And Yet Another Attack On Americans!

[westwall]

Four more years.

Wow. Look at that. Repub POTI reigned in what the wealthy were able to make and helped the poor and middle class. Funny how you can't seem to get that through your thick skull.

By 'reigned in' you mean eight years of no or even negative growth? Pass.

That is certainly obummers record.

Not in the slightest. Steady growth in jobs and the markets means you are doing well.

I know, that comes as a shock to you.

No , what is a shock to me is the fact that you actually believe their propaganda. You must be a public school graduate. You know one of those the obummer boys are gleefully describing as "stupid".

 

[Laughing-gas]

Most of the idiots that put him in office are members here. The official band of gobblers.

Surely you don't number amongst the Fox-viewing cohort?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Oh.....and one more Democrat policy that led us to the current disaster:

"FDR talked Congress into creating Social Security in 1935 and imposing the nation’s first comprehensive minimum-wage law in 1938.

While to this day he gets a great deal of credit for these two measures from the general public, many economists have a different perspective. The minimum-wage law prices many of the inexperienced, the young, the unskilled, and the disadvantaged out of the labor market.

For example, the minimum-wage provisions passed as part of another act in 1933 threw an estimated 500,000 blacks out of work. "
Great Myths of the Great Depression | Lawrence W. Reed

More facts you weren't taught in government school.


Look around....and remember those who put this party in office.

 

[Jack4jill]

This is Obama's fault? No.

Partly, yes. Clinton started it with NAFTA but obama's policies have hurt this country not helped it. HIS policies have caused businesses to leave this country in droves. Go ahead don't believe me but I do seem to recall a lot of you progs whining about companies leaving instead of paying taxes.

If the companies are leaving, why the steady job growth?

And you don't believe in Free Trade?

"The Big Lie: 5.6% Unemployment
The official unemployment rate, as reported by the U.S. Department of Labor, is extremely misleading.

Right now, we're hearing much celebrating from the media, the White House and Wall Street about how unemployment is "down" to 5.6%. The cheerleading for this number is deafening. The media loves a comeback story, the White House wants to score political points and Wall Street would like you to stay in the market.

While you are as unemployed as one can possibly be, and tragically may never find work again, you are not counted in the figure we see relentlessly in the news -- currently 5.6%. Right now, as many as 30 million Americans are either out of work or severely underemployed. Trust me, the vast majority of them aren't throwing parties to toast "falling" unemployment.

Right now, the U.S. is delivering at a staggeringly low rate of 44%, which is the number of full-time jobs as a percent of the adult population,..." The Big Lie: 5.6% Unemployment



a. ".... the number of Americans not in the labor force rose once again, this time to 93,194K from 93,175K, with the result being a participation rate of 69.45 or just above the lowest percentage since 1977, will merely catalyze even more upside to the so called "market" which continues to reflect nothing but central bank liquidity, and thus - the accelerating deterioration of the broader economy." Americans Not In The Labor Force Rise To Record 93,194,000 | Zero Hedge

Very steady, in a country growing older and retiring.

It appears your propaganda is not well though out. No surprise there.



Job Creation Isn’t Matching Population Growth


The decline in the participation rate has coincided with the longer-term deceleration in US growth. Back in the late 1990s, when the participation rate was at its peak, the economy was growing more than twice as fast as recent levels. Between 1996 and 2000, real US gross domestic product growth averaged 4.3%. Since then, GDP growth has averaged a relatively limp 1.8%, with growth never topping 3.5% for any given year. While there are a number of factors that help explain the declining growth rate – including slower productivity growth, slower population growth and the aftermath of the financial crisis – fewer people working is arguably contributing to the slowdown.


Job Creation Isn't Matching Population Growth - Market Realist

We are one of many dying nations, if not for immigration, and deregulation caused a housing crash we aren't even close to recovering from. Obama was supposed to fix all this, alone?

 

[Laughing-gas]

Must be Obama's fault.

Have you got a similar graph for women?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Four more years.

Wow. Look at that. Repub POTI reigned in what the wealthy were able to make and helped the poor and middle class. Funny how you can't seem to get that through your thick skull.

By 'reigned in' you mean eight years of no or even negative growth? Pass.

That is certainly obummers record.

Not in the slightest. Steady growth in jobs and the markets means you are doing well.

I know, that comes as a shock to you.

No , what is a shock to me is the fact that you actually believe their propaganda. You must be a public school graduate. You know one of those the obummer boys are gleefully describing as "stupid".

"You must be a public school graduate. "

Give credit where credit is due....this one is the 'public school poster child.'

It required constant and unwaivering support for every Democrat and every Democrat policy.....and unquestioned belief in anti-right propaganda.


Look around....and remember those who put this party in office.

 

[Dot Com]

 

[PoliticalChic]

Partly, yes. Clinton started it with NAFTA but obama's policies have hurt this country not helped it. HIS policies have caused businesses to leave this country in droves. Go ahead don't believe me but I do seem to recall a lot of you progs whining about companies leaving instead of paying taxes.

If the companies are leaving, why the steady job growth?

And you don't believe in Free Trade?

"The Big Lie: 5.6% Unemployment
The official unemployment rate, as reported by the U.S. Department of Labor, is extremely misleading.

Right now, we're hearing much celebrating from the media, the White House and Wall Street about how unemployment is "down" to 5.6%. The cheerleading for this number is deafening. The media loves a comeback story, the White House wants to score political points and Wall Street would like you to stay in the market.

While you are as unemployed as one can possibly be, and tragically may never find work again, you are not counted in the figure we see relentlessly in the news -- currently 5.6%. Right now, as many as 30 million Americans are either out of work or severely underemployed. Trust me, the vast majority of them aren't throwing parties to toast "falling" unemployment.

Right now, the U.S. is delivering at a staggeringly low rate of 44%, which is the number of full-time jobs as a percent of the adult population,..." The Big Lie: 5.6% Unemployment



a. ".... the number of Americans not in the labor force rose once again, this time to 93,194K from 93,175K, with the result being a participation rate of 69.45 or just above the lowest percentage since 1977, will merely catalyze even more upside to the so called "market" which continues to reflect nothing but central bank liquidity, and thus - the accelerating deterioration of the broader economy." Americans Not In The Labor Force Rise To Record 93,194,000 | Zero Hedge

Very steady, in a country growing older and retiring.

It appears your propaganda is not well though out. No surprise there.



Job Creation Isn’t Matching Population Growth


The decline in the participation rate has coincided with the longer-term deceleration in US growth. Back in the late 1990s, when the participation rate was at its peak, the economy was growing more than twice as fast as recent levels. Between 1996 and 2000, real US gross domestic product growth averaged 4.3%. Since then, GDP growth has averaged a relatively limp 1.8%, with growth never topping 3.5% for any given year. While there are a number of factors that help explain the declining growth rate – including slower productivity growth, slower population growth and the aftermath of the financial crisis – fewer people working is arguably contributing to the slowdown.


Job Creation Isn't Matching Population Growth - Market Realist

We are one of many dying nations, if not for immigration, and deregulation caused a housing crash we aren't even close to recovering from. Obama was supposed to fix all this, alone?

"We are one of many dying nations, if not for immigration, ...."

And another fallacy you're advancing!


"However, according to this report by the Economist, this view might be outdated.....

Focussing on the western-German city of Duisburg, the birth rate of foreign-born women (those holding foreign passports) has dropped precipitously since 1980 until today where native-born Germans are actually more fertile than the foreign-born population(measured as live births per 1000 women aged 15-44 years old).

As the Economist notes this is “saying something” since German women do not have “nearly enough babies to keep the population ticking over naturally”. (Having said that, the last three years on the graph provided with the article show the foreign-born fertility rate tracking upwards so that, if things continue in the same manner, it will overtake the native-born fertility rate in the next couple of years.)" MercatorNet: Are immigrants a boon for fertility rates?

And.....

"The collapse of the foreign-born fertility rate is not just a German phenomenon. As the Economist reports:

“Between 2006 and 2013 the fertility rate among Mexicans in America fell by 35%,compared with a drop of 3% among non-Hispanic whites. In the Netherlands, the immigrant fertility rate is now almost exactly the same as the native one. Even in Britain, where a quarter of births are to immigrants, statisticians reckon that immigration has raised overall fertility by a mere 0.08 children per woman.”

 

[Jack4jill]

Must be Obama's fault.

Have you got a similar graph for women?

 

[westwall]

Partly, yes. Clinton started it with NAFTA but obama's policies have hurt this country not helped it. HIS policies have caused businesses to leave this country in droves. Go ahead don't believe me but I do seem to recall a lot of you progs whining about companies leaving instead of paying taxes.

If the companies are leaving, why the steady job growth?

And you don't believe in Free Trade?

"The Big Lie: 5.6% Unemployment
The official unemployment rate, as reported by the U.S. Department of Labor, is extremely misleading.

Right now, we're hearing much celebrating from the media, the White House and Wall Street about how unemployment is "down" to 5.6%. The cheerleading for this number is deafening. The media loves a comeback story, the White House wants to score political points and Wall Street would like you to stay in the market.

While you are as unemployed as one can possibly be, and tragically may never find work again, you are not counted in the figure we see relentlessly in the news -- currently 5.6%. Right now, as many as 30 million Americans are either out of work or severely underemployed. Trust me, the vast majority of them aren't throwing parties to toast "falling" unemployment.

Right now, the U.S. is delivering at a staggeringly low rate of 44%, which is the number of full-time jobs as a percent of the adult population,..." The Big Lie: 5.6% Unemployment



a. ".... the number of Americans not in the labor force rose once again, this time to 93,194K from 93,175K, with the result being a participation rate of 69.45 or just above the lowest percentage since 1977, will merely catalyze even more upside to the so called "market" which continues to reflect nothing but central bank liquidity, and thus - the accelerating deterioration of the broader economy." Americans Not In The Labor Force Rise To Record 93,194,000 | Zero Hedge

Very steady, in a country growing older and retiring.

It appears your propaganda is not well though out. No surprise there.



Job Creation Isn’t Matching Population Growth


The decline in the participation rate has coincided with the longer-term deceleration in US growth. Back in the late 1990s, when the participation rate was at its peak, the economy was growing more than twice as fast as recent levels. Between 1996 and 2000, real US gross domestic product growth averaged 4.3%. Since then, GDP growth has averaged a relatively limp 1.8%, with growth never topping 3.5% for any given year. While there are a number of factors that help explain the declining growth rate – including slower productivity growth, slower population growth and the aftermath of the financial crisis – fewer people working is arguably contributing to the slowdown.


Job Creation Isn't Matching Population Growth - Market Realist

We are one of many dying nations, if not for immigration, and deregulation caused a housing crash we aren't even close to recovering from. Obama was supposed to fix all this, alone?

obama pushed policies that only benefited the wealthy. When the architect of obummer care states, in public, that they had to rely on lying and the collective stupidity of the American public to get it passed a thinking person would say to themselves, "hmmm. if it's so great why do they have to lie to me and rely on me being stupid to get it passed"?

I hate to break it to ya, but you're one of the stupid ones they relied on. What's sad is you could actually have used that moment to start educating yourself but no, you decided to double down on stupid.

 

[Laughing-gas]

Must be Obama's fault.

Have you got a similar graph for women?

Thanks! What's the problem then?

 

[westwall]

Must be Obama's fault.

Have you got a similar graph for women?

Sure they do. propagandists simply love graphs. They can make them look however they want them to. There are no facts involved in these though. They are simply pretty pictures to keep the morons amused.

 

[BluesLegend]

ummm..... unemployment is down and investments are up AS OPPOSED TO WHERE IT WAS WHEN HE TOOK OVER FROM HIS REPUB PREDECESSOR

You're welcome.

Since it was Obama and his pals in the Democratic party who spent 2006-2008 talking the economy into the ditch with their doom and gloom everything is horrible propaganda just so they could win back the White House, and since Dem's controlled congress for those 2 years, he is largely responsible for the mess in the first place.

 

[Jack4jill]

If the companies are leaving, why the steady job growth?

And you don't believe in Free Trade?

"The Big Lie: 5.6% Unemployment
The official unemployment rate, as reported by the U.S. Department of Labor, is extremely misleading.

Right now, we're hearing much celebrating from the media, the White House and Wall Street about how unemployment is "down" to 5.6%. The cheerleading for this number is deafening. The media loves a comeback story, the White House wants to score political points and Wall Street would like you to stay in the market.

While you are as unemployed as one can possibly be, and tragically may never find work again, you are not counted in the figure we see relentlessly in the news -- currently 5.6%. Right now, as many as 30 million Americans are either out of work or severely underemployed. Trust me, the vast majority of them aren't throwing parties to toast "falling" unemployment.

Right now, the U.S. is delivering at a staggeringly low rate of 44%, which is the number of full-time jobs as a percent of the adult population,..." The Big Lie: 5.6% Unemployment



a. ".... the number of Americans not in the labor force rose once again, this time to 93,194K from 93,175K, with the result being a participation rate of 69.45 or just above the lowest percentage since 1977, will merely catalyze even more upside to the so called "market" which continues to reflect nothing but central bank liquidity, and thus - the accelerating deterioration of the broader economy." Americans Not In The Labor Force Rise To Record 93,194,000 | Zero Hedge

Very steady, in a country growing older and retiring.

It appears your propaganda is not well though out. No surprise there.



Job Creation Isn’t Matching Population Growth


The decline in the participation rate has coincided with the longer-term deceleration in US growth. Back in the late 1990s, when the participation rate was at its peak, the economy was growing more than twice as fast as recent levels. Between 1996 and 2000, real US gross domestic product growth averaged 4.3%. Since then, GDP growth has averaged a relatively limp 1.8%, with growth never topping 3.5% for any given year. While there are a number of factors that help explain the declining growth rate – including slower productivity growth, slower population growth and the aftermath of the financial crisis – fewer people working is arguably contributing to the slowdown.


Job Creation Isn't Matching Population Growth - Market Realist

We are one of many dying nations, if not for immigration, and deregulation caused a housing crash we aren't even close to recovering from. Obama was supposed to fix all this, alone?

"We are one of many dying nations, if not for immigration, ...."

And another fallacy you're advancing!


"However, according to this report by the Economist, this view might be outdated.....

Focussing on the western-German city of Duisburg, the birth rate of foreign-born women (those holding foreign passports) has dropped precipitously since 1980 until today where native-born Germans are actually more fertile than the foreign-born population(measured as live births per 1000 women aged 15-44 years old).

As the Economist notes this is “saying something” since German women do not have “nearly enough babies to keep the population ticking over naturally”. (Having said that, the last three years on the graph provided with the article show the foreign-born fertility rate tracking upwards so that, if things continue in the same manner, it will overtake the native-born fertility rate in the next couple of years.)" MercatorNet: Are immigrants a boon for fertility rates?

And.....

"The collapse of the foreign-born fertility rate is not just a German phenomenon. As the Economist reports:

“Between 2006 and 2013 the fertility rate among Mexicans in America fell by 35%,compared with a drop of 3% among non-Hispanic whites. In the Netherlands, the immigrant fertility rate is now almost exactly the same as the native one. Even in Britain, where a quarter of births are to immigrants, statisticians reckon that immigration has raised overall fertility by a mere 0.08 children per woman.”

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

On his way out the door, Barack Hussein Obama is rushing to hammer one more nail in the coffin of the American economy.....that HE killed.

One fine word sums up that grossly erroneous and fabricated statement... HORSESHIT!

Another faulty premise opening another failed OP!

 

[NYcarbineer]

On his way out the door, Barack Hussein Obama is rushing to hammer one more nail in the coffin of the American economy.....that HE killed.



1. "Obama races to cement the big Pacific Rim trade deal that all his potential successors oppose

2. ...Obama is racing against the clock to cement a massive Pacific Rim trade deal that all of his potential successors oppose,....

3. Ordinarily, a presidential administration would wait until Congress ratifies a trade agreement before putting it into force with member nations. But with just eight months left in office and presidential candidates Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders all against the deal, Obama and his advisors appear to have concluded that they must speed up that lengthy process to preserve the trade pact.




4. ....both Democratic and Republican leaders in Congress have said they are reluctant to bring the measure to a vote during the heat of a presidential campaign in which the three remaining presidential contenders are avowed opponents.

5. ....critics in Congress were particularly skeptical of what they saw as overly generous terms for Vietnam to comply with new labor and environmental standards of the deal,....





6. .....a report from the International Trade Commission released last week, which found that the deal would boost U.S. annual real income by only a modest $57.3 billion by 2032, gave ammunition to opponents in organized labor who said its potential impact on U.S. manufacturing was too severe.


7. "[The] report is so damaging that any reasonable observer would have to wonder why the administration or Congress would spend even one more day trying to turn this disastrous proposal into a reality," AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka said."
Obama races to cement the big Pacific Rim trade deal that all his potential successors oppose





Just one more attempt by this tin-pot dictator, the titular head of the LGBT movement, to impose policies that will injure the American people.

Look around....and remember those who put this man in office.

Let's look at where PoliticalChic's beloved Republican stands on the issue:

On Free Trade: Restore presidential Trade Promotion Authority

International trade is crucial for our economy. It means more American jobs, higher wages, & a better standard of living. The Free Trade Agreements negotiated with friendly democracies facilitated the creation of nearly ten million jobs supported by our exports. That record makes all the more deplorable the current Administration's slowness in completing agreements begun by its predecessor and its failure to pursue any new trade agreements with friendly nations.

We call for the restoration of presidential Trade Promotion Authority. It will ensure up or down votes in Congress on any new trade agreements, without meddling by special interests. A Republican President will complete negotiations for a Trans-Pacific Partnership to open rapidly developing Asian markets to US products. Beyond that, we envision a worldwide multilateral agreement among nations committed to the principles of open markets, what has been called a "Reagan Economic Zone," in which free trade will truly be fair trade.

Source: 2012 Republican Party Platform Aug 27, 2012

 

[Jack4jill]

Must be Obama's fault.

Have you got a similar graph for women?

Sure they do. propagandists simply love graphs. They can make them look however they want them to. There are no facts involved in these though. They are simply pretty pictures to keep the morons amused.

Ah, so numbers don't matter to you to then, it's just ideology.

So be it.

 

[westwall]

Must be Obama's fault.

Have you got a similar graph for women?

Sure they do. propagandists simply love graphs. They can make them look however they want them to. There are no facts involved in these though. They are simply pretty pictures to keep the morons amused.

Ah, so numbers don't matter to you to then, it's just ideology.

So be it.

No. FACTS matter. You're posting up propaganda. I suggest you look up the meaning of the word.

 

[Laughing-gas]

Must be Obama's fault.

Have you got a similar graph for women?

Sure they do. propagandists simply love graphs. They can make them look however they want them to. There are no facts involved in these though. They are simply pretty pictures to keep the morons amused.

Not quite, they overwhelmingly tend to depict trends visually in order to enhance comprehension of a particular topic.

 

[Jack4jill]

Must be Obama's fault.

Have you got a similar graph for women?

Sure they do. propagandists simply love graphs. They can make them look however they want them to. There are no facts involved in these though. They are simply pretty pictures to keep the morons amused.

Ah, so numbers don't matter to you to then, it's just ideology.

So be it.

No. FACTS matter. You're posting up propaganda. I suggest you look up the meaning of the word.

I am posting the facts, that's what these charts are. If you have better charts, post them instead of dismissing mine.

When the stock market is booming and job growth is steady just saying Obama ruined the economy isn't going to cut it. For the OP and people watching Fox it might but it doesn't play in the real world.