Another Big EV Fail

[AZrailwhale]

Our earliest automobiles had to be started with a hand crank. We don`t do that anymore, do we?

The government didn't mandate self-starters. The market did that because many people ended up with broken arms from starter crank "kickback".

 

[Cellblock2429]

The government didn't mandate self-starters. The market did that because many people ended up with broken arms from starter crank "kickback".

/—-/ interesting story on the self starter.
In 1910, Henry Leland was running Cadillac (this was before he had a spat with Billy Durant and left General Motors to start Lincoln). A friend of Leland’s, Byron Carter, had stopped while driving across the bridge to Belle Isle in the Detroit River to help a woman whose car had stalled on the bridge. She couldn’t hand-crank the car, so Carter gallantly tried himself. Unfortunately, the engine backfired, spinning the heavy iron crank into Carter’s jaw and breaking it. Carter’s jaw got infected, sepsis set in, and he died.

Carter’s death weighed heavily on Leland, particularly because the car in question had been a Cadillac. Leland approached Kettering about developing a safer alternative. Others had tried various self-starting mechanisms, even electric motors, but Kettering attacked the problem holistically.

Electric starter’s inventor Kettering was no crank - Hagerty Media

Generating social change and saving lives.

www.hagerty.com

 

[sealybobo]

/----/ No, you idiot. There is no one size fits-all for personal transportation. EVs have a place, as well as ICE and hybrids.

Thank you!!! We can now work together. The truth is, we can't do without coal and oil yet.

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

We`ll be long gone before most cars are EV. There is no one underground making enough oil to supply the world infinitely.

For people like you who are elderly, yes. But me as a 23 year old it is likely that I will see that.

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

Then you're on my side!!!! Don't you see???? Republicans here say EV's are stupid, waste of money, more expensive than gas and we SHOULD NOT BOTHER.

Sounds like you and me agree. It just took Elon Musk to bring us together.

Just like it took Trump to get AOC and Dick Cheney to endorse the same candidate. Who would have ever thought. Trump is uniting us.

Eventually there might be solar powered cars. I would welcome that. Those could technically be EVs, but powered by the sun.

 

[sealybobo]

Eventually there might be solar powered cars. I would welcome that. Those could technically be EVs, but powered by the sun.

Or wind powered cars.

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

Or wind powered cars.

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That car looks like a helicopter.

 

[sealybobo]

That car looks like a helicopter.

It is. Can you imagine how much wind you would need to get the propeller to rotate? It was a joke! That's a helicar. God I'd love to have one. Sitting in traffic, fuck that. Pull over, put out the propeller and take off above the traffic jam.

One time driving to Florida in February the expressway going the other way was a parking lot. Closed. I don't know what those poor people did or how long it lasted. I would go INSANE! If I didn't have a lot of gas I'd really freak out.

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

It is. Can you imagine how much wind you would need to get the propeller to rotate? It was a joke! That's a helicar. God I'd love to have one. Sitting in traffic, fuck that. Pull over, put out the propeller and take off above the traffic jam.

One time driving to Florida in February the expressway going the other way was a parking lot. Closed. I don't know what those poor people did or how long it lasted. I would go INSANE! If I didn't have a lot of gas I'd really freak out.

And if I was in LA, I would say "Screw this! I'm going airborne." Then I would fly to Arizona avoiding the Interstate 10 traffic in LA and California.

 

[sealybobo]

/—-/ Is the richest guy in the history of the world stupid?
Is the guy who built the largest car company in history stupid?
How about the US president who mandated EVs? Is he stupid?
How about the guy who decided to ship lithium batteries that way? Did he not know the risk? Is he stupid?

Well how stupid are Republicans for being agains going green?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/16/climate/clean-energy-investment-republicans/index.html

More than three quarters of announced clean energy investments are in Republican districts​

In states including Georgia, Arizona and Texas, House Republicans are seeing a deluge of cash and jobs flowing into their districts as companies use clean energy tax credits to construct factories to build EVs and their batteries, and as massive wind, solar, hydrogen and sustainable aviation fuel projects come online.

In Georgia’s 11th district, Rep. Barry Loudermilk has touted the construction of a massive EV battery factory by Hyundai and SK Battery America, which is projected to create more than 3,500 jobs. The factory comprises nearly 70% of the $7.4 billion that has flowed into his district.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Well how stupid are Republicans for being agains going green?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/16/climate/clean-energy-investment-republicans/index.html

More than three quarters of announced clean energy investments are in Republican districts​

In states including Georgia, Arizona and Texas, House Republicans are seeing a deluge of cash and jobs flowing into their districts as companies use clean energy tax credits to construct factories to build EVs and their batteries, and as massive wind, solar, hydrogen and sustainable aviation fuel projects come online.

In Georgia’s 11th district, Rep. Barry Loudermilk has touted the construction of a massive EV battery factory by Hyundai and SK Battery America, which is projected to create more than 3,500 jobs. The factory comprises nearly 70% of the $7.4 billion that has flowed into his district.

/—-/ Congress will glob onto any pork project for their districts they can. We don’t have the infrastructure to support EVs. Where are all the charging stations Biden promised? Why are manufacturers back peddling in EV production Volvo?

 

[hadit]

I was talking about EVs with my son and the thing we do not understand is why they did not make a huge push for hybrids first, get people use to them and let the technology for EVs get more advanced, and then push for EVs

That's the issue, the push. EV's will have a larger place in American vehicles, but trying to force them on people who are not ready for them is a mistake.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

That's the issue, the push. EV's will have a larger place in American vehicles, but trying to force them on people who are not ready for them is a mistake.

I agree especially when we never really pushed hybrids.

 

[hadit]

I agree especially when we never really pushed hybrids.

I agree. Hybrids make a lot of sense.

 

[Cellblock2429]

I was talking about EVs with my son and the thing we do not understand is why they did not make a huge push for hybrids first, get people use to them and let the technology for EVs get more advanced, and then push for EVs

/—-/ Because the environmental wackos want all or nothing now. They don’t want to wait a decade of hybrids slowing down their agenda. democRATs are all to happy to oblige.

 

[sealybobo]

/—-/ Congress will glob onto any pork project for their districts they can. We don’t have the infrastructure to support EVs. Where are all the charging stations Biden promised? Why are manufacturers back peddling in EV production Volvo?

Is Elon Musk stupid for having a EV car company?

Why is China working so hard on EV's? Because in 20 years they'll own the market. Especially when so many American manufacturers are "back peddling".

Maybe in 20 years we do what they do. Just buy one of theirs, strip it down and copy it.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Is Elon Musk stupid for having a EV car company?

Why is China working so hard on EV's? Because in 20 years they'll own the market. Especially when so many American manufacturers are "back peddling".

Maybe in 20 years we do what they do. Just buy one of theirs, strip it down and copy it.

/—-/ If you want an EV, buy one. Used ones are practically being given away at deep discounts.

 

[sealybobo]

/—-/ If you want an EV, buy one. Used ones are practically being given away at deep discounts.

I talked to my brother, a Republican, successful guy retired at age 55. I told him your guys position on EV's even he said "sealybobo, stop talking to idiots on the internet"

Clearly you're a partisan idiot. If EV was a waste of time Elon Musk wouldn't be doing it. And you suck his dick so this must be causing you cognitive dissonance.

 

[Cellblock2429]

I talked to my brother, a Republican, successful guy retired at age 55. I told him your guys position on EV's even he said "sealybobo, stop talking to idiots on the internet"

Clearly you're a partisan idiot. If EV was a waste of time Elon Musk wouldn't be doing it. And you suck his dick so this must be causing you cognitive dissonance.

/—-/ I have always believed there is a place for ICE, Hybrid and EVs, but there is no one size fits all.
Send this link to your brother and ask him if he still thinks I’m an idiot. More automakers are being forced to rethink their EV plans

 

[sealybobo]

Hundreds of drivers were stuck for hours at a dead standstill on the highway amid 100-degree heat because of another EV fail. A crucial highway connecting between Los Angeles and Las Vegas was closed for over 30 hours in intense heat. A tractor trailer carrying EV lithium ion batteries overturned and caught on fire. Due to the lithium-ion, water could not be added to the fire, so the batteries must be left to burn out on their own. The immediate concern was for the air quality in the region due to the highly toxic hydrogen cyanide, chlorine, and sulfur dioxide released into the air from the fire.

So far, all attempts to move the burned out 75,000 pound container have failed due to the enormous weight.

Another brilliant victory for the environment and climate change!!! Thank God this happened in California.

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https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/27/us/interstate-15-california-las-vegas-hazmat-fire/index.html

Tesla reported better-than-expected profit in its third-quarter earnings report on Wednesday.

Revenue increased 8% in the quarter from $23.35 billion a year earlier. Net income rose to about $2.17 billion, or 62 cents a share, from $1.85 billion, or 53 cents s share, a year ago.