marvin martian
Diamond Member
Calling names without any actual evidence to support you kind of takes all the bite out of your insults if I'm being honest.![]()
There's overwhelming evidence that you're a dumb hick. Incontrovertible, in fact.
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
Calling names without any actual evidence to support you kind of takes all the bite out of your insults if I'm being honest.![]()
Sure there is....There's overwhelming evidence that you're a dumb hick. Incontrovertible, in fact.
I gave it to you a conclusion supported by the science you presented, and you rejected that conclusion, so I have to read between the lines to see your true intent.No, not in other words. Don't be a Simp coward. Either quote me or make your own argument but constructing this strawman for you to beat up in pain view of everyone is just sad. If a scientific counter argument, supported by more than just your say so, then let's see it.
Then the brain must be carefully checked to determine whether a person is in need of gender affirming medication or surgery.Well to be more specific your brain, rather than your genitalia, is where everyone's identity is constructed.
Now, you are being deliberately obtuse, and falling back on argument from authority. If the MRI’s show whether a person is transgender then it is MRI’s that should be consulted to determine the level of transgender care to provide.It’s not science according to you. Who are you? What real difference does it make to healthcare if you don't think it's science?![]()
Yes, my dude. If you don’t know that economics is a science, you should spend less time calling people bitches and more time reading.Science of economic?![]()
Your explanation was wanting.I explained that to you already lunk head.
I can explain it again but your failure to understand gender science is all on you.
Transgender men can get pregnant. Here's what they wish more people understood.
You shouldn't let science frighten you so much.![]()
Butbutbutbut Yale. Harvard! Web MD!there is No science that says that a woman is suddenly a man just because she wants to be.
Understand and analyze, yes.Would you be intelligent enough to comprehend it?
How often, exactly? More often than a non-transgender person has a brain with some similarities to the brain of the opposite sex? Is the difference large enough to be experimentally significant (that term has a specific meaning, so no guess. Show me.Research on the Transgender Brain: What You Should Know
Male, female and transgender brains
“The male and female brain have structural differences,” he says. Men and women tend to have different volumes in certain areas of the brain.
“When we look at the transgender brain, we see that the brain resembles the gender that the person identifies as,” Dr. Altinay says. For example, a
Let's look at the abstract from that one study (not "studies") that show that when people "perform tasks" the brain activity of transgender people "tends" to look like that of the gender they identify with ("or with which they identify" if the authors of the study had passed high school English).And the brain similarities aren’t only structural.
“We’re also finding some functional similarities between the transgender brain and its identified gender,” Dr. Altinay says.
In studies that use MRIs to take images of the brain as people perform tasks, the brain activity of transgender people tends to look like that of the gender they identify with.
Your generalizations sound more like mischaracterizations. Let's expand the scientific testing and results found from just one of the studies.
Brain structure and function in gender dysphoria | ECE2018 | 20th European Congress of Endocrinology | Endocrine Abstracts
It has been hypothesized that atypical levels of sex steroids during a perinatal critical period of neuronal sexual differentiation may be involved in the development of GD. In order to test this hypothesis, we investigated brain structure and function in individuals diagnosed with GD using magnetic resonance imaging (MRI). Since GD is often diagnosed in childhood and puberty has been proposed to be an additional organizational period in brain differentiation, we included both prepubertal children and adolescents with GD in our studies. First, we measured brain activation upon exposure to androstadienone, a putative male chemo-signal which evokes sex differences in hypothalamic activation (women > men). We found that hypothalamic responses of both adolescent girls and boys diagnosed with GD were more similar to their experienced gender than their birth sex, which supports the hypothesis of a sex-atypical brain differentiation in these individuals. At the structural level, we analyzed both regional gray matter (GM) volumes and white matter (WM) microstructure using diffusion tensor imaging. In cis-gender girls, larger GM volumes were observed in the bilateral superior medial frontal and left pre/postcentral cortex, while cis-gender boys had more volume in the bilateral superior-posterior cerebellum and hypothalamus. Within these regions of interest representing sexually dimorphic brain structures, GM volumes of both GD groups deviated from the volumetric characteristics of their birth sex towards those of individuals sharing their gender identity.
I never went to Yale. My cousin did but not Yale's medical school. Either way, that's kind of how for profit education works. Are you confused about capitalism as well? My cousin seems to sure appreciate the value she is getting from her computer science degree from Yale.![]()
so not science then, because if it worked t would be used in all cases.Because they don't MRI trans peoples brains just to satisfy the curiosity of bigots.
I am not your instructor. I presented an article with various studies and we can discuss the findings if you want but it appears you want to skip over those to satisfy other questions you have unrelated to studies themselves. These professionals didn't conduct these studies to satisfy your curiosity, they did them to test hypotheses. The question is what did the tests reveal.How often, exactly? More often than a non-transgender person has a brain with some similarities to the brain of the opposite sex? Is the difference large enough to be experimentally significant (that term has a specific meaning, so no guess. Show me.
This is not a comment on the findings but on supposed grammar issues....Let's look at the abstract from that one study (not "studies") that show that when people "perform tasks" the brain activity of transgender people "tends" to look like that of the gender they identify with ("or with which they identify" if the authors of the study had passed high school English).
And a personal attack against the professionals doing the study....Abstract
Introduction: Transsexuals harbor the strong feeling of having been born to the wrong sex. There is a continuing controversial discussion of whether or not transsexualism has a biological representation. Differences between males and females in terms of functional imaging during erotic stimuli have been previously described, revealing gender-specific results.
Aim: Therefore, we postulated that male-to-female (MTF) transsexuals may show specific cerebral activation differing from their biological gender.
Main outcome measure: Cerebral activation patterns during viewing of erotic film excerpts in functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI).
Methods: Twelve male and 12 female heterosexual volunteers and 12 MTF transsexuals before any treatment viewed erotic film excerpts during fMRI. Additionally, subjective rating of sexual arousal was assessed. Statistics were performed using the Statistical Parametric Mapping software.
So, the "task" they "performed" was watching porn. Only a Student Loan welfare dolee would think of watching porn as a task.
And now complaining about the size of the study even though there is no indication they meant this study to be a statistical analysis.....Twelve is not nearly a large enough number from which to obtain calid results. That's why the authors provide no statistical analysis.
But not the same porn their sis gender control group was turned on by. And while you're getting distracted by the fact that they used porn what they were really testing were the chemical responses in the brain to erotic stimuli.Results: Significantly enhanced activation for men compared with women was revealed in brain areas involved in erotic processing, i.e., the thalamus, the amygdala, and the orbitofrontal and insular cortex, whereas no specific activation for women was found. When comparing MTF transsexuals with male volunteers, activation patterns similar to female volunteers being compared with male volunteers were revealed. Sexual arousal was assessed using standard rating scales and did not differ significantly for the three groups.
So, they were all equally turned on by the porn. If this were a study of porn, by a marketing company, that would be important information.
You haven't said anything at all about the study that wasn't akin to a personal attack. No discussion yet to be had by you on the actual findings.Conclusions: We revealed a cerebral activation pattern in MTF transsexuals compared with male controls similar to female controls compared with male controls during viewing of erotic stimuli, indicating a tendency of female-like cerebral processing in transsexualism.
I'm not saying that hypothesis about transgenders having different brains could never be tested experimentally. It is ripe for a legitimate study.
So it's not a valid study according to you, random internet guy. That means a lot.If a valid study were done, using larger sample, double blind scoring, and a single isolated variabe (which requires randomization), and stastical analysis were performed that showed a significant difference between MTF transgenders and non-trangender male, and that difference is that the tranny brains are actual more like women than men, you got something there.
This study wasn't conducted in order to aid with diagnosis.Then we'd know it would be malpractice to provide "gender affirming care," on a person whose brain was not fully developed or did not show this difference.
Until that science comes in, we must use our common sense to know that cutting up kids is a crime and all perpetrators and conspirators belong behind bars.
I am not your instructor. I presented an article with various studies and we can discuss the findings if you want but it appears you want to skip over those to satisfy other questions you have unrelated to studies themselves. These professionals didn't conduct these studies to satisfy your curiosity, they did them to test hypotheses. The question is what did the tests reveal.
This is not a comment on the findings but on supposed grammar issues....
And a personal attack against the professionals doing the study....
And now complaining about the size of the study even though there is no indication they meant this study to be a statistical analysis.....
But not the same porn their sis gender control group was turned on by. And while you're getting distracted by the fact that they used porn what they were really testing were the chemical responses in the brain to erotic stimuli.
You haven't said anything at all about the study that wasn't akin to a personal attack. No discussion yet to be had by you on the actual findings.
So it's not a valid study according to you, random internet guy. That means a lot.
This study wasn't conducted in order to aid with diagnosis.
You obviously do not get science. The tests did not "reveal" anything if those questions cannot be answered. If those questions can be answered, then at best the tests did not prove the null hypothesis. If you don't know that that means, you are in over your head.I am not your instructor. I presented an article with various studies and we can discuss the findings if you want but it appears you want to skip over those to satisfy other questions you have unrelated to studies themselves. These professionals didn't conduct these studies to satisfy your curiosity, they did them to test hypotheses. The question is what did the tests reveal.
Lack of proper grammar indicates an intellectual weakness.This is not a comment on the findings but on supposed grammar issues....
Nothing personal, you just choose to take any disagreement as a personal attack, as do most Democrats.And a personal attack against the professionals doing the study....
If not a statistical analysis, what kind of analysis did they mean the study to be, if any?And now complaining about the size of the study even though there is no indication they meant this study to be a statistical analysis.....
Where does it say in your link that it was not the same porn? Maybe it does say that, but I did not see it.But not the same porn their sis gender control group was turned on by. And while you're getting distracted by the fact that they used porn what they were really testing were the chemical responses in the brain to erotic stimuli.
The findings were very weak. With such a small sample size, it amounts to an anectdotal story rather than an experimental study.You haven't said anything at all about the study that wasn't akin to a personal attack. No discussion yet to be had by you on the actual findings.
Yes, I'm a random internet guy. So are you. Not sure why you find that such an important fact.So it's not a valid study according to you, random internet guy. That means a lot.![]()
OK, maybe I should have asked this before: what do you think this means, since you have not chosen to discuss the findings of the study you posted?This study wasn't conducted in order to aid with diagnosis.
Moron, you should of read more closely. GDC is gender dysphoria in children. That study you cite does say 80% of children with GD grow out of it by puberty, it also says the intensity of GD is evidence of the persistence of GD after childhood.No study available knows exactly what the long-term repercussions are for children chemically deprived of puberty or subjected to sexual reassignment surgery, as in a mastectomy or the castration of underaged males to "transition" them. There are studies showing that up to 80% of children who actually have gender dysphoria, resolve it through puberty. By the time they're in their mid to late teens they're no longer dysphoric.
"Evidence from the 10 available prospective follow-up studies from childhood to adolescence (reviewed in the study by Ristori and Steensma28) indicates that for ~80% of children who meet the criteria for GDC, the GD recedes with puberty."
Gender dysphoria in adolescence: current perspectives.
It certainly seems to be having an affect on your snowflake feelings.The lunacy of allowing people to "choose their gender" and pronouns leads to the underpinning of sexual identity and creates chaos in society, increasing pain and suffering for everyone.
They themselves are often members of the LGTBQ community. A number of those detransitioners in recent news stories say they are masculine lesbians who were misdiagnosed as trans males. Tell me, how does the GOP feel towards allowing young masculine lesbians to express themselves or talk about their experiences with their peers or teachers or school counselors?The number of people now wanting to de-transition is growing fast and these individuals are being ostracized and demonized by the LGBTQA+ community.
You're mistaken. It doesn't matter how you feel about it you bigot because you're not in a position to dictate trans care and you never will be. Here's what the people who write the book on diagnosing and treating mental illness have to say about it.The consequences of that are much worse than enforcing or forcing people to recognize biological-based and traditional standards and values. It doesn't matter how you liberals feel about it. Gender dysphoria is a mental illness and should be recognized and treated as such, not as a cure or solution for anything.
When has looking back 100 years ever worked out well for bigots as far as public sentiment is concerned?It's a rare disease that is now being celebrated as a political statement and chosen identity, leading to millions of youth in the west falsely self-identifying as dysphoric and being in need of "transitioning" to the opposite gender. In 100 years people will look back at what is happening to us now as social hysteria, "people went bonkers back then" , "they lost their freaking minds" , and a lot of innocent people got hurt.
I believe these issues are going to lead the United States into a civil war if they're not "settled" ASAP. Eventually, the conservatives are going to put their foot down and there's going to be a war and the blue-haired "woke" queer-unicorn mob isn't going to fair too well in that conflict. Just sayen. Keep your liberal-nihilism to yourself.
Moron, you should of read more closely. GDC is gender dysphoria in children. That study you cite does say 80% of children with GD grow out of it by puberty, it also says the intensity of GD is evidence of the persistence of GD after childhood.
Factors associated with desistence and persistence of childhood gender dysphoria: a quantitative follow-up study - PubMed
Results: We found a link between the intensity of GD in childhood and persistence of GD, as well as a higher probability of persistence among natal girls. Psychological functioning and the quality of peer relations did not predict the persistence of childhood GD. Formerly nonsignificant (age at childhood assessment) and unstudied factors (a cognitive and/or affective cross-gender identification and a social role transition) were associated with the persistence of childhood GD, and varied among natal boys and girls.
Also if you scrolled a little down in your own link you would of seen this section on Treatment:
Reports of the outcomes of puberty suppression treatment in adolescents have shown reasonable safety and good outcomes regarding patient satisfaction and psychosocial functioning, but research is still scarce. Nevertheless, puberty suppression is not indicated in a considerable proportion of gender dysphoric minors because of several reasons, for example, severe psychiatric comorbidity, considerable instability of psychosocial support or onset of GD later during puberty and diagnostic uncertainty;38–40 nevertheless, more follow-up data even from patients who are fulfilling the criteria for “the Dutch model” are still needed.37
It certainly seems to be having an affect on your snowflake feelings.
They themselves are often members of the LGTBQ community. A number of those detransitioners in recent news stories say they are masculine lesbians who were misdiagnosed as trans males. Tell me, how does the GOP feel towards allowing young masculine lesbians to express themselves or talk about their experiences with their peers or teachers or school counselors?
You're mistaken. It doesn't matter how you feel about it you bigot because you're not in a position to dictate trans care and you never will be. Here's what the people who write the book on diagnosing and treating mental illness have to say about it.
What is Gender Dysphoria?
It is important to note that gender identity is different from gender expression. Whereas gender identity refers to one’s psychological sense of their gender, gender expression refers to the way in which one presents to the world in a gendered way. For example, in much of the U.S., wearing a dress is considered a “feminine” gender expression, and wearing a tuxedo is considered a “masculine” gender expression. Such expectations are culturally defined and vary across time and culture. One’s gender expression does not necessarily align with their gender identity. Diverse gender expressions, much like diverse gender identities, are not indications of a mental disorder.
When has looking back 100 years ever worked out well for bigots as far as public sentiment is concerned?
I'm no more impressed by threats from right wing cosplayers than I would any other random dork dressing up as Gandolf and telling me he's going to fry me with lightening bolts. You aren't the only one with guns you pussies. Nut up or shut up.
JebusThe democrat party is pushing this crap. They need to be sued also.