come up with a real one.

That about wraps it up for any intelligent person, trump oozes neo-fascism and all of his obedient sidekicks do too

False. It only wraps up your bullshit in the diseased mind of you and your fellow far left wing hacks and propagandists.

As for you, go and shove your head back where it was before you just replied to me:

Nah. We all know that’s just you projecting.

You insist on drifting between the misuse of the term “fascist” and the term “neo-fascist.”

You pretend that fascism is a creature of the “far right.” It isn’t.

Here’s a more neutral and a fairer definition:




“Fascism is an authoritarian and ultranationalist political system that seeks to unify the population under a centralized state led by a dictatorial leader. It emphasizes collective identity over individual rights, uses propaganda and mass mobilization to maintain control, suppresses opposition, and directs the economy and society toward the goals of the state, often through militarism and coercion.”


If you were to try to employ that definition, it would become immediately clear that it is today’s leftists who stink of fascism.

Authoritarian? You must accept ObamaCare. You must take the highly suspicious COVID drugs whether you wish to or not.

Ultranationalist political system? Guys like you always fail to distinguish between a perfectly benign nationalist sentiment and “internationalism.” Our system is not at all “ultranationalist.”

A centralized state led by a dictatorial leader? We have no such system and desire none. If anyone does think that way, it is you far leftists. Just look at what Presidents Obama and Biden tried to foist off on America.

Uses propaganda and mass mobilization to maintain control and suppress opposition? That has Biden and Fauci and Soros and clowns like you written all over it.

Directs the economy and society toward the goals of the state, often through militarism and coercion? Obama and Biden and Fauci and an unelected Fed. Democrat Party with its apparatchik main stream leftist media. The undue influence the government exerted to suppress opposing voices in places like “Facebook” and so forth.

The term “fascist” (“neo” or not) is more fully reflective of the ideology of the left than anything from the right or from the Trump Administration

See, I gave you an answer to your stupid question. You, of course, only addressed point one. And even there you were dishonest.

 

[westwall]

What would it take to convince you that trump is embracing neo-fascism?

Facts that support your claim. We got rid of the fascists by electing Trump. But then, we actually know what fascism is.

Apparently you don't.

 

[hadit]

Sad, Reform have just 4 seats though, lets hope they remain a fringe movement unlike here where the dummies actually elected a fascist.

When did that happen? You'd think there would be a memo. I've checked around and we don't have any in any important places.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Facts that support your claim. We got rid of the fascists by electing Trump. But then, we actually know what fascism is.

Apparently you don't.

My dear fellow I do not seek to convince you or the other reprobate BackAgain that trump oozes neo-fascism, that's not possible. Not because it isn't true but because you care not for truth, make it up as you go along and contaminate other people with it.

You fools claim trump won in 2020, so there's no hope of getting you to admit trump's fascism.

You are all using the same tricks as the Holocaust deniers, and you are all no better than those people.

Let this conversation serve as evidence of your ineptitude and dishonesty, let the reader draw their own conclusions as to who's the liar and who isn't.

 

[westwall]

My dear fellow I do not seek to convince you or the other reprobate BackAgain that trump oozes neo-fascism, that's not possible. Not because it isn't true but because you care not for truth, make it up as you go along and contaminate other people with it.

You fools claim trump won in 2020, so there's no hope of getting you to admit trump's fascism.

You are all using the same tricks as the Holocaust deniers, and you are all no better than those people.

You make accusations absent evidence.

That makes you a dishonest moron.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

You make accusations absent evidence.

Actually I can see the evidence whereas you cannot.

That makes you a dishonest moron.

That makes you blind moron.