And what is wrong with 22 million americans losing health insurance under Trumpcare?

[ShootSpeeders]

That's the new dem talking point and it's BS . Obamacare is WELFARE and we all agree the welfare rolls need to be reduced. The 22 million who will lose their huge subsidies are free to go out and buy health insurance with THEIR money.

 

[Confounding]

Did you know universal healthcare is actually cheaper? Once you remove predatory insurance companies from the picture and people aren't scared of going to the doctor because of cost, the effect of preventative care really shines. People start going to the doctor and getting fixed when they notice a problem instead of waiting until it's a catastrophe and 500 times more expensive to fix. I saw the taxes of a friend from England once. He showed me where they deduct for his healthcare. The amount he paid was a small fraction of the cost of my health insurance.

 

[koshergrl]

That's the new dem talking point and it's BS . Obamacare is WELFARE and we all agree the welfare rolls need to be reduced. The 22 million who will lose their huge subsidies are free to go out and buy health insurance with THEIR money.

There is nothing wrong with it.

What is wrong is this..those people are going to lose health care anyway..they are losing it now under obamacare, because obamacare is nothing but a racket. I'm watching people in Oregon lose their coverage and have been watching it for years. If we repeal obamacare, they are going to blame that on us, and pretend that obamacare was working..which is exactly what they are doing.

I'm not sure I care at this point. Repeal it. **** replacement. I could care less if people have medical insurance or not. Insurance is a scam.

 

[Confounding]

That's the new dem talking point and it's BS . Obamacare is WELFARE and we all agree the welfare rolls need to be reduced. The 22 million who will lose their huge subsidies are free to go out and buy health insurance with THEIR money.

There is nothing wrong with it.

What is wrong is this..those people are going to lose health care anyway..they are losing it now under obamacare, because obamacare is nothing but a racket. I'm watching people in Oregon lose their coverage and have been watching it for years. If we repeal obamacare, they are going to blame that on us, and pretend that obamacare was working..which is exactly what they are doing.

I'm not sure I care at this point. Repeal it. **** replacement. I could care less if people have medical insurance or not. Insurance is a scam.

Republicans are literally the reason it wasn't more successful. It did fine in blue states, but red states stubbornly refused the federal funding provided for the program, making it painfully expensive and out of reach for many people. They are so intent on seeing Obama fail that they're willing to destroy good in the process. All politicians are sketchy and I tend to not trust any of them, but the right wing movement is evil.

 

[koshergrl]

That's the new dem talking point and it's BS . Obamacare is WELFARE and we all agree the welfare rolls need to be reduced. The 22 million who will lose their huge subsidies are free to go out and buy health insurance with THEIR money.

There is nothing wrong with it.

What is wrong is this..those people are going to lose health care anyway..they are losing it now under obamacare, because obamacare is nothing but a racket. I'm watching people in Oregon lose their coverage and have been watching it for years. If we repeal obamacare, they are going to blame that on us, and pretend that obamacare was working..which is exactly what they are doing.

I'm not sure I care at this point. Repeal it. **** replacement. I could care less if people have medical insurance or not. Insurance is a scam.

Republicans are literally the reason it wasn't more successful. It did fine in blue states, but red states stubbornly refused the federal funding provided for the program, making it painfully expensive and out of reach for many people. They are so intent on seeing Obama fail that they're willing to destroy good in the process. All politicians are sketchy and I tend to not trust any of them, but the right wing movement is evil.

Er..no, it is not doing fine in blue states. I'm in Oregon. And there is no way you can believe that ridiculous statement, so let me just say here, you are a bald faced liar.

Oregon ObamaCare co-op latest failure in troubled program

Oregon’s Obamacare Is A Crony Socialist Nightmare, Just Like Washington’s

Oregon Obamacare Scams: What They Are & How to Avoid Them

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/arti...disaster-showcases-havoc-wrought-by-obamacare

Oregon Obamacare Co-op Becomes 15th to Collapse

Oregon Health Plan application backlog at 43,000

The press has stopped reporting on the failures of obamacare in Oregon.

For example, the fact that OHP tosses applications that are more than a year old, without processing them. And there are a LOT of them.

 

[TNHarley]

Did you know universal healthcare is actually cheaper? Once you remove predatory insurance companies from the picture and people aren't scared of going to the doctor because of cost, the effect of preventative care really shines. People start going to the doctor and getting fixed when they notice a problem instead of waiting until it's a catastrophe and 500 times more expensive to fix. I saw the taxes of a friend from England once. He showed me where they deduct for his healthcare. The amount he paid was a small fraction of the cost of my health insurance.

How about we outlaw health insurance? Let prices go down naturally. I mean, if the govt wants to abuse its powers... at least do it right. Right?

 

[TNHarley]

That's the new dem talking point and it's BS . Obamacare is WELFARE and we all agree the welfare rolls need to be reduced. The 22 million who will lose their huge subsidies are free to go out and buy health insurance with THEIR money.

There is nothing wrong with it.

What is wrong is this..those people are going to lose health care anyway..they are losing it now under obamacare, because obamacare is nothing but a racket. I'm watching people in Oregon lose their coverage and have been watching it for years. If we repeal obamacare, they are going to blame that on us, and pretend that obamacare was working..which is exactly what they are doing.

I'm not sure I care at this point. Repeal it. **** replacement. I could care less if people have medical insurance or not. Insurance is a scam.

Republicans are literally the reason it wasn't more successful. It did fine in blue states, but red states stubbornly refused the federal funding provided for the program, making it painfully expensive and out of reach for many people. They are so intent on seeing Obama fail that they're willing to destroy good in the process. All politicians are sketchy and I tend to not trust any of them, but the right wing movement is evil.

Er..no, it is not doing fine in blue states. I'm in Oregon.

Oregon ObamaCare co-op latest failure in troubled program

Oregon’s Obamacare Is A Crony Socialist Nightmare, Just Like Washington’s

Oregon Obamacare Scams: What They Are & How to Avoid Them

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/arti...disaster-showcases-havoc-wrought-by-obamacare

Oregon Obamacare Co-op Becomes 15th to Collapse

Oregon Health Plan application backlog at 43,000

The press has stopped reporting on the failures of obamacare in Oregon.

For example, the fact that OHP tosses applications that are more than a year old, without processing them. And there are a LOT of them.

yea, your state is about to monopolized isnt it?

 

[Confounding]

Er..no, it is not doing fine in blue states. I'm in Oregon.

The press has stopped reporting on the failures of obamacare in Oregon.

For example, the fact that OHP tosses applications that are more than a year old, without processing them. And there are a LOT of them.

That sounds like more of a failure of leadership in Oregon than a good representation of the failure of Obamacare.

 

[Defiant1]

Er..no, it is not doing fine in blue states. I'm in Oregon.

The press has stopped reporting on the failures of obamacare in Oregon.

For example, the fact that OHP tosses applications that are more than a year old, without processing them. And there are a LOT of them.

That sounds like more of a failure of leadership in Oregon than a good representation of the failure of Obamacare.

I thought you people believed in choice and the right for all of us to make our own decisions regarding our bodies.

 

[TNHarley]

I dont see how people still try to defend o-care.. its a lost cause..

 

[Hum Dinger]

Did you know universal healthcare is actually cheaper? Once you remove predatory insurance companies from the picture and people aren't scared of going to the doctor because of cost, the effect of preventative care really shines. People start going to the doctor and getting fixed when they notice a problem instead of waiting until it's a catastrophe and 500 times more expensive to fix. I saw the taxes of a friend from England once. He showed me where they deduct for his healthcare. The amount he paid was a small fraction of the cost of my health insurance.

How about we outlaw health insurance? Let prices go down naturally. I mean, if the govt wants to abuse its powers... at least do it right. Right?

I agree. If Health Care insurance was illegal, the free market would determine the price of health care. Then the prices would drop like a rock...and so would a whole lot of people.....

 

[koshergrl]

I dont see how people still try to defend o-care.. its a lost cause..

They're lying, duplicitous pigs.
They defend it because they want the demise of freedom, and life. Sounds dramatic, but it's true.

 

[Anathema]

Did you know universal healthcare is actually cheaper?

The cost is irrelevant. It's unconstitutional, immoral, and disgusting. There is no need or mandate for the Government to steal money from me to pay for anyone's health care; including mine. It is my responsibility to provide whatever health services my family and I want or need.

 

[koshergrl]

Did you know universal healthcare is actually cheaper?

The cost is irrelevant. It's unconstitutional, immoral, and disgusting. There is no need or mandate for the Government to steal money from me to pay for anyone's health care; including mine. It is my responsibility to provide whatever health services my family and I want or need.

Bingo.

 

[bodecea]

That's the new dem talking point and it's BS . Obamacare is WELFARE and we all agree the welfare rolls need to be reduced. The 22 million who will lose their huge subsidies are free to go out and buy health insurance with THEIR money.

Especially red-staters.

 

[mudwhistle]

That's the new dem talking point and it's BS . Obamacare is WELFARE and we all agree the welfare rolls need to be reduced. The 22 million who will lose their huge subsidies are free to go out and buy health insurance with THEIR money.

That's a fake projection over 10 years.

It assumes tha Obamacare will sign up 22 million people the next 10 years forcing them to buy shitty insurance they can't afford and covers nothing when it comes to health care because of high deductibles.

It's like saying 22 million escaped prisoners are now homeless.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

 

[koshergrl]

That's the new dem talking point and it's BS . Obamacare is WELFARE and we all agree the welfare rolls need to be reduced. The 22 million who will lose their huge subsidies are free to go out and buy health insurance with THEIR money.

That's a fake projection over 10 years.

It assumes tha Obamacare will sign up 22 million people the next 10 years forcing them to buy shitty insurance they can't afford and covers nothing when it comes to health care because of high deductibles.

It's like saying 22 million escaped prisoners are now homeless.

Excrackly.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

 

[busybee01]

That's the new dem talking point and it's BS . Obamacare is WELFARE and we all agree the welfare rolls need to be reduced. The 22 million who will lose their huge subsidies are free to go out and buy health insurance with THEIR money.

It should be reduced by getting people good paying jobs so they don't need welfare benefits. This is not a Simon Legree society where we tell people who are struggling to make ends meet to drop dead.