An "Epstein Client List" from those who would KNOW

At least threads like this highlight who among MAGA are utterly reprehensible people. But not all of them are cheering for pedos.
 
Unfortunately, "fascist" isn't getting old. Uncle Donny makes it more and more relevant every day.
It's not getting old for the left. People on the right don't tend to flinch regarding it though. We're pretty used to that label along with racist, xenophobe, transphobe, sexist, bigot, etc.

Now that it's clear we're acceptable to kill for our views, being offended isn't really at the forefront of our thoughts. Taking appropriate defensive measures is.

While I'd like to see an unredacted list released, it's definitely become less of a priority, since we're apparently facing a potential civil war.
 
Allegations - Accusations are not facts. Particularly when paid by rabid DemCommee or GOVT funds to make the statement. But not in Court? No charges? No proof? Just story time napping hour? Its' over BoardStain.//
 
It's not getting old for the left. People on the right ...
I am so ******* done with the left/right horseshit.
We're pretty used to that label along with racist, xenophobe, transphobe, sexist, bigot, etc.
Hmmm.... maybe there's a reason for that, eh?
While I'd like to see an unredacted list released, it's definitely become less of a priority, since we're apparently facing a potential civil war.
You jerkoffs aren't going to get your civil war. The geography doesn't work. You're just going to ramp up totalitarian government.
 
I am so ******* done with the left/right horseshit.

Hmmm.... maybe there's a reason for that, eh?

You jerkoffs aren't going to get your civil war. The geography doesn't work. You're just going to ramp up totalitarian government.
Yes, there is a reason for it. It's because the left is incapable of civil discourse.

As for your prediction about totalitarian government, I kind of agree. That is a likely outcome, although at this point, it appears to be a situation where it's better to push for control of said government rather than to avoid the totalitarianism itself.

The majority of history shows us that libertarianism is the exception rather than the norm when it comes to society. This is part of why what's happening in Argentina right now is so interesting and enticing. Unfortunately, that's not really possible for this society.

So, in the absence of that possibility, it becomes a game of trying to maintain control of an increasingly burdensome state.
 
Yes, there is a reason for it. It's because the left is incapable of civil discourse.
Well, I'm not on the left and it's my observation that Trump is leading a fascist movement. And it's getting worse. That's not name calling, it's sober assessment of how he's running the government.
As for your prediction about totalitarian government, I kind of agree. That is a likely outcome, although at this point, it appears to be a situation where it's better to push for control of said government rather than to avoid the totalitarianism itself.
Exactly. Neither side has a problem with fascism, they each just want to be in charge of it.
 
Well, I'm not on the left and it's my observation that Trump is leading a fascist movement. And it's getting worse. That's not name calling, it's sober assessment of how he's running the government.

Exactly. Neither side has a problem with fascism, they each just want to be in charge of it.

I would argue we became a fascist country under FDR. After that, it's just been different variations of collusion between government and industry.

Also, most modern countries fit the economic components of fascism, if not the social ones.

People often conflate fascism with Hitler, but he was National Socialist rather than fascist. He did ally with fascists, however.

All this aside, I don't view all forms of fascism as undesirable. Franco certainly ran Spain better than his opposition would have, for example.
 
Well, I'm not on the left and it's my observation that Trump is leading a fascist movement. And it's getting worse. That's not name calling, it's sober assessment of how he's running the government.
I don’t think you know the definition of “fascist”.
Exactly. Neither side has a problem with fascism, they each just want to be in charge of it.
I don’t think that word means what you think it means.
 
I don't care what you think. I've read your posts before.
Ok so I KNOW you don’t know what it means based on that post. I was trying to be nice and not call you a moron. I guess that’s done.
 
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What are the fascist things that Trump has done that you object to?
Let's see - off the top of my head:

His revenge tour, using the power of the state to punish his opposition.
Using the military to invade cities and states that won't kiss his ass.
The general victim narrative that he sells, and MAGA laps up.
Rule by executive order, rather than the legislative process.
The obsession with loyalty and punishing anyone who doesn't placate it.
Scapegoating foreigners and other minorities.
Glorification of violence and militant imagery (Dept of War?)
Efforts to control the media and punish dissent there (Ministry of Truth)
Over the top fear mongering and conspiracy spinning.

Now, before you go into your denial dance and start serving up excuses, and all the reasons why its different when "your side" does it, you might not want to bother. I can't stop you of course, but I've heard most of the limp excuses already. If you're just listing those I won't respond. If you stumble on something new though, we might have something to talk about.
 
Let's see - off the top of my head:

His revenge tour, using the power of the state to punish his opposition.
Using the military to invade cities and states that won't kiss his ass.
The general victim narrative that he sells, and MAGA laps up.
Rule by executive order, rather than the legislative process.
The obsession with loyalty and punishing anyone who doesn't placate it.
Scapegoating foreigners and other minorities.
Glorification of violence and militant imagery (Dept of War?)
Efforts to control the media and punish dissent there (Ministry of Truth)
Over the top fear mongering and conspiracy spinning.

Now, before you go into your denial dance and start serving up excuses, and all the reasons why its different when "your side" does it, you might not want to bother. I can't stop you of course, but I've heard most of the limp excuses already. If you're just listing those I won't respond. If you stumble on something new though, we might have something to talk about.
I'll just say this. After what happened a few days ago, I don't see any alternative but to push further in the directions you dislike.

The left clearly is fine with killing its opposition, so that leaves only one other option.
 
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