An Ex Morman speaks about Robmoney

[JakeStarkey]

I have never join any LDS group neither do I use their terminology when talking about heaven you have.

And jake because you lie so much Just did some checking Mormons believe it's ok too lie.
According to this source.
Lying for the Lord - MormonWiki.org

When did you join and why did you leave, bigrebnc? I used the terminology because of this discussiion. Now, why did you leave? Why are you an apostate?

How many times must I repeat it? I have never been a Mormon nor is this about me. It's about you and your denial of why you support obama. If he wasn't a Mormon you would never support him. So stop making it about me.

This is about you. You were a Mormon and left, but you are lying about it. I know the terminology, just like you, but unlike you, I was never a member of the church. Why did you leave? Are you an apostate?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

When did you join and why did you leave, bigrebnc? I used the terminology because of this discussiion. Now, why did you leave? Why are you an apostate?

How many times must I repeat it? I have never been a Mormon nor is this about me. It's about you and your denial of why you support obama. If he wasn't a Mormon you would never support him. So stop making it about me.

This is about you. You were a Mormon and left, but you are lying about it. I know the terminology, just like you, but unlike you, I was never a member of the church. Why did you leave? Are you an apostate?

You are trying to make it about me to get around why you support Romney since you say it has nothing to do with his religion. Now if I was a Mormon why wouldn't I support Romney? Your stupidity will never stop will it?

 

[JakeStarkey]

I support Romney because he is more preferable to Obama. It has nothing to do with religion, otherwise I would support Obama who is more Christian (in my opinion). Now, you really should not accuse folks of things you know nothing about. I am not a Mormon, never have been, but I know some of the lingo. Apparently, you do, as well, and if you say you are not Mormon, OK. But don't be an ass, and not expect to get it kicked across the parking lot like I just did. Ese.

 

[Sallow]

Wow..the founder of Mormonism ran for President of the United States?

Didn't know that.

Gets crazier on a daily basis.

By Daniel Burke
Religion News Service

(RNS) For all the political hubbub over Mormonism, you might have thought Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman are the first Mormons to run for president.

In fact, 11 Latter-day Saints have campaigned for the White House, including the faith’s founder, Joseph Smith.

A barrage of bullets cut short Smith’s campaign in 1844. He was the first presidential candidate to be assassinated, according to historian Newell G. Bringhurst.
Well Before Romney, Joseph Smith, Mormon Founder Ran For President

 

[Sallow]

Romney's religion has nothing to do with his job as President. Period.

Romney attacked Obama on religion. Which in turn opens up a whole new door for Romney.

I applaud his devotion. And I'm glad he's a cleric. Conservatives should be more honest about their wish to turn the US into a theocracy.

Ralph Reed and his "guerrilla" campaign to have the Christian Coalition do it..was a little dishonest. No?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Sallow, look up "theocracy" in the dictionary, please. You don't understand what it means.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I support Romney because he is more preferable to Obama. It has nothing to do with religion, otherwise I would support Obama who is more Christian (in my opinion). Now, you really should not accuse folks of things you know nothing about. I am not a Mormon, never have been, but I know some of the lingo. Apparently, you do, as well, and if you say you are not Mormon, OK. But don't be an ass, and not expect to get it kicked across the parking lot like I just did. Ese.

A Mormon will support Romney and lie about the reason why.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Sallow, look up "theocracy" in the dictionary, please. You don't understand what it means.

"Theocracy" is what the Mormon ledership wants when the sh*t hits the fan:
White Horse Prophecy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Sallow]

Sallow, look up "theocracy" in the dictionary, please. You don't understand what it means.

"I hope I live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won't have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!" -Rev. Jerry Falwell, 1979

"I want to be invisible. I do guerilla warfare. I paint my face and travel at night. you don't know it's over until you're in a body bag. You don't know until election night." -Ralph Reed, Christian Coalition, 1991

1988 presidential bid

See also: United States presidential election, 1988

In September 1986, Robertson announced his intention to seek the Republican nomination for President of the United States. Robertson said he would pursue the nomination only if three million people signed up to volunteer for his campaign by September 1987. Three million responded, and by the time Robertson announced he would be running in September 1987, he also had raised millions of dollars for his campaign fund. He surrendered his ministerial credentials and turned leadership of CBN over to his son, Tim. His campaign, however, against incumbent Vice President George H. W. Bush, was seen as a long shot.

Robertson ran on a standard conservative platform. Among his policies, he wanted to ban pornography, reform the education system, and eliminate departments such as the Department of Education and the Department of Energy. He also supported a constitutional amendment requiring a balanced federal budget.

Robertson's campaign got off to a strong second-place finish in the Iowa caucus, ahead of Bush.[14] He did poorly in the subsequent New Hampshire primary, however, and was unable to be competitive once the multiple-state primaries began. Robertson ended his campaign before the primaries were finished. His best finish was in Washington, winning the majority of caucus delegates.[15][16] He later spoke at the 1988 Republican National Convention in New Orleans and told his remaining supporters to cast their votes for Bush, who ended up winning the nomination and the election. He then returned to CBN and has remained there as a religious broadcasting broadcaster.
Pat Robertson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Goodling is one of 150 graduates of Regent University who have served in this administration, as Regent's Web site proudly proclaims. Pretty impressive for a 29-year-old school. The university says that "approximately one out of every six Regent alumni is employed in some form of government work." And that's precisely what its founder desired. The school's motto is "Christian Leadership to Change the World." Former attorney general John Ashcroft teaches at Regent, and graduates have obtained senior positions in the Bush administration. The express goal is not only to tear down the wall between church and state in America but also to enmesh the two.

Justice's Holy Hires

It's a slow process..but conservatives are working over time to get us there.

Grats.

 

[Sallow]

Sallow, look up "theocracy" in the dictionary, please. You don't understand what it means.

"Theocracy" is what the Mormon ledership wants when the sh*t hits the fan:
White Horse Prophecy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Part and parcel with the conservative doctrine.

Theocracy.

Hmm hmm good.

 

[Buford]

Romney's religion has nothing to do with his job as President. Period.

Romney attacked Obama on religion. Which in turn opens up a whole new door for Romney.

I applaud his devotion. And I'm glad he's a cleric. Conservatives should be more honest about their wish to turn the US into a theocracy.

Ralph Reed and his "guerrilla" campaign to have the Christian Coalition do it..was a little dishonest. No?

When did Romney attack Obama on religion?

 

[Amelia]

Sallow, look up "theocracy" in the dictionary, please. You don't understand what it means.

"I hope I live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won't have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!" -Rev. Jerry Falwell, 1979

1988 presidential bid

See also: United States presidential election, 1988

In September 1986, Robertson announced his intention to seek the Republican nomination for President of the United States. Robertson said he would pursue the nomination only if three million people signed up to volunteer for his campaign by September 1987. Three million responded, and by the time Robertson announced he would be running in September 1987, he also had raised millions of dollars for his campaign fund. He surrendered his ministerial credentials and turned leadership of CBN over to his son, Tim. His campaign, however, against incumbent Vice President George H. W. Bush, was seen as a long shot.

Robertson ran on a standard conservative platform. Among his policies, he wanted to ban pornography, reform the education system, and eliminate departments such as the Department of Education and the Department of Energy. He also supported a constitutional amendment requiring a balanced federal budget.

Robertson's campaign got off to a strong second-place finish in the Iowa caucus, ahead of Bush.[14] He did poorly in the subsequent New Hampshire primary, however, and was unable to be competitive once the multiple-state primaries began. Robertson ended his campaign before the primaries were finished. His best finish was in Washington, winning the majority of caucus delegates.[15][16] He later spoke at the 1988 Republican National Convention in New Orleans and told his remaining supporters to cast their votes for Bush, who ended up winning the nomination and the election. He then returned to CBN and has remained there as a religious broadcasting broadcaster.
Pat Robertson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Goodling is one of 150 graduates of Regent University who have served in this administration, as Regent's Web site proudly proclaims. Pretty impressive for a 29-year-old school. The university says that "approximately one out of every six Regent alumni is employed in some form of government work." And that's precisely what its founder desired. The school's motto is "Christian Leadership to Change the World." Former attorney general John Ashcroft teaches at Regent, and graduates have obtained senior positions in the Bush administration. The express goal is not only to tear down the wall between church and state in America but also to enmesh the two.

Justice's Holy Hires

It's a slow process..but conservatives are working over time to get us there.

Grats.

Mormons aren't part of that group. Not by a long shot.

Mormons are almost as vested in the separation of church and state as atheist advocacy groups are.

Mormons know too well what it is like to be a minority faith and be oppressed by the majority. The protection against this is the separation of church and state.

 

[Sallow]

Romney's religion has nothing to do with his job as President. Period.

Romney attacked Obama on religion. Which in turn opens up a whole new door for Romney.

I applaud his devotion. And I'm glad he's a cleric. Conservatives should be more honest about their wish to turn the US into a theocracy.

Ralph Reed and his "guerrilla" campaign to have the Christian Coalition do it..was a little dishonest. No?

When did Romney attack Obama on religion?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwTYp5oJhG8]Romney claims Obama attacking religious at CNN Arizona Debate - YouTube[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PASk24IWX0]mitt Flipity-Flopity romney "Reverend Wright is Off Limits, But Not For Me" - YouTube[/ame]

Need more?

 

[Dot Com]

Goodling is one of 150 graduates of Regent University who have served in this administration, as Regent's Web site proudly proclaims. Pretty impressive for a 29-year-old school. The university says that "approximately one out of every six Regent alumni is employed in some form of government work." And that's precisely what its founder desired. The school's motto is "Christian Leadership to Change the World." Former attorney general John Ashcroft teaches at Regent, and graduates have obtained senior positions in the Bush administration. The express goal is not only to tear down the wall between church and state in America but also to enmesh the two.

Justice's Holy Hires

It's a slow process..but conservatives are working over time to get us there.

Grats.

If that was Monica Goodling, thangod she's toast

 

[Sallow]

Sallow, look up "theocracy" in the dictionary, please. You don't understand what it means.

Goodling is one of 150 graduates of Regent University who have served in this administration, as Regent's Web site proudly proclaims. Pretty impressive for a 29-year-old school. The university says that "approximately one out of every six Regent alumni is employed in some form of government work." And that's precisely what its founder desired. The school's motto is "Christian Leadership to Change the World." Former attorney general John Ashcroft teaches at Regent, and graduates have obtained senior positions in the Bush administration. The express goal is not only to tear down the wall between church and state in America but also to enmesh the two.

Justice's Holy Hires

It's a slow process..but conservatives are working over time to get us there.

Grats.

Mormons aren't part of that group. Not by a long shot.

Mormons are almost as vested in the separation of church and state as atheist advocacy groups are.

Mormons know too well what it is like to be a minority faith and be oppressed by the majority. The protection against this is the separation of church and state.

Is this incorrect?

The White Horse Prophecy is a statement purported to have been made in 1843 by Joseph Smith, Jr., founder of the Latter Day Saint movement, regarding the future of the Latter Day Saints (Mormons) and the United States of America. The Latter Day Saints, according to the prophecy, would "go to the Rocky Mountains and ... be a great and mighty people", identified figuratively with the White Horse described in the Revelation of John. The prophecy further predicts that the United States Constitution will one day "hang like a thread" and will be saved "by the efforts of the White Horse".[1]

Some have speculated, on the basis of the White Horse Prophecy, that Mormons expect the United States to eventually become a theocracy dominated by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church).[2][3] The authenticity of the prophecy as a whole, which was not made public until long after Smith's death, is debated, and the leadership of the LDS Church has stated that "the so-called 'White Horse Prophecy' ... is not embraced as Church doctrine."[4] However, the belief that members of the LDS Church will one day need to take action to save the imperiled US Constitution has been attributed to Smith in several sources and has been discussed in an approving fashion by Brigham Young and other LDS leaders.

Several prominent Mormons have made statements related to the White Horse Prophecy. For instance, US presidential candidate Mitt Romney has said he considers the White Horse Prophecy to be a matter of "speculation and discussion by [LDS] church members" and "not official [LDS] church doctrine
White Horse Prophecy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Did Joseph Smith run for the Presidency of the United States?

 

[Buford]

Romney attacked Obama on religion. Which in turn opens up a whole new door for Romney.

I applaud his devotion. And I'm glad he's a cleric. Conservatives should be more honest about their wish to turn the US into a theocracy.

Ralph Reed and his "guerrilla" campaign to have the Christian Coalition do it..was a little dishonest. No?

When did Romney attack Obama on religion?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwTYp5oJhG8]Romney claims Obama attacking religious at CNN Arizona Debate - YouTube[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PASk24IWX0]mitt Flipity-Flopity romney "Reverend Wright is Off Limits, But Not For Me" - YouTube[/ame]

Need more?

The first video is about "policy" and is legitimate.

The second video is about Rev. Wright's message. Do you agree with Rev. Wright's message?

 

[Buford]

It's a slow process..but conservatives are working over time to get us there.

Grats.

Mormons aren't part of that group. Not by a long shot.

Mormons are almost as vested in the separation of church and state as atheist advocacy groups are.

Mormons know too well what it is like to be a minority faith and be oppressed by the majority. The protection against this is the separation of church and state.

Is this incorrect?

The White Horse Prophecy is a statement purported to have been made in 1843 by Joseph Smith, Jr., founder of the Latter Day Saint movement, regarding the future of the Latter Day Saints (Mormons) and the United States of America. The Latter Day Saints, according to the prophecy, would "go to the Rocky Mountains and ... be a great and mighty people", identified figuratively with the White Horse described in the Revelation of John. The prophecy further predicts that the United States Constitution will one day "hang like a thread" and will be saved "by the efforts of the White Horse".[1]

Some have speculated, on the basis of the White Horse Prophecy, that Mormons expect the United States to eventually become a theocracy dominated by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church).[2][3] The authenticity of the prophecy as a whole, which was not made public until long after Smith's death, is debated, and the leadership of the LDS Church has stated that "the so-called 'White Horse Prophecy' ... is not embraced as Church doctrine."[4] However, the belief that members of the LDS Church will one day need to take action to save the imperiled US Constitution has been attributed to Smith in several sources and has been discussed in an approving fashion by Brigham Young and other LDS leaders.

Several prominent Mormons have made statements related to the White Horse Prophecy. For instance, US presidential candidate Mitt Romney has said he considers the White Horse Prophecy to be a matter of "speculation and discussion by [LDS] church members" and "not official [LDS] church doctrine
White Horse Prophecy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Did Joseph Smith run for the Presidency of the United States?

You're gonna have to step it up a notch and refrain from using Wikipedia. I don't even bother when I see Wikipedia listed as a primary source and neither does the founder of Wikipedia or college professors. Take it to the kiddie forum.

 

[Sallow]

When did Romney attack Obama on religion?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwTYp5oJhG8]Romney claims Obama attacking religious at CNN Arizona Debate - YouTube[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PASk24IWX0]mitt Flipity-Flopity romney "Reverend Wright is Off Limits, But Not For Me" - YouTube[/ame]

Need more?

The first video is about "policy" and is legitimate.

The second video is about Rev. Wright's message. Do you agree with Rev. Wright's message?

Legitimate?

No..it's not legitimate.

And what does my position on Rev. Wright have to do with Romney talking out of both sides of his mouth about Obama's religion?

Romney started this avenue of debate.

So..what's NOW legitimate..is to explore his beliefs.

To bad.

I initially have posted that as long as Romney left this stuff out..he was entitled to believe anything he wanted.

So long as it never enters policy making.

 

[peach174]

The part about the U.S. becoming a theocracy dominated the Church is not true.

He did run for Presidency.

Joseph Smith: Campaign for President of the United States - Ensign Feb. 2009 - ensign

 

[OldUSAFSniper]

Freedom of religion.... But ONLY if that person is a member of the 'approved' left.

I am an evangelical Christian conservative. And a member of the Tea Party. I will be voting for Mitt Romney not in spite of his religion and I will be working against Barry not BECAUSE of his religion (I guess black liberation theology is a type of religion). A man's religion is his own and he is free to worship or not worship as he sees fit. I know some very good people who are atheist; some very good people who are Jewish and Catholic; and some very good people who are Mormon.

I am voting for the man who I believe is most capable of running this nation and repairing the damage of the last four years. Bringing up what the Mormons said or believed over 150 years ago is like holding Deuterotomy as literal and asking a Christian why they don't stone people to death.

Get real... oh wait. This is TM's thread... this is as real as she gets...