Markle
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What preparation should have been done? Keep in mind that you cannot make tests ahead of time when you have no clue what you'll be testing.
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What preparation should have been done? Keep in mind that you cannot make tests ahead of time when you have no clue what you'll be testing.
Markle
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Specifically, how did President Donald Trump ignore the Coronavirus?
Published February 1, 2020
China slams Trump's coronavirus travel limits: 'Not a gesture of goodwill'
By Joe McDonald, Sam McNeil | Associated Press
[...]
On Friday, the United States declared a public health emergency and President Donald Trump and an order barring entry to foreign nationals, other than immediate family of American citizens and permanent residents, who visited China within the last 14 days, which scientists say is the virus’s longest incubation period.
'Unfriendly comments'
China criticized the U.S. controls, which it said contradicted the WHO’s appeal to avoid travel bans, and “unfriendly comments” that Beijing was failing to cooperate.
“Just as the WHO recommended against travel restrictions, the U.S. rushed to go in the opposite way. Certainly not a gesture of goodwill,” said foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying.
WHO Secretary-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said in Geneva that despite the emergency declaration, there is “no reason for measures that unnecessarily interfere with international travel and trade.”
[...]
China slams Trump's coronavirus travel limits: 'Not a gesture of goodwill'
China slams Trump's coronavirus travel limits: 'Not a gesture of goodwill'
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Published March 18, 2020
WHO haunted by January tweet saying China found no human transmission of coronavirus
The World Health Organization (WHO) is now haunted by a tweet it sent earlier this year when it cited Chinese health officials who claimed there had been no human transmissions of the novel coronavirus within the country yet.
The Jan. 14 tweet came less than two months before WHO declared COVID-19 to be a global pandemic.
"Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China," the organization had said.
It also relied on information from Chinese health authorities who have been accused of obscuring facts and figures during the course of the outbreak.
WHO haunted by January tweet saying China found no human transmission of coronavirus
Markle
Diamond Member
Specifically, what should President Donald Trump have done?
Markle
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WOW! Chris Wallace CALLS OUT a Stunned Pelosi for Pushing Tourism to Chinatown in Late February (VIDEO)
By Jim Hoft
Published April 19, 2020 at 11:03am
Back in late February, 4 weeks after President Trump banned flights from China from entering the US, Speaker Pelosi was out urging tourists to hit San Francisco’s Chinatown.
Jan 31 — President Trump banned flights from China.
Feb. 5 — Democrats blasted President Trump for his China travel ban.
Feb 24 — Pelosi was pushing tourism to Chinatown.
March 13 — NY Mayor DeBlasio encourages New Yorkers to go about their daily lives as usual.
Last week Pelosi deleted a video of herself on Twitter walking around in Chinatown on February 24 downplaying the Coronavirus and urging people to “come to Chinatown.”
WOW! Chris Wallace CALLS OUT a Stunned Pelosi for Pushing Tourism to Chinatown in Late February (VIDEO)
Markle
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Please show us your reliable source and working link showing that the COVID-19 had spread to other nations prior to President Trump banning travel from China.
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Since Chinese officials disclosed the outbreak of a mysterious pneumonialike illness to international health officials on New Year’s Eve, at least 430,000 people have arrived in the United States on direct flights from China, including nearly 40,000 in the two months after President Trump imposed restrictions on such travel, according to an analysis of data collected in both countries.
The bulk of the passengers, who were of multiple nationalities, arrived in January, at airports in Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York, Chicago, Seattle, Newark and Detroit. Thousands of them flew directly from Wuhan, the center of the coronavirus outbreak, as American public health officials were only beginning to assess the risks to the United States.
Banned flights or travel restrictions well the proclamation mentions travel restrictions
Here is his travel restriction
Proclamation on Suspension of Entry as Immigrants and Nonimmigrants of Persons who Pose a Risk of Transmitting 2019 Novel Coronavirus | The White House
highlighted those who were banned and those who would be allowed to travel. Meaning there were still flights from China.
The United States has confirmed cases of individuals who have a
severe acute respiratory illness caused by a novel (new) coronavirus
(“2019-nCoV”) (“the virus”) first detected in Wuhan, Hubei Province,
People’s Republic of China (“China”). The virus was discovered in
China in December 2019. As of January 31, 2020, Chinese health
oicials have reported approximately 10,000 confirmed cases of
2019-nCoV in China, more than the number of confirmed cases of
Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) during its 2003 outbreak.
An additional 114 cases have been confirmed across 22 other
countries; in several of these cases, the infected individuals had not
visited China. More than 200 people have died from the virus, all in
China.
Coronaviruses are a large family of viruses. Some cause illness in
people and others circulate among animals, including camels, cats,
and bats. Animal coronaviruses are capable of evolving to infect
people and subsequently spreading through human-to-human
transmission. This occurred with both Middle East Respiratory
Syndrome and SARS. Many of the individuals with the earliest
confirmed cases of 2019-nCoV in Wuhan, China had some link to a
large seafood and live animal market, suggesting animal-to-human
transmission. Later, a growing number of infected individuals
reportedly did not have exposure to animal markets, indicating
human-to-human transmission. Chinese oicials now report that
sustained human-to-human transmission of the virus is occurring in
China. Manifestations of severe disease have included severe
pneumonia, acute respiratory distress syndrome, septic shock, and
multi-organ failure.
Neighboring jurisdictions have taken swi action to protect their
citizens by closing o travel between their territories and China. On
January 30, 2020, the World Health Organization declared the 2019-
nCoV outbreak a public health emergency of international concern.
Outbreaks of novel viral infections among people are always of public
health concern, and older adults and people with underlying health
conditions may be at increased risk. Public health experts are still
learning about the severity of 2019-nCoV. An understanding of the
key attributes of this novel virus, including its transmission dynamics,
incubation period, and severity, is critical to assessing the risk it
poses to the American public. Nonetheless, the Centers for Disease
Control and Prevention (CDC) has determined that the virus presents
a serious public health threat.
The CDC is closely monitoring the situation in the United States, is
conducting enhanced entry screening at 5 United States airports
where the majority of travelers from Wuhan arrive, and is enhancing
illness response capacity at the 20 ports of entry where CDC medical
screening stations are located. The CDC is also supporting States in
conducting contact investigations of confirmed 2019-nCoV cases
identified within the United States. The CDC has confirmed that the
virus has spread between two people in the United States,
representing the first instance of person-to-person transmission of
the virus within the United States. The CDC, along with state and
local health departments, has limited resources and the public health
system could be overwhelmed if sustained human-to-human
transmission of the virus occurred in the United States. Sustained
human-to-human transmission has the potential to have cascading
public health, economic, national security, and societal
consequences.
During Fiscal Year 2019, an average of more than 14,000 people
traveled to the United States from China each day, via both direct and
indirect flights. The United States Government is unable to
eectively evaluate and monitor all of the travelers continuing to
arrive from China. The potential for widespread transmission of the
virus by infected individuals seeking to enter the United States
threatens the security of our transportation system and infrastructure
and the national security. Given the importance of protecting
persons within the United States from the threat of this harmful
communicable disease, I have determined that it is in the interests of
the United States to take action to restrict and suspend the entry into
the United States, as immigrants or nonimmigrants, of all aliens who
were physically present within the People’s Republic of China,
excluding the Special Administrative Regions of Hong Kong and
Macau, during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted
entry into the United States. I have also determined that the United
States should take all necessary and appropriate measures to
facilitate orderly medical screening and, where appropriate,
quarantine of persons allowed to enter the United States who may
have been exposed to this virus.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United
States, by the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws
of the United States of America, including sections 212(f) and 215(a)
of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), 8 U.S.C. 1182(f) and
1185(a), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code, hereby find
that the unrestricted entry into the United States of persons
described in section 1 of this proclamation would, except as provided
for in section 2 of this proclamation, be detrimental to the interests of
the United States, and that their entry should be subject to certain
restrictions, limitations, and exceptions. I therefore hereby proclaim
the following:
Section 1. Suspension and Limitation on Entry. The entry into the
United States, as immigrants or nonimmigrants, of all aliens who
were physically present within the People’s Republic of China,
excluding the Special Administrative Regions of Hong Kong and
Macau, during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted
entry into the United States is hereby suspended and limited subject
to section 2 of this proclamation.
Sec. 2. Scope of Suspension and Limitation on Entry.
(a) Section 1 of this proclamation shall not apply to:
(i) any lawful permanent resident of the United States;
(ii) any alien who is the spouse of a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent
resident;
(iii) any alien who is the parent or legal guardian of a U.S. citizen or
lawful permanent resident, provided that the U.S. citizen or lawful
permanent resident is unmarried and under the age of 21;
(iv) any alien who is the sibling of a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent
resident, provided that both are unmarried and under the age of 21;
(v) any alien who is the child, foster child, or ward of a U.S. citizen
or lawful permanent resident, or who is a prospective adoptee
seeking to enter the United States pursuant to the IR-4 or IH-4 visa
classifications;
(vi) any alien traveling at the invitation of the United States
Government for a purpose related to containment or mitigation of
the virus;
(vii) any alien traveling as a nonimmigrant under section 101(a)(15)
(C) or (D) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(15)(C) or (D), as a crewmember
or any alien otherwise traveling to the United States as air or sea
crew;
(viii) any alien seeking entry into or transiting the United States
pursuant to an A-1, A-2, C-2, C-3 (as a foreign government oicial or
immediate family member of an oicial), G-1, G-2, G-3, G-4, NATO-1
through NATO-4, or NATO-6 visa;
(ix) any alien whose entry would not pose a significant risk of
introducing, transmitting, or spreading the virus, as determined by
the CDC Director, or his designee;
(x) any alien whose entry would further important United States
law enforcement objectives, as determined by the Secretary of State,
the Secretary of Homeland Security, or their respective designees
based on a recommendation of the Attorney General or his designee;
or
(xi) any alien whose entry would be in the national interest, as
determined by the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Homeland
Security, or their designees.
(b) Nothing in this proclamation shall be construed to aect any
individual’s eligibility for asylum, withholding of removal, or
protection under the regulations issued pursuant to the legislation
implementing the Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel,
Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, consistent with the
laws and regulations of the United States.
Sec. 3. Implementation and Enforcement. (a) The Secretary of State
shall implement this proclamation as it applies to visas pursuant to
such procedures as the Secretary of State, in consultation with the
Secretary of Homeland Security, may establish. The Secretary of
Homeland Security shall implement this proclamation as it applies to
the entry of aliens pursuant to such procedures as the Secretary of
Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of State, may
establish.
(b) Consistent with applicable law, the Secretary of State, the
Secretary of Transportation, and the Secretary of Homeland Security
shall ensure that any alien subject to this proclamation does not
board an aircra traveling to the United States.
(c) The Secretary of Homeland Security may establish standards and
procedures to ensure the application and implementation of this
proclamation at United States seaports and in between all ports of
entry.
(d) An alien who circumvents the application of this proclamation
through fraud, willful misrepresentation of a material fact, or illegal
entry shall be a priority for removal by the Department of Homeland
Security.
Sec. 4. Orderly Medical Screening and Quarantine. The Secretary of
Homeland Security shall take all necessary and appropriate steps to
regulate the travel of persons and aircra to the United States to
facilitate the orderly medical screening and, where appropriate,
quarantine of persons who enter the United States and who may
have been exposed to the virus. Such steps may include directing air
carriers to restrict and regulate the boarding of such passengers on
flights to the United States.
Sec. 5. Termination. This proclamation shall remain in eect until
terminated by the President. The Secretary of Health and Human
Services shall, as circumstances warrant and no more than 15 days
aer the date of this order and every 15 days thereaer, recommend
that the President continue, modify, or terminate this proclamation.
Sec. 6. Eective Date. This proclamation is eective at 5:00 p.m.
eastern standard time on February 2, 2020.
Sec. 7. Severability. It is the policy of the United States to enforce
this proclamation to the maximum extent possible to advance the
national security, public safety, and foreign policy interests of the
United States. Accordingly:
(a) if any provision of this proclamation, or the application of any
provision to any person or circumstance, is held to be invalid, the
remainder of this proclamation and the application of its provisions
to any other persons or circumstances shall not be aected thereby;
and
(b) if any provision of this proclamation, or the application of any
provision to any person or circumstance, is held to be invalid because
of the lack of certain procedural requirements, the relevant executive
branch oicials shall implement those procedural requirements to
conform with existing law and with any applicable court orders.
Sec. 8. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this proclamation shall be
construed to impair or otherwise aect:
(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or
agency, or the head thereof; or
(ii) the functions of the Director of the Oice of Management and
Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.
(b) This proclamation shall be implemented consistent with
applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.
(c) This proclamation is not intended to, and does not, create any
right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in
equity by any party against the United States, its departments,
agencies, or entities, its oicers, employees, or agents, or any other
person.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this thirty-first
day of January, in the year of our Lord two thousand twenty, and of
the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred
and forty-fourth.
DONALD J. TRUMP
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Kilroy2
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Well then posted it again as it not that hard to post something.
You only presented an argument piece written by a journalist who really does not provide any proof but tells you what you want to hear. He is not a government, he is not any health care organization, he not even an expert on health care.
Is that your source.
Still you say - China has unambiguously said they will erase Taiwan and take them over) that has nothing to do with the documentation Taiwan provided the WHO regarding the corona virus outbreak in China well ahead of anyone else.
Make it simple for ya , Can a repub say something nice about a demo or are they too biased.
WHO first learned about the problem from the Chinese in Dec 30 as there was very little known and the virus was new. They were waiting for more information from China before declaring an emergency. They do not have the power to force anything from the Chinese, they have to get the information as the country. Still they were notified that there was a problem. By Jan 22 , the Chinese provided more detail and the WHO issued warnings.
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Did people actually watch that crap?Good to know we can always count on Hollywood to do the work of the Chinese Communist Party for them and save them $150 million in the process
The two-hour 'One World: Together at Home' event, led by the WHO and non-profit group 'Global Citizen' was broadcast across multiple television channels in the U.S. and overseas on Saturday.
The event's corporate sponsors and other donors have already given $150 million, earmarked for the WHO's COVID-19 Solidarity Response Fund, organizers said.
Earlier this month, President Donald Trump pulled all U.S. funding for the WHO, accounting for about half of the group's budget, pending an investigation into the group's handling of the pandemic, and particularly its relationship with China.
Anger at star-studded benefit to raise $150M for controversial WHO
The two-hour 'One World: Together at Home' event, led by the WHO and non-profit group 'Global Citizen' was broadcast across multiple television channels in the U.S. and overseas on Saturday.www.dailymail.co.uk
Markle
Diamond Member
Published February 1, 2020
China slams Trump's coronavirus travel limits: 'Not a gesture of goodwill'
By Joe McDonald, Sam McNeil | Associated Press
[...]
On Friday, the United States declared a public health emergency and President Donald Trump and an order barring entry to foreign nationals, other than immediate family of American citizens and permanent residents, who visited China within the last 14 days, which scientists say is the virus’s longest incubation period.
'Unfriendly comments'
China criticized the U.S. controls, which it said contradicted the WHO’s appeal to avoid travel bans, and “unfriendly comments” that Beijing was failing to cooperate.
“Just as the WHO recommended against travel restrictions, the U.S. rushed to go in the opposite way. Certainly not a gesture of goodwill,” said foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying.
WHO Secretary-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said in Geneva that despite the emergency declaration, there is “no reason for measures that unnecessarily interfere with international travel and trade.”
[...]
China slams Trump's coronavirus travel limits: 'Not a gesture of goodwill'
China slams Trump's coronavirus travel limits: 'Not a gesture of goodwill'
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Published March 18, 2020
WHO haunted by January tweet saying China found no human transmission of coronavirus
The World Health Organization (WHO) is now haunted by a tweet it sent earlier this year when it cited Chinese health officials who claimed there had been no human transmissions of the novel coronavirus within the country yet.
The Jan. 14 tweet came less than two months before WHO declared COVID-19 to be a global pandemic.
"Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China," the organization had said.
It also relied on information from Chinese health authorities who have been accused of obscuring facts and figures during the course of the outbreak.
WHO haunted by January tweet saying China found no human transmission of coronavirus
JoeB131
Diamond Member
Racist travel bans did nothing to stop the disease.
JoeB131
Diamond Member
Taiwan is kind of the Boy Who Cried Wolf when it comes to China. That's why their warnings were ignored. They've been crying wolf for 70 years now, which is why the world has tuned them out.
JoeB131
Diamond Member
You mean other than they are the ones keeping the next ten pandemics under control?
Naw, Cleetus, you don't don't needs you no science... You gots your guns to protects you from the Zombies.
They slowed it down. Had your pals, the chinese, not lied about it, the disease would have been contained. But nooo, lie they did, and now you try and blame trump because you are a paid Chinese troll.
JoeB131
Diamond Member
Again, Taiwan is the boy who cried wolf, no one takes them seriously because they've been saying shit like this for 70 years. The island of Formosa is part of China, if they invade it, it's not really our problem.
You see, this is where you are a bit confused. The problem with Czechoslovakia is that it never should have been a thing. The Sudatenland Germans wanted to be part of Germany. The Hungarians wanted to be part of Hungary. The Slovaks wanted their own country. This is why Neville Chamberlain wasn't about to put British boys in the ground for the Czechs.
They do nothing but travel the world 1st Class, stay at the most expensive hotels in the world, and fill their bank accounts, with our money.
JoeB131
Diamond Member
So you really think that our scientists just all took China's word for it, then? That they all had NO IDEA how coronaviruses (which have been known since the 1930's) work?
The thing was, we knew what this was and the danger it posed in DECEMBER. That's when the US intel community issued a warning. Trump ignored the problem until MARCH.
JoeB131
Diamond Member
That's right, Cleetus, them there doctors are all living high on your dime. They certainly aren't going to places with deadly infections to fight them.... Oh, wait, no, they are.
The sad thing about the right wing, their hatred for science is kind of counterproductive.
Tell you what, you stay home and cling to your guns and your bibles, and let the grownups fix this problem.
Yeah they aren't. That's the point dipshit.
Doctors Without Borders does more to help people in a month, than WHO does in a decade.
JoeB131
Diamond Member
Yes, I realize the Great Orange Cult Leader has told you to hate WHO because of his incompetence.
The entire budget of WHO is 2.4 Billion and covers the entire world.
The budget of Health and Human services is 69 Billion and just covers the US.
That was after Trump cut their budget, too.
So Trump cuts funding to organizations to deal with these problems and then you slap your head and wonder why we have these problems.
Whine all you want, Billy ray joe bob. The fact is WHO aided and abetted the Chinese with their epidemic. WHO HELPED the pandemic happen.
Only a complete moron, such as yourself, would continue to fund them.
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