Another NATO Coup in Romania

[Zavulon]

You think you have a choice of what to say if you live in Russia?

Yes, of course. You can even write a funny song about those events.

You think that two former FSB agents actively working against Russia, both get assassination attempts with pretty serious stuff and it's "we don't know who did it"???

Exactly. Spy games are never obvious. They could be killed by anyone. By Brits, by Russians, by Americans, by Jews, by Muslims or whoever.

 

[Zavulon]

Okay, explain why two guy fly from one airport in Moscow, to another airport in London, and try and look like they're not traveling together, when they are. Then they fly back using completely different airports.

They get a hotel in London, nowhere near any transport hubs.

They go to Salisbury on the 3rd March and then leave pretty quickly, even though they supposedly wanted to go see the cathedral. Then go again the next day, walk in completely the wrong way, then walk towards the cathedral way, but only spend 2 hours in the city, with 45 minutes spend going suspiciously close to the Skripal's house.

You fly from MOSCOW to spend less than an hour in Salisbury town center?????? Bullshit.

They are "suspicious foreigners", it's true. May be they are smugglers, may be they are doping traders, may be they are homosexuals or anything else. I simply don't know.
But there are things I know for sure. Being "suspicious foreigner" isn't enough to be blamed in the capital murder in civilisated countries. Guilt should be proved not innocence. A foreign citizen in distress should have access to his country's representative. "Novichok" can't be a codename for a special purpose poison. Elimination squad can't consist of two soldiers. In described circimstances contact poison highly unlikely could be choosen as a weapon of liquidation.

And the simplest conclusion is here: Two Russian citizens got missed in the UK. Instead of acting according existing legal procedures - HMG tells crazy stories about suspicious foreigners and "Russian poisoners". So, highly likely HMG hide something and highly likely it was HMG who murdered two Russian citizens just to raise a wave of anti-Russian hysteria.

 

[Zavulon]

You're not saying anything other than "no, you're wrong" without anything to support you. Typical Russia disinformation campaign.

Because you are wrong. And what of my statements needs a support? That a person can't be blamed in the capital murder basing exclusively on being "suspicious foreigner"?

 

[Zavulon]

Why would they risk it? Because it's their job and it'll improve their careers. If they get caught, a few years in prison before being on the good end of a prisoner swap.

Thing is, security is hardest when LEAVING a country. When entering, especially if you have no big luggage is easy, just walk through the nothing to declare section. The UK is so lax when it comes to that kind of thing. If the novichok is on your person, there's a minimal chance they'll find it.

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Doesn't look loke they're smiling into the camera, does it?

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Doesn't look like he's smiling or looking into the camera, does it?

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Doesn't look like they're smiling or looking into the camera, does it?




Here's an easier one, because it's a video.

And the second day, they don't walk to the cathedral, they walk away from the cathedral to some random place that just happens to be close to where the Skripals live. Then an hour later end up back at the train station, then go into Salisbury and the old part. They arrived just before midday, they left at 1:40, and in those 2 hours, they manage to spend 45 minutes in the suburbs.... even though they were there the day before.

Sure, make sense. NOT

Any direct evidence of their involvement in the capital murder? No.
Were victims even given a possibility to talk with their legal defenders (representatives of the Russian Federation)? No.

That's more than enough to destroy the case in any US (or Russian) court.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yes, of course. You can even write a funny song about those events.


Exactly. Spy games are never obvious. They could be killed by anyone. By Brits, by Russians, by Americans, by Jews, by Muslims or whoever.

Yes, let's pretend we're idiots, and pretend it could be anyone. Except Putin of course, the guy loves little kittens, ahhh (with ketchup of course).

 

[frigidweirdo]

They are "suspicious foreigners", it's true. May be they are smugglers, may be they are doping traders, may be they are homosexuals or anything else. I simply don't know.
But there are things I know for sure. Being "suspicious foreigner" isn't enough to be blamed in the capital murder in civilisated countries. Guilt should be proved not innocence. A foreign citizen in distress should have access to his country's representative. "Novichok" can't be a codename for a special purpose poison. Elimination squad can't consist of two soldiers. In described circimstances contact poison highly unlikely could be choosen as a weapon of liquidation.

And the simplest conclusion is here: Two Russian citizens got missed in the UK. Instead of acting according existing legal procedures - HMG tells crazy stories about suspicious foreigners and "Russian poisoners". So, highly likely HMG hide something and highly likely it was HMG who murdered two Russian citizens just to raise a wave of anti-Russian hysteria.

Well, they're not just suspicious foreigners, are they?

They're FSB officers.

And again, the "I don't know".... you don't seem to know a lot of things when it comes to Russians trying to murder people.

Yes, the "simplest conclusion", the one that gullible idiots would choose is....

Lucky for you, I'm not an idiot.

 

[Deadstick]

Why would they risk it? Because it's their job and it'll improve their careers. If they get caught, a few years in prison before being on the good end of a prisoner swap.

Thing is, security is hardest when LEAVING a country. When entering, especially if you have no big luggage is easy, just walk through the nothing to declare section. The UK is so lax when it comes to that kind of thing. If the novichok is on your person, there's a minimal chance they'll find it.

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Doesn't look loke they're smiling into the camera, does it?

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Doesn't look like he's smiling or looking into the camera, does it?

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Doesn't look like they're smiling or looking into the camera, does it?




Here's an easier one, because it's a video.

And the second day, they don't walk to the cathedral, they walk away from the cathedral to some random place that just happens to be close to where the Skripals live. Then an hour later end up back at the train station, then go into Salisbury and the old part. They arrived just before midday, they left at 1:40, and in those 2 hours, they manage to spend 45 minutes in the suburbs.... even though they were there the day before.

Sure, make sense. NOT

It'scler you have not arrived at Heathrow airport for some time, your explanation is bullshit, not even close so no cigar

 

[Deadstick]

Well, they're not just suspicious foreigners, are they?

They're FSB officers.

And again, the "I don't know".... you don't seem to know a lot of things when it comes to Russians trying to murder people.

Yes, the "simplest conclusion", the one that gullible idiots would choose is....

Lucky for you, I'm not an idiot.

You believe all this anti Russian bullshit because you want to believe it, that's all it is.

 

[frigidweirdo]

It'scler you have not arrived at Heathrow airport for some time, your explanation is bullshit, not even close so no cigar

And there ends the conversation. Bye.

 

[Zavulon]

Yes, let's pretend we're idiots, and pretend it could be anyone. Except Putin of course, the guy loves little kittens, ahhh (with ketchup of course).

Without real evidence, yes, it could be anyone. But, with HMG hiding truth and violating legal procedures... Ok, highly likely it were them.

 

[Zavulon]

Well, they're not just suspicious foreigners, are they?

They are. No more evidence of their guilty.

They're FSB officers.

Who said it? HMG? Hey, you can't be serious. And, as far as I know, even HMG said that they were GRU, not FSB.

And again, the "I don't know".... you don't seem to know a lot of things when it comes to Russians trying to murder people.

There are a lot of things that I know better (especially about Russians killing people). And what I know, it is pretty enough to say, that the whole second season of "The Russian Poisoners" is the utter unrealistic BS. Totally fabricated by a person who haven't a slightest idea how the Russians acually assasinate people.

Yes, the "simplest conclusion", the one that gullible idiots would choose is....

Lucky for you, I'm not an idiot.

And who are you if you really believe in this nonsense (I doubt that you do).

 

[frigidweirdo]

Without real evidence, yes, it could be anyone. But, with HMG hiding truth and violating legal procedures... Ok, highly likely it were them.

Highly likely, like 99.99% chance it was the FSB working on Putin's orders.

 

[Deadstick]

Highly likely, like 99.99% chance it was the FSB working on Putin's orders.

99.99% of who or what? by the way where are the Skripals no one has seen or heard of them since they left Hospital in Salisbury?

 

[frigidweirdo]

99.99% of who or what? by the way where are the Skripals no one has seen or heard of them since they left Hospital in Salisbury?

Er... if Russia is trying to assassinate you, you don't tell people where you are. Did people hear of the Skripals BEFORE Russia tried to kill them? No. Did you know who they were?

 

[Deadstick]

Er... if Russia is trying to assassinate you, you don't tell people where you are. Did people hear of the Skripals BEFORE Russia tried to kill them? No. Did you know who they were?

Yes they did hear of the Skripals before, and if Russia was trying to kill them i would have thought a high profile giving TV and radio interviews and book deals would be the safest place, it's been bullshit from the start i believe they are dead, you need to watch this vid again that's if you watched it the first time, it blows away the whole Skripal case for the circus it was.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yes they did hear of the Skripals before, and if Russia was trying to kill them i would have thought a high profile giving TV and radio interviews and book deals would be the safest place, it's been bullshit from the start i believe they are dead, you need to watch this vid again that's if you watched it the first time, it blows away the whole Skripal case for the circus it was.

Are you Craig Murray by any chance?