Americans Strongly Dislike PC Culture

[Windparadox]

Because it describes them accurately. It's people who blame not the rich people who are screwing them, but people of color who are worse off than they are. Anger makes you irrational. Anger is a good way to deflect from the real problems. And the GOP has pulled this bit of misdirection since 1968, when Tricky Dick employed the Southern Strategy. Play on your racial, sexual and religious fears to get you to vote against your own economic interests.

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"Methinks the man doth protest too much." (paraphrased)

 

[Correll]

There is no general consensus as to why tump won. Thousands of different theories exist. LMGTFY The reasons vary wildly. However, among the common denominators is race and the angry white male.

"Race"? "Angry White Males"?

I wonder what we could be angry about? I mean, just because we vote for a guy with great policies on Trade and Immigration, and we get called all kinds of vile names for it.

It's the flipside of the equally-vapid argument from the left wrong that the only reason we opposed Obama's policies was that he's black and we're racists. Apparently, we on the right are only allowed to support or oppose policies based on the race of the person putting them forth, rather than on the merits of those policies themselves.

I've gotten libs to admit that I am a partisan republican and an Ideologue, who opposed Bill and would have opposed Hillary, just like I opposed Obama.


But still they considered my opposition to Obama to be racist.


They are bat shit crazy.

 

[Correll]

Because it describes them accurately. It's people who blame not the rich people who are screwing them, but people of color who are worse off than they are. Anger makes you irrational. Anger is a good way to deflect from the real problems. And the GOP has pulled this bit of misdirection since 1968, when Tricky Dick employed the Southern Strategy. Play on your racial, sexual and religious fears to get you to vote against your own economic interests.

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"Methinks the man doth protest too much." (paraphrased)

When you are attacked with false and vile smears, constantly, no, we have not protested too much. We have not protested enough.

Were you trying to be insulting with you used that term? Or is it something you do by reflex?

 

[Windparadox]

When you are attacked with false and vile smears, constantly, no, we have not protested too much. We have not protested enough.Were you trying to be insulting with you used that term? Or is it something you do by reflex?

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So, you are trying to play the victim. Humorous in a sad way however. I quoted and sourced a legitimate definition of "angry white male" and it triggered you. Not only that, you are now emotionally upset. Calm down, this is just a discussion.

I did not vote vote for Obama in 2012 and consider him a lying, war mongering, corporate tool. However, unlike many (but not all) males who feel the same, I do not align myself with a party or groups whose ulterior motives are contrary to my beliefs. I blew off the democrats in 2010 because they do not align with nor respect my beliefs.

You, on the other hand, belong to a party that has become a virtual magnate for racists, misogynists and xenophobics. While you cast yourself as something different, you still align with that same group but remain silent when members of your group spout their hateful rhetoric. You sound like a phony, charlatan..... a fraud.

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[Correll]

When you are attacked with false and vile smears, constantly, no, we have not protested too much. We have not protested enough.Were you trying to be insulting with you used that term? Or is it something you do by reflex?

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So, you are trying to play the victim. Humorous in a sad way however. I quoted and sourced a legitimate definition of "angry white male" and it triggered you. Not only that, you are now emotionally upset. Calm down, this is just a discussion.

I did not vote vote for Obama in 2012 and consider him a lying, war mongering, corporate tool. However, unlike many (but not all) males who feel the same, I do not align myself with a party or groups whose ulterior motives are contrary to my beliefs. I blew off the democrats in 2010 because they do not align with nor respect my beliefs.

You, on the other hand, belong to a party that has become a virtual magnate for racists, misogynists and xenophobics. While you cast yourself as something different, you still align with that same group but remain silent when members of your group spout their hateful rhetoric. You sound like a phony, charlatan..... a fraud.

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I done being insulted by people who expect me to smile and give them civility that they don't give me.

I am a republican, as are most of my friends. NONE of them or I, are racists nor misogynists nor xenophobes.


Would you like me to now insult you?

 

[Windparadox]

I done being insulted by people who expect me to smile and give them civility that they don't give me.I am a republican, as are most of my friends. NONE of them or I, are racists nor misogynists nor xenophobes.Would you like me to now insult you?

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You seriously FEEL insulted by words in an online political discussion forum?

 

[Redfish]

here is what you said
"All of this is encouraged by the establishment who very much want to keep Americans divided and fighting each other rather than paying attention to the real enemy: Corporatism. WHich has now wholly corrupted the federal government and the media."

feel free to correct it if you misspoke, otherwise own it.

Ok....so where in that do you find that I am saying all corporations are inherently evil?
Are you unfamiliar with the term Corporatism?
Let me help...

Cor·po·rat·ism
ˈkôrp(ə)rəˌtizəm/
noun
noun: corporatism

1. the control of a state or organization by large interest groups.

I fully understand the definition of corporatism. You implied that the government was corrupt because of corporate control. I think it is corrupt because to the greed of the lifetime politicians who are milking the corporations and the taxpayers. What we need is term limits, age limits, and income limits for all elected officials. Corporatism is the result, not the cause.

I agree with all of your measures, only I believe it is a mutual corruption...better word would be collusion between the two.

corporations exist for one reason and one reason only, to make money for their stock holders. There is nothing evil or corrupt about that. Whats evil and corrupt is when government "employees" trade influence for money. Do you ever wonder how so many congresspersons are multi millionaires on a salary of less than 200K per year?

And there is where we will part.
It is "evil" how corporations screw over 1,000's of people to satisfy single digit profit % increases for a few dozen people.
It is also "evil" to knowingly reduce the quality and or safety of a product while increasing prices to again maximize profits for an extraordinary small number of shareholders.
It is "evil" to layoff 1000's of dedicated employees who surrounded their lives around a company, only to lose their jobs so the corporation can move operations to take advantage of what is essentially slave labor so, again, a few dozen shareholders can make more money.
You may not think that is evil...I absolutely do.

I agree with you that the things you listed are wrong (evil, I don't know). They are also rare in US corporations, in fact, due to Trump's tax reductions American corporations are hiring, giving bonuses, and bringing operations back into the USA.

the things you listed happened mostly due to the anti business policies of the Obama administration, policies that forced corporations to reduce employees, move out of the country, or simply cease existence.

but your partisan bias is noted and acknowledged, as is your economic ignorance.

 

[Redfish]

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"Angry white male is a pejorative term for white males holding what is viewed as a typically conservative to reactionary viewpoint in the context of U.S. politics, typically characterized by "opposition to liberal anti-discriminatory policies" and beliefs. In particular, angry white males stereotypically oppose affirmative action policies and feminism". - Source​

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Like it or not, the term "angry white male" is now a part of our political lexicon, used to describe certain people.
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there are a lot of angry white males, there are also angry white females, angry black males, angry black females, angry Asian and Hispanic males and females. why are they angry? because they are fed up with left wing bullshit, denigrating our country, disrespecting our flag, opening our borders, trying to force abortion and multi gender down our throats, criminals like the Clintons walking free, corrupt officials in the FBI, DOJ, and CIA, idiotic socialists trying to destroy our constitution. Yes, we are angry and fed up and will vote you leftists out of power at every polling place in this great country next month.

 

[Windparadox]

I agree with you that the things you listed are wrong (evil, I don't know). They are also rare in US corporations, in fact, due to Trump's tax reductions American corporations are hiring, giving bonuses, and bringing operations back into the USA.the things you listed happened mostly due to the anti business policies of the Obama administration, policies that forced corporations to reduce employees, move out of the country, or simply cease existence.but your partisan bias is noted and acknowledged, as is your economic ignorance.

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[Redfish]

I agree with you that the things you listed are wrong (evil, I don't know). They are also rare in US corporations, in fact, due to Trump's tax reductions American corporations are hiring, giving bonuses, and bringing operations back into the USA.the things you listed happened mostly due to the anti business policies of the Obama administration, policies that forced corporations to reduce employees, move out of the country, or simply cease existence.but your partisan bias is noted and acknowledged, as is your economic ignorance.

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not changing the subject, just pointing out the hypocrisy and disingenuousness of the left. The subject remains as in the OP, that PC is destroying the first amendment and open dialog in this country. those changes are necessary if the dem/left is to succeed in turning the USA into a copy of failed European socialism, or something more akin to Venezuela.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I agree with you that the things you listed are wrong (evil, I don't know). They are also rare in US corporations, in fact, due to Trump's tax reductions American corporations are hiring, giving bonuses, and bringing operations back into the USA.the things you listed happened mostly due to the anti business policies of the Obama administration, policies that forced corporations to reduce employees, move out of the country, or simply cease existence.but your partisan bias is noted and acknowledged, as is your economic ignorance.

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Redfish can be a decent poster, but at times he trolls. He has "superiority complex"... also known as a know it all.
"Companies moved production to other countries because of Obama's policies" -- he actually said that.
Not like they have been doing this for over 30 years.... Obama had a lot of power in grade school apparently

 

[Silhouette]

not changing the subject, just pointing out the hypocrisy and disingenuousness of the left. The subject remains as in the OP, that PC is destroying the first amendment and open dialog in this country. those changes are necessary if the dem/left is to succeed in turning the USA into a copy of failed European socialism, or something more akin to Venezuela.

... Or more akin to the Rocky Horror Picture Show.....

 

[Mac1958]

More and more Americans have had enough of how phony and absurd and cowardly PC is.

Just like those who push it.

Good.
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[ColonelAngus]

PC was always bullshit, and now it’s dying.

I think the transphobic pearl clutching was the last straw for PC culture.

 

[Windparadox]

Redfish can be a decent poster, but at times he trolls. He has "superiority complex"... also known as a know it all. "Companies moved production to other countries because of Obama's policies" -- he actually said that. Not like they have been doing this for over 30 years.... Obama had a lot of power in grade school apparently

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I'll take your word for it and I'm also no fan of Obama's, I just don't use him as a scapegoat.

 

[Redfish]

I agree with you that the things you listed are wrong (evil, I don't know). They are also rare in US corporations, in fact, due to Trump's tax reductions American corporations are hiring, giving bonuses, and bringing operations back into the USA.the things you listed happened mostly due to the anti business policies of the Obama administration, policies that forced corporations to reduce employees, move out of the country, or simply cease existence.but your partisan bias is noted and acknowledged, as is your economic ignorance.

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Redfish can be a decent poster, but at times he trolls. He has "superiority complex"... also known as a know it all.
"Companies moved production to other countries because of Obama's policies" -- he actually said that.
Not like they have been doing this for over 30 years.... Obama had a lot of power in grade school apparently

they have been doing it for years, that's true. However, during the Obama years there was a lot more of it because of his anti business and anti USA policies. Thanks for the left handed compliment

 

[Redfish]

Redfish can be a decent poster, but at times he trolls. He has "superiority complex"... also known as a know it all. "Companies moved production to other countries because of Obama's policies" -- he actually said that. Not like they have been doing this for over 30 years.... Obama had a lot of power in grade school apparently

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I'll take your word for it and I'm also no fan of Obama's, I just don't use him as a scapegoat.

pointing out the difference in policies is not scapegoating, it is simply stating facts.

 

[Silhouette]

PC was always bullshit, and now it’s dying.

I think the transphobic pearl clutching was the last straw for PC culture.

Absolutely. They didn't see an end to the definition of "acceptable queer". The rest of us did. Hence election 2016.

 

[ColonelAngus]

PC was always bullshit, and now it’s dying.

I think the transphobic pearl clutching was the last straw for PC culture.

Absolutely. They didn't see an end to the definition of "acceptable queer". The rest of us did. Hence election 2016.

They tried to sell us on dudes going into the ladies room.

That was it.

Do whatever you want in your own bedrooom, but we don’t need adult males lawfully in the ladies room.

They blew it

 

[JoeB131]

It's the flipside of the equally-vapid argument from the left wrong that the only reason we opposed Obama's policies was that he's black and we're racists. Apparently, we on the right are only allowed to support or oppose policies based on the race of the person putting them forth, rather than on the merits of those policies themselves.

again, guy belongs to a cult that calls dark skin a curse from God, and so did his 2012 opponent.

In 2008, the Evangelical nuts were all opposed to Romney because he belonged to your fucked up cult. Then the BLACK GUY got elected, and Romney could have worshiped Dread C'Thulhu (which would actually be only slightly less silly than Mormonism) and the Evangelicals were all cool with the Mormon Cult all of a sudden.

Speaking of Romney. Hey, remember when he suggested a system of subsidies and mandates to cover everyone? He called it RomneyCare and everyone on the right was kind of cool with it. Then THE BLACK GUY did it, and suddenly it became totally evil.

Yes, the main reason why you guys hated Obama so much was racism. Embrace it.