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9. The claim of the Democrat Party, ironically, is that black folks are being held back by whites.
Typical of the belief of any who vote Democrat, this article by Dowd.


Matthew Dowd, “Us White Male Christians Need to Step Back and Give Others Room to Lead,” ABC News, September 30, 2018, https://abcnews.go.com/US/leadership-means-making- one-self-pensable-opinion/story?id=58193412ry?id=58193412

There is zero evidence of this claim and demand.


“… the transparent bigotry of this remark and the agenda being pushed in his column would have been sufficient to make American hairs stand on end. But bigotry on behalf of groups that are designated victims of oppression has become so ingrained in the politics of the Left, and so influential in the political culture at large, that Dowd’s comment passed unnoticed.

The very idea that blacks are “marginalized” is absurd. They are obviously front and center in America’s culture and consciousness, as well as in the distribution of race-based privileges and benefactions. Recognizing these facts is not to deny that a significant minority segment of the black population is poor and lives at the social margins.

But skin color can hardly be an explanation for their plight when the majority of black Americans are comfortably in the middle class and better off than the populations of any black-run society on earth. The view that blacks still suffer systemic racist oppression in America—that in order to advance they need white elites “to step back”—is a fiction that provides an excuse for failure, while also imbuing social justice advocates with a false sense of moral superiority.”
Horowitz, Op.Cit.


And there really is a test that proves how bogus the claim, and demand, is.
 
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10. This is the test: before any claims of oppression, or racism holding individual back, can be accepted, the Brookings Rules must be applied.



It has long been know that simple, traditional, rules would keep anyone....anyone....from ending up in poverty. They are no secret:


" The Brookings Institution has spent a great deal of effort studying this issue.
And presidential candidate Rick Santorum has been quoting their findings on the campaign trail.
Brookings whittled down a lot of analysis into three simple rules. You can avoid poverty by:

1. Graduating from high school.

2. Waiting to get married until after 21 and do not have children till after being married.

3. Having a full-time job.


If you do all those three things, your chance of falling into poverty is just 2 percent .Meanwhile, you’ll have a 74 percent chance of being in the middle class.

Applies to everyone
These rules apply to all races and ethnic groups. Breaking these rules is becoming more commonplace, unfortunately, for all racial groups."
Three rules for staying out of poverty





If an individual hasn’t followed the Three Rules…..no racism, or oppression exists: only a lack of personal responsibility.
 
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11. A dramatic representation of "marginalization, oppression", of black Americans, seems to support the Democrat claims.


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Racial disparities in income and poverty remain largely unchanged amid strong income growth in 2019

Democrats demand you draw the conclusion that oppression and racism explain the graph.



..but only if no explanation other than racism is allowed. And, with Democrats in charge, none is. And the same claim serves the hatred of America perpetuated by that party.
Yet it appears tenuous at best to attribute the current state of affairs in the black community to events that took place some eight generations ago.
And, of course, those events....slavery, segregation, lynching....were under the auspices of the Democrats.



“Once slavery was abolished by white males, freed black Americans spear-headed a Civil Rights Movement that eventually ended segregation and institutional discrimination. But they did so in an indispensable alliance with white Americans, who put their lives on the line and provided the financial and political support that made it possible to overthrow the Southern regime of segregation and Jim Crow.” Horowitz



Post #82 suggests a different analysis of the graph.
 
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12. There are a few questions that, one would imagine, should have occurred to the government school grads who have been manipulated by the Democrats/Progressives.

a. Wasn’t it the Democrats who kept blacks in slavery, even going to war to maintain that condition ?

b. If Democrats have actually worked to better the condition of black Americans for over half a century, if we can believe the hype, don’t the economic conditions graphed above indicate that either the Democrats are totally inept, or that they aren’t really trying?

c. Doesn’t history indicate how non-racist America really is?

"At least 620,000 combatants died during the four-year struggle; recent estimates put the total closer to 750,000, or more than 2 percent of the nation’s population at that time. More soldiers died in prison camps alone than America lost during the entire Vietnam War. Perhaps more to the point, some 350,000 Union soldiers died during the conflict, abolitionists in effect if not always in intent. Adjusted for population, that would amount to almost 5 million service deaths today, amounting to a blood sacrifice more than sufficient to redeem whatever moral or intellectual inconsistencies there are to be found in America’s founding documents.

And if that’s not sufficient? Well, then, nothing will be. But for most Americans—and for much of the rest of the world—it is more than enough. "
Blood Redemption

For more than a century, it was believed that 618,000 men died in the Civil War: 360,000 from the North and 258,000 from the South. But in recent decades, historians raised the number to an estimated 750,000 deaths, mostly blamed on the under-counting of Confederate casualties.



d. As far as that ‘systemic racism’ we hear about, why is it no one can quote any laws, regulations, statutes that impinge on black success?
 

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12. There are a few questions that, one would imagine, should have occurred to the government school grads who have been manipulated by the Democrats/Progressives.

c. Doesn’t history indicate how non-racist America really is?

"At least 620,000 combatants died during the four-year struggle; recent estimates put the total closer to 750,000, or more than 2 percent of the nation’s population at that time. More soldiers died in prison camps alone than America lost during the entire Vietnam War. Perhaps more to the point, some 350,000 Union soldiers died during the conflict, abolitionists in effect if not always in intent. Adjusted for population, that would amount to almost 5 million service deaths today, amounting to a blood sacrifice more than sufficient to redeem whatever moral or intellectual inconsistencies there are to be found in America’s founding documents.

And if that’s not sufficient? Well, then, nothing will be. But for most Americans—and for much of the rest of the world—it is more than enough. "
Blood Redemption

For more than a century, it was believed that 618,000 men died in the Civil War: 360,000 from the North and 258,000 from the South. But in recent decades, historians raised the number to an estimated 750,000 deaths, mostly blamed on the under-counting of Confederate casualties.
I don't know where you learned your history but the North didn't fight the Civil War to free the slaves, they fought it to keep the Union together.
 
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12. There are a few questions that, one would imagine, should have occurred to the government school grads who have been manipulated by the Democrats/Progressives.

c. Doesn’t history indicate how non-racist America really is?

"At least 620,000 combatants died during the four-year struggle; recent estimates put the total closer to 750,000, or more than 2 percent of the nation’s population at that time. More soldiers died in prison camps alone than America lost during the entire Vietnam War. Perhaps more to the point, some 350,000 Union soldiers died during the conflict, abolitionists in effect if not always in intent. Adjusted for population, that would amount to almost 5 million service deaths today, amounting to a blood sacrifice more than sufficient to redeem whatever moral or intellectual inconsistencies there are to be found in America’s founding documents.

And if that’s not sufficient? Well, then, nothing will be. But for most Americans—and for much of the rest of the world—it is more than enough. "
Blood Redemption

For more than a century, it was believed that 618,000 men died in the Civil War: 360,000 from the North and 258,000 froms the South. But in recent decades, historians raised the number to an estimated 750,000 deaths, mostly blamed on the under-counting of Confederate casualties.
I don't know where you learned your history but the North didn't fight the Civil War to free the slaves, they fought it to keep the Union together.


The Democrats began the war by attacking Sumter. This forced the North into war.


The Democrats so loved slavery that the went to war to maintain it.


Racism is integral with Democrat policy from then, to this day.



I challenge any Democrat voter to defend their party’s placing an outright racist in charge of the Department of Justice.
Bet there will be no takers, proving that, like trained seals, they simply vote as they are ordered to.

Kristen Clarke, put in power by the Democrat Party
... you voted for this:


"Kristen Clarke, Joe Biden’s choice to lead the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division, believes black people are superior to white people because they possess more melanin.

Fox News host Tucker Carlson obtained shocking statements Clarke made in 1994.

“Melanin endows blacks with greater mental, physical, and spiritual abilities — something which cannot be measured by Eurocentric standards.” Kristen Clarke wrote."
thespectator.info





“Melanin Endows Blacks with Greater Mental, Physical and Spiritual Abilities” (VIDEO)
Kristen Clarke, Joe Biden’s choice to lead the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division, believes black people are superior to white people because they possess more melanin. Fox News host Tucker Carlson obtained shocking statements Clarke made in 1994. “Melanin endows blacks with greater ment ...
thespectator.info




thespectator.info
 

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12. There are a few questions that, one would imagine, should have occurred to the government school grads who have been manipulated by the Democrats/Progressives.

c. Doesn’t history indicate how non-racist America really is?

"At least 620,000 combatants died during the four-year struggle; recent estimates put the total closer to 750,000, or more than 2 percent of the nation’s population at that time. More soldiers died in prison camps alone than America lost during the entire Vietnam War. Perhaps more to the point, some 350,000 Union soldiers died during the conflict, abolitionists in effect if not always in intent. Adjusted for population, that would amount to almost 5 million service deaths today, amounting to a blood sacrifice more than sufficient to redeem whatever moral or intellectual inconsistencies there are to be found in America’s founding documents.

And if that’s not sufficient? Well, then, nothing will be. But for most Americans—and for much of the rest of the world—it is more than enough. "
Blood Redemption

For more than a century, it was believed that 618,000 men died in the Civil War: 360,000 from the North and 258,000 froms the South. But in recent decades, historians raised the number to an estimated 750,000 deaths, mostly blamed on the under-counting of Confederate casualties.
I don't know where you learned your history but the North didn't fight the Civil War to free the slaves, they fought it to keep the Union together.
The Democrats so loved slavery that the went to war to maintain it.
Are you the same one who posted: "Doesn’t history indicate how non-racist America really is?"
 
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12. There are a few questions that, one would imagine, should have occurred to the government school grads who have been manipulated by the Democrats/Progressives.

c. Doesn’t history indicate how non-racist America really is?

"At least 620,000 combatants died during the four-year struggle; recent estimates put the total closer to 750,000, or more than 2 percent of the nation’s population at that time. More soldiers died in prison camps alone than America lost during the entire Vietnam War. Perhaps more to the point, some 350,000 Union soldiers died during the conflict, abolitionists in effect if not always in intent. Adjusted for population, that would amount to almost 5 million service deaths today, amounting to a blood sacrifice more than sufficient to redeem whatever moral or intellectual inconsistencies there are to be found in America’s founding documents.

And if that’s not sufficient? Well, then, nothing will be. But for most Americans—and for much of the rest of the world—it is more than enough. "
Blood Redemption

For more than a century, it was believed that 618,000 men died in the Civil War: 360,000 from the North and 258,000 froms the South. But in recent decades, historians raised the number to an estimated 750,000 deaths, mostly blamed on the under-counting of Confederate casualties.
I don't know where you learned your history but the North didn't fight the Civil War to free the slaves, they fought it to keep the Union together.
The Democrats so loved slavery that the went to war to maintain it.
Are you the same one who posted: "Doesn’t history indicate how non-racist America really is?"


Of course, and I am correct.

Democrats are not American ....

And here is the explanation:

There are only three things important to the Democrat program, agenda.....Race, Class, and Gender.
Not liberty, not religious freedom, not prosperity, not individuality, not tranquility.
Race, Class, and Gender.

“Cultural Marxism, though it’s dismissed by critics as a “term invented by the Right”, “was an undeniable school of thought taking Marxist categories of oppressed and oppressor beyond the economic realm and applying to it other forms of oppression: gender, race, sexuality.” Caldron Pool




These folks are not Americans, they are an ersatz version of European doctrines. America was founded on the views of Jefferson, Madison and Adams. To our detriment, European political science found a home here, in the works of Rousseau, Hegel and Marx.
And these foreign doctrines are the basis of Democrat policies.



“…found in Hegel…the embodiment of the ethical life of the nation….the idealization of the bureaucratic state administered by supposedly disinterested experts…[and] this ideal justified the conclusion that the separation of powers was an anachronism no longer necessary or even tolerable.”
George Will


The Nazis actually credited the Democrat Party for their views.
If you vote Democrat, you vote for the views that gave us WWll.



And once again you have reason to regret having been subject to government schooling, never reading a book.
 

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1. At this point in time, America has moved beyond the crossroads, beyond the tipping point. In full disclosure, I see no way back to the America of our Founders.

“So deep and intractable are the divisions that our most fundamental rights—to religious liberty, freedom of speech, and the presumption of innocence until proven guilty— are under relentless attack. We can no longer even agree on so basic a principle as the need for a legal immigration process to protect our sovereignty and civic culture….cast aside by Democrats bent on sabotaging Trump’s presidency, regardless of the effects of their defection on America’s national security….patriotic loyalty, which is now suspect as loyalty to “white nationalism” and “white supremacy.”
David Horowitz, “The Enemy Within”


2. Succinctly put, we can no longer look to shared American values with a party that opposes free speech, the second amendment, and the free practice of one's religion, whether individuals should be judged on their merits, or on the basis of their skin color, gender, and sexual orientation.

3. “Identity Politics,” …. is an ideology that is racial and collectivist, that privileges groups over individuals and demonizes those who fall on the wrong side of its social equations. As a worldview, Identity Politics is fundamentally at odds with America’s core principles of individual freedom, accountability, and equality, which have been the foundation of the nation’s progress for more than two hundred years.

Identity Politics is often referred to as Political Correctness, but it is more accurately understood as Cultural Marxism—the idea that American society is characterized by oppressive hierarchies, and thus divided into warring races, genders, and classes. Political Correctness is a term that describes a left-wing party line. It was coined by the mass murderer Mao Zedong in the 1930s to keep his followers under the heel of the Chi- nese Communist Party. Adherents of the progressive party line today regard white Americans, males, Christians, and Jews as “oppressors”— enemies—and themselves as warriors for social justice.”
Horowitz, Op. Cit.


4. There is the unanchored hope that enlightening those who have been co-opted by government school and state media, might see what has happened when the origins of what they have been tricked into accepting is presented. Here:

“According to Wikipedia, the phrase “Identity Politics” first appeared in a 1978 manifesto written by self-described black feminist “revolutionaries,” who were members of the “Combahee River Collective.” “We realize that the liberation of all oppressed peoples necessitates the destruction of the political-economic systems of capitalism and imperialism as well as patriarchy.” Combahee River Collective, “The Combahee River Collective Statement,” April 1977,
The Combahee River Collective Statement



We call the two roads 'Republican' and 'Democrat.'

Most, it appears, have chosen their route.
Sadly, many have been given the wrong directions.

Identity politics...like wooing the Evangelicals?
 
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And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
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1. At this point in time, America has moved beyond the crossroads, beyond the tipping point. In full disclosure, I see no way back to the America of our Founders.

“So deep and intractable are the divisions that our most fundamental rights—to religious liberty, freedom of speech, and the presumption of innocence until proven guilty— are under relentless attack. We can no longer even agree on so basic a principle as the need for a legal immigration process to protect our sovereignty and civic culture….cast aside by Democrats bent on sabotaging Trump’s presidency, regardless of the effects of their defection on America’s national security….patriotic loyalty, which is now suspect as loyalty to “white nationalism” and “white supremacy.”
David Horowitz, “The Enemy Within”


2. Succinctly put, we can no longer look to shared American values with a party that opposes free speech, the second amendment, and the free practice of one's religion, whether individuals should be judged on their merits, or on the basis of their skin color, gender, and sexual orientation.

3. “Identity Politics,” …. is an ideology that is racial and collectivist, that privileges groups over individuals and demonizes those who fall on the wrong side of its social equations. As a worldview, Identity Politics is fundamentally at odds with America’s core principles of individual freedom, accountability, and equality, which have been the foundation of the nation’s progress for more than two hundred years.

Identity Politics is often referred to as Political Correctness, but it is more accurately understood as Cultural Marxism—the idea that American society is characterized by oppressive hierarchies, and thus divided into warring races, genders, and classes. Political Correctness is a term that describes a left-wing party line. It was coined by the mass murderer Mao Zedong in the 1930s to keep his followers under the heel of the Chi- nese Communist Party. Adherents of the progressive party line today regard white Americans, males, Christians, and Jews as “oppressors”— enemies—and themselves as warriors for social justice.”
Horowitz, Op. Cit.


4. There is the unanchored hope that enlightening those who have been co-opted by government school and state media, might see what has happened when the origins of what they have been tricked into accepting is presented. Here:

“According to Wikipedia, the phrase “Identity Politics” first appeared in a 1978 manifesto written by self-described black feminist “revolutionaries,” who were members of the “Combahee River Collective.” “We realize that the liberation of all oppressed peoples necessitates the destruction of the political-economic systems of capitalism and imperialism as well as patriarchy.” Combahee River Collective, “The Combahee River Collective Statement,” April 1977,
The Combahee River Collective Statement



We call the two roads 'Republican' and 'Democrat.'

Most, it appears, have chosen their route.
Sadly, many have been given the wrong directions.

Identity politics...like wooing the Evangelicals?


“Identity Politics originated as an anti-American, Marxist ideology dedicated to America’s destruction. Identity politics is a totalitarian ideology that depicts all aspects of human activity—down to the use of pronouns—as political, therefore requiring management and control. It erases individuals by assigning them to categories that ignore their particular circumstances, achievements, failures, and choices. Individuals are judged first and foremost on the basis of their race, gender, and sexual orientation. These categories take precedence over their individual origins, attitudes, and achievements.”
Horowitz, “The Enemy Within.”



….today, simply an understanding of what you have agreed to.

The short version:

The Founders, classical liberals, conservatives
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.
“free markets, free voices, free people”

Fascists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Communists, Democrats
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.
 

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Democrats are not American ....
If most of the people in this country are not Americans maybe your definition of an American is unAmerican?
What a lack of self-awareness on your part: may are simply not bright enough to understand what they are supporting.

Raise your paw.
I'm well aware that a minority of people in this country don't get to decide who or what constitutes an 'American'. I know you hate democracy but, while the minority deserves to be protected, the will of the majority should prevail. If you prefer to have the minority dictate to the majority might I recommend relocating to North Korea.
 
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Democrats are not American ....
If most of the people in this country are not Americans maybe your definition of an American is unAmerican?
What a lack of self-awareness on your part: may are simply not bright enough to understand what they are supporting.

Raise your paw.
I'm well aware that a minority of people in this country don't get to decide who or what constitutes an 'American'. I know you hate democracy but, while the minority deserves to be protected, the will of the majority should prevail. If you prefer to have the minority dictate to the majority might I recommend relocating to North Korea.


"... I know you hate democracy...."

More proof that Democrats lie about everything.

But I do hate ignorance.
I don’t dislike you personally…it’s just that I’m a member of the Partnership For An Idiot Free America, so you’re on my list.



I don’t call myself a Liberal…I’m a conservative…but I am far more liberal than any Leftist because I’m an American, with American values, and those values are about individual liberty and freedom and the American ethic and the Bill of Rights and the Constitution and the privileges bestowed by God, not by the state. The other side views everything as bestowed by the power of the state because, in their mind, they were responsible for the death of God long ago. Everyone who votes Democrat may not be quite as far as the fringe radicals who have taken over their party, but they certainly are what Lenin called ‘useful idiots.’
And that would be you.
 

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Democrats are not American ....
If most of the people in this country are not Americans maybe your definition of an American is unAmerican?
What a lack of self-awareness on your part: may are simply not bright enough to understand what they are supporting.

Raise your paw.
I'm well aware that a minority of people in this country don't get to decide who or what constitutes an 'American'. I know you hate democracy but, while the minority deserves to be protected, the will of the majority should prevail. If you prefer to have the minority dictate to the majority might I recommend relocating to North Korea.


"... I know you hate democracy...."

More proof that Democrats lie about everything.

But I do hate ignorance.
I don’t dislike you personally…it’s just that I’m a member of the Partnership For An Idiot Free America, so you’re on my list.



I don’t call myself a Liberal…I’m a conservative…but I am far more liberal than any Leftist because I’m an American, with American values, and those values are about individual liberty and freedom and the American ethic and the Bill of Rights and the Constitution and the privileges bestowed by God, not by the state. The other side views everything as bestowed by the power of the state because, in their mind, they were responsible for the death of God long ago. Everyone who votes Democrat may not be quite as far as the fringe radicals who have taken over their party, but they certainly are what Lenin called ‘useful idiots.’
And that would be you.
I hear what you're saying, you value individual liberty and freedom for Americans, so long as those Americans share your values. If they don't they're unAmerican, liars, and/or idiots. Very liberal of you.
 
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Democrats are not American ....
If most of the people in this country are not Americans maybe your definition of an American is unAmerican?
What a lack of self-awareness on your part: may are simply not bright enough to understand what they are supporting.

Raise your paw.
I'm well aware that a minority of people in this country don't get to decide who or what constitutes an 'American'. I know you hate democracy but, while the minority deserves to be protected, the will of the majority should prevail. If you prefer to have the minority dictate to the majority might I recommend relocating to North Korea.


"... I know you hate democracy...."

More proof that Democrats lie about everything.

But I do hate ignorance.
I don’t dislike you personally…it’s just that I’m a member of the Partnership For An Idiot Free America, so you’re on my list.



I don’t call myself a Liberal…I’m a conservative…but I am far more liberal than any Leftist because I’m an American, with American values, and those values are about individual liberty and freedom and the American ethic and the Bill of Rights and the Constitution and the privileges bestowed by God, not by the state. The other side views everything as bestowed by the power of the state because, in their mind, they were responsible for the death of God long ago. Everyone who votes Democrat may not be quite as far as the fringe radicals who have taken over their party, but they certainly are what Lenin called ‘useful idiots.’
And that would be you.
I hear what you're saying, you value individual liberty and freedom for Americans, so long as those Americans share your values. If they don't they're unAmerican, liars, and/or idiots. Very liberal of you.



.....and, unlike Democrats, I don't censor them, take away their livelihood, or put them in concentration camps.

Good to see that you didn't deny that you are a 'useful idiot' for the party.
 

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The full time job must pay at least $25 per hour plus full benefits to start...otherwise one is in poverty in today's merica
 

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