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There`s only one reason for these so called "gun safety" programs in schools and that`s to create more gun buyers. Anyone with a measurable IQ can see that. Eddie Eagle = Joe Camel.
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There`s only one reason for these so called "gun safety" programs in schools and that`s to create more gun buyers. Anyone with a measurable IQ can see that. Eddie Eagle = Joe Camel.
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I don't think that my daughter needs any experience with guns. You see, she is an ER nurse. She sees everything she needs to know about guns on virtually every shift. And BTW, she tells me that a 9MM does the most damage, among handguns.
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Boy...does the anti-gun nut puppet master have their hand up your ass to make you spew out their talking points word for word?
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Really....from the huffington post.....that is your source...why not just use a real rabid anti gun source like Everytown, or the old Handgun control Inc......
And this was taken apart a long time ago......
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No, the 9mm does NOT do the most damage among handguns. Not even close. It is the most common handgun though, so sh probably sees the damage done by them more often that say from a .357 or .44 or my personal favorite the .40.
And I don't understand how parents can be so stupid, I have hundreds of guns and it is virtually impossible that my kids could get ahold of one , let alone shoot someone.
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From the anti gun huffington post article...
You do realize that more people die from being killed by hands and feet than all long guns combined...rigth? and "Assault weapons" are an even smaller subset of long guns...right...? so banning hands and feet, and blunt objects, and knives and other cutting tools would be more effective at lowering murder rates than banning assault rifles...right?
That is why this article is such junk....it is opinion...and opinion based on anti gun fantasy, not real research.....
You do realize that more people die from being killed by hands and feet than all long guns combined...rigth? and "Assault weapons" are an even smaller subset of long guns...right...? so banning hands and feet, and blunt objects, and knives and other cutting tools would be more effective at lowering murder rates than banning assault rifles...right?
That is why this article is such junk....it is opinion...and opinion based on anti gun fantasy, not real research.....
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Fact, banning blacks would have a larger affect on crime than banning guns would have.
Banning either would be stupid.
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Here is a multi part rebuttal to the Huffington post anti gun junk.......
Debunking the Pro-Gun Myth Debunker - Part Deux - The Truth About Guns
“But Chicago is more violent than Houston!”
In the US gun laws are not uniform between or even within states. Chicago has tight gun laws, but the rest of Illinois does not and neither does Indiana. It was found that many of Chicago’s guns come from surrounding areas in the state or Indiana. Firearms travel from areas with loose gun laws to those with tight laws.
OK, let’s say this is true; the $64,000 question then becomes why aren’t the places with the loose gun laws violent? In other words why do criminals go to the trouble, risk and expense of transporting guns from, say, Houston, to Chicago? Why don’t they stay in Houston and commit their crimes there (the weather is certainly nicer 8 months out of the year)? Could it have something to do with the much higher risk of being shot by an armed homeowner in Houston?
In addition, despite Walker’s implication, it’s very rare for guns to be bought in a “loose” state with the intent of immediately moving them to a restrictive law state. Looking at the ATF’s trace data from Illinois, 79.2% of traced guns had a “time-to-crime” of more than 3 years. That’s the amount of time between a weapon’s purchase and its recovery at a crime scene. The ATF considers a TtC of 2 years or less to be strongly indicative that a firearm was trafficked.
In fact, Illinois’ 2010 average TtC was 21.3% higher than the national average which indicates thatfewer guns were trafficked to Illinois than other states. So what’s to blame for Chicago’s violence again, Walker?
Weak national regulations undermine attempts at gun control everywhere. The number of illegal firearms in circulation is a testament to the inadequacy of national gun laws. Most gun violence occurs with such weapons. There are also other factors that determine gun violence, but the guns themselves cannot be excused.
Hmm, who would have thought that criminals would use illegal guns to commit their crimes? And didn’t the so-called Lott-debunking Harvard studies Walker cited in Myth #1 present “gun availability” as thesole causative factor in “gun violence”? Most antis are content with trying to have it two (or more) different ways on a weekly basis, but Walker can’t even finish a single article without shooting himself in the foot. So to speak.
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From the first part of debunking the huffpo crap....
“More guns equal less crime!”
John Lott Jr. wrote a controversial book titled More Guns, Less Crime that has been debunked by peer review. The Harvard Injury Control Research Center discovered a positive correlation between gun ownership and violence. Since the 1970’s crime has been declining with gun ownership in the United States.
It’s amazing that people like Walker can keep a straight face when making statements like that. One of the most “controversial” things about Dr. Lott’s work when it came out was the idea of correlation and causation. Here are some of the variables Dr. Lott’s book took into account:
Yet the Harvard studies Walker links to look at homicide rates and gun availability. Period.
As for the peer-reviewed “debunking” of Lott’s work, since its publication there have been 29 peer-reviewed national studies by criminologists and economists on the topic. Eighteen of those supported his conclusions, ten found that shall-issue laws had no effect on violent crime and only one claimed an increase; a temporary increase of one single type of crime.
In addition Dr. Lott has made his entire dataset available to anyone who has asked; more than 45 different universities have taken advantage of this and not one unbiased & non-agendized academic group refuted Dr. Lott’s conclusions.
“More guns equal less crime!”
John Lott Jr. wrote a controversial book titled More Guns, Less Crime that has been debunked by peer review. The Harvard Injury Control Research Center discovered a positive correlation between gun ownership and violence. Since the 1970’s crime has been declining with gun ownership in the United States.
It’s amazing that people like Walker can keep a straight face when making statements like that. One of the most “controversial” things about Dr. Lott’s work when it came out was the idea of correlation and causation. Here are some of the variables Dr. Lott’s book took into account:
- Population
- Arrest rate by type of crime
- Unemployment rate
- Percentage of families headed by females
- Family poverty rate
- Median family income
- Per capita income
- Percentage of the population living below the poverty line
- Percentage of the population that is white
- Percentage of the population that is black
- Percentage of the population that is Hispanic
- Percentage that is female
- Percentage that is less than 5 years of age
- Percentage that is between 5 and 17
- Percentage that is between 18 and 25
- Percentage that is between 26 and 64
- Percentage that is 65 and older
- Median population age
- Percentage that is over 25 with a high school diploma
- Percentage that is over 25 with a college degree
- Other gun laws (waiting periods, background checks and additional penalties for using a gun in the commission of a crime
- Arrest rates for different crimes
- Conviction rates for different crimes
- Median sentences imposed for different crimes
- Median sentences served for different crimes
- Police hiring practices
- Policing practices (community policing, ‘broken-window’ policies, etc.)
- Number of police per capita
- Number of police on the streets
- Average time each officer spends on the street
- Price of marijuana in the community
- Price of cocaine in the community
- Etc. . . .
Yet the Harvard studies Walker links to look at homicide rates and gun availability. Period.
As for the peer-reviewed “debunking” of Lott’s work, since its publication there have been 29 peer-reviewed national studies by criminologists and economists on the topic. Eighteen of those supported his conclusions, ten found that shall-issue laws had no effect on violent crime and only one claimed an increase; a temporary increase of one single type of crime.
In addition Dr. Lott has made his entire dataset available to anyone who has asked; more than 45 different universities have taken advantage of this and not one unbiased & non-agendized academic group refuted Dr. Lott’s conclusions.
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A small price to pay for our second amendment freedoms
With 300 million guns, we have to put them somewhere. If a kid finds one.....that is how they learn
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You can't shoot up a movie theater or massacre first graders with a shopping cart......ya need a bad assed gun
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And both of those shooters got around all of your gun control laws......your background checks (and the same 2 guys would get past even new and improved "universal background checks" the same way) gun registration, gun licensing, and magazine limits.......
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Thanks to our second amendment freedoms, a three year old can shoot a one year old in the face
Is this a great country or what
Is this a great country or what
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Imagine if they had to use a shopping cart
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and 2 million other Americans can stop or prevent violent criminal attack and save lives...protecting their own families and the lives of others.....yes...this is a great country....
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