An anti-gun leftist sees the truth, and understands the vital importance of the 2nd Amendment to our freedom and safety....

Yes, because their people are less violent.

The main cause of US violence now is the same as when it was high with Prohibition.
The War on Drugs entices by making profits high, but causes violence because dealers can't use credit cards, checks, banks, or police.

People are not less violent anywhere, nor can they be since we are all humans.
It is our bad laws, injustice, poverty, lack of opportunities, lack of health care, lack of education, etc., that causes violence in the US.
When you have such bad laws that we can have stupid and immoral legislation like Prohibition and the War on Drugs, then violence is deserved.
We likely should have another rebellion and just start over again.
The current regime is so corrupt, we have the largest % imprisoned in the world.
That is a strong indicator of total failure.
 
Most suicides are done by hanging. How will gun control put a stop to that?

Good point, and the 2nd most common suicide method is drug overdose.
Here are the suicide methods ranked by how common.

Apparently, a plastic bag over the head and car exhaust are the 2 most common forms of suicide.

But do we really want to prevent suicide?
What right to we have to force people to endure unbearable pain?
 
Good point, and the 2nd most common suicide method is drug overdose.
Here are the suicide methods ranked by how common.

Apparently, a plastic bag over the head and car exhaust are the 2 most common forms of suicide.

But do we really want to prevent suicide?
What right to we have to force people to endure unbearable pain?


And anti-gunners have to explain how South Koreans, Japanese, Chinese and Scots kill themselves more than Americans do....since those countries have extreme gun control.....and no, just because the Japanese don't have cultural prohibitions on suicide that doesn't make a difference.......that is their favorite go to to duck the question.....
 
Not because of Race, but because of Universal Welfare.



That doesn't appear to be true. The recent influx of third world immigrants from the middle east has brought with it a rapid rise in violent crime of all types, and gun crime, in countries with extreme gun control laws, is exploding.

Gun laws don't work with the criminal element, apparently.
 
That doesn't appear to be true. The recent influx of third world immigrants from the middle east has brought with it a rapid rise in violent crime of all types, and gun crime, in countries with extreme gun control laws, is exploding.
These people have been traumatized by war. In USA, Vietnam Veterans of all races brought a rapid rise in violent crimes. They were traumatized by war. They were ordered to commit war crimes.
 
These people have been traumatized by war. In USA, Vietnam Veterans of all races brought a rapid rise in violent crimes. They were traumatized by war. They were ordered to commit war crimes.
Stick it up your ass sideways. US troops were never ordered to commit war crimes and very rarely did. The NVA and VC, on the other hand, committed war crimes regularly as a matter of policy.
 
Stick it up your ass sideways. US troops were never ordered to commit war crimes and very rarely did. The NVA and VC, on the other hand, committed war crimes regularly as a matter of policy.
In Vietnam War about a million civilians died from US firepower.

In Korean War, over a million civilians died from US firepower. USA purposefully targeted civilians.
 
Words mean nothing to democrats and other leftists....which is why we need to keep them away from all forms of power....

I am extreme leftist, but have no trouble at all understanding the need for an armed population.
Basically it is the invention of the firearm equalizer that put monarchies out of business, by giving all people the technological advantage over their hired mercenary thugs.
Remove that firearm equalizer and we are back to feudalism.

And police and the military are no help at all.
Since the wealthy elite sign their pay checks, they do not really work for us.

Just go to any dictatorship in the world, and it is the police and military who enforce the evil corruption.
 
Stick it up your ass sideways. US troops were never ordered to commit war crimes and very rarely did. The NVA and VC, on the other hand, committed war crimes regularly as a matter of policy.

No, US troops are always constantly ordered to commit war crimes, and always did.

Mai Lai massacre was not the one off claimed, but was standard procedure, with "strategic hamlets" and "free fire zones".
The total was 3 million dead actually, and it was always obvious Ho Chi Minh was the hero who defeated the French.

The invasion of Iraq was not only an illegal war crime of an innocent sovereign nation, but done in the most awful and barbaric war crime possible, "Shock and Awe", eliminating food, water, and electricity to a desert region, killing half a million innocent civilians.

Even submarine warfare by the US was an illegal war crime, causing massive illegal starvation in both Germany and Japan.

Do I even have to mention Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
 
No, US troops are always constantly ordered to commit war crimes, and always did.

Mai Lai massacre was not the one off claimed, but was standard procedure, with "strategic hamlets" and "free fire zones".
The total was 3 million dead actually, and it was always obvious Ho Chi Minh was the hero who defeated the French.

The invasion of Iraq was not only an illegal war crime of an innocent sovereign nation, but done in the most awful and barbaric war crime possible, "Shock and Awe", eliminating food, water, and electricity to a desert region, killing half a million innocent civilians.

Even submarine warfare by the US was an illegal war crime, causing massive illegal starvation in both Germany and Japan.

Do I even have to mention Hiroshima and Nagasaki?


Moron, the Mai Lai was not standard procedure......

ho chi minh was a communist monster...just like mao....

You truly are insane....
 
Brett Weinstein is still an anti-gunner......he thinks guns are more harm than good......

He is wrong...but that isn't the point of this post....

Even though he still sees guns as more harmful than good.....he sees them as more good than harmful in the long run.......

As a young man I regarded the second amendment as the founders’ biggest blunder. As we head into 2022, my position has flipped — I now believe history may well come to regard it as the most far-sighted thing the founders did, not in spite of its vagueness, but because of it. It’s like a mysterious passage from a sacred text that forces living people to interpret it in a modern context. The founders believed the people needed to be able to defend their free state — with deadly force — whether that refers to a geographical state, or a state of being, or both.

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Most of those stocking up on guns and ammo belong to a culture, and like every other culture, it has its beliefs, suppositions and fears. That culture believes that tyranny may descend on us, even here in the freedom-loving United States of America, and that privately held guns are the key to fending it off.


I’m not a member of this culture, but I believe they may well be right about this.


In a country where politicians are increasingly prone to withdraw or stand-down the police to curry favour with confused constituents, it is easy to see how things can quickly escalate as they did in Kenosha, Wisconsin the night Kyle Rittenhouse shot three men in self-defence at a riot. To be clear, I do not believe Rittenhouse, then 17-years-old, should have been there with his AR-15.

But I also don’t believe the streets of American cities should ever be ceded to violent ideological bullies — a now familiar pattern that set the stage for Rittenhouse’s actions
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To understand why private guns may be decisive in a fight against tyranny, let’s take a moment to revisit what is assuredly the most inscrutable section of the United States Constitution, the Second Amendment: “A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”


It’s almost like a deliberate non-sequitur. In fact, after decades of pondering the question, I’m now fairly convinced that that is exactly what the founders gave us: an intentionally vague pronouncement designed to force the question into the future, to ensure it would be repeatedly reevaluated to keep up with changing weaponry and circumstances. Near as I can tell, it’s a place holder for a principle they could not tailor in advance.

They clearly didn’t want to give the legislature or the courts complete latitude. They tied our hands; our representatives are not allowed to disarm the public, even if a majority desires it. And the founders gave us a strong hint about why — something about the need to protect a “free state” from, you know… stuff. But they didn’t tell us how much firepower citizens should be allowed to have. And thank goodness they didn’t, because muzzle-loaded weapons are no better a model of modern weapons than a movable-type printing press is for an algorithmically personalised infinite scroll.

When was guns ever used to defend your freedom? Be specific.
 
When was guns ever used to defend your freedom? Be specific.


Every day cops walk around with guns......every day the U.S. military keeps Russia, China, Iran and other morons from attacking Americans.....every day, normal Americans with guns stop rapes, robberies, murders, beatings and stabbings....
 
Or cars, or knives, or bathtubs

and limit them to the bottom floor of any building


Or plastic bags and rubber bands, medicines and they shouldn't be allowed by train tracks...
 

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