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Americans and Brits start telling and showing some truth about events in SE Ukraine and real official Kiev’s face.

Today Western Media has released more news from Ukraine with the point of view, which certainly differs to the one Western audience is used to hear for the whole last year.

1. Sky News, Britain: As the fighting in eastern Ukraine intensifies, humanitarian conditions in the region are deteriorating.
The Ukrainian government has cut off pensions and other social payments to those living in rebel-controlled areas like Donetsk.
Some of the families in Donetsk have been living in underground shelters since July, too frightened to let their children play outside or go to school.
"They started to shell us from the Ukrainian side," Luba, one of the mothers, said.
Ukraine Daily Struggle On Conflict s Front Line (be sure to watch both videos attached)

2. National Interest, USA: From the very start of the Ukraine crisis, Washington’s neoconservative lobby has sought to downplay the less appealing aspects of the government that came to power in Kiev in February.
But examples of the new authoritarianism gripping Kiev have become tougher to miss in recent months, so much so that there are signs that perhaps even the Washington establishment is begin to feel some discomfiture at the actions of its new Ukrainian clients.
Also this article tells how comfortable Ukrainian nationalists (basically Nazis followers) are feeling in Ukraine now. And just think: in the country, where Nazis feel comfortable, how comfortable should normal people (who are not Nazis) feel?
Ukraine Exposed Kiev s Authoritarianism The National Interest

3. The man who claims to be, and sounds like, an American appeared on a three minute video released on YouTube by a media outlet associated with the Vostok Battalion, one of the main separatist groups fighting against Ukrainian troops.

“I arrived here to help, help New Russia, Novorossiya, become an independent state,” he said in response to a question by someone behind the camera. Novorossiya is the tsar-era name for the region favored by the separatists.

Hunter, who did not provide his last name in the video, said he joined the Vostok Battalion in the city of Donetsk “about a month” ago. It appears that he does not yet speak Russian, as the questions were translated for him and he responded in English.

He urged other Westerners to join him.

“People with U.S. military experience would be very valuable here,” he said.

Asked for his views on the conflict, Hunter admitted his knowledge of the situation is “limited,” but blamed the Ukrainian government for ignoring the will of the people.

“It seems to be a very simple, straightforward situation and the Kiev junta does not necessarily, I believe, reflect, they don’t, they don’t consider the popular opinion of the people of Donbass,” he said, referring the common name of the region.

He suggested, as a solution, that Ukrainian authorities cede the territory in the east.

“It’d be better for everybody if they’d just come to a peaceful resolution. Give a reasonable amount of territory to the new state of Novorussia and, you know, make a peaceful, peaceful arrangement,” he said.

There had been at least one other American fighting in Ukraine, but on the other side of the conflict.

Mark Paslawsky, a Ukrainian-American U.S. Army veteran from New Jersey, was fighting for a pro-Ukrainian militia under the non de guerre “Franko.” He was killed in battle in late August.


American Fighting With Ukraine Rebels Urges Others to Join Him - ABC News
 
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Americans and Brits start telling and showing some truth about events in SE Ukraine and real official Kiev’s face.

Today Western Media has released more news from Ukraine with the point of view, which certainly differs to the one Western audience is used to hear for the whole last year.

1. Sky News, Britain: As the fighting in eastern Ukraine intensifies, humanitarian conditions in the region are deteriorating.
The Ukrainian government has cut off pensions and other social payments to those living in rebel-controlled areas like Donetsk.
Some of the families in Donetsk have been living in underground shelters since July, too frightened to let their children play outside or go to school.
"They started to shell us from the Ukrainian side," Luba, one of the mothers, said.
Ukraine Daily Struggle On Conflict s Front Line (be sure to watch both videos attached)

2. National Interest, USA: From the very start of the Ukraine crisis, Washington’s neoconservative lobby has sought to downplay the less appealing aspects of the government that came to power in Kiev in February.
But examples of the new authoritarianism gripping Kiev have become tougher to miss in recent months, so much so that there are signs that perhaps even the Washington establishment is begin to feel some discomfiture at the actions of its new Ukrainian clients.
Also this article tells how comfortable Ukrainian nationalists (basically Nazis followers) are feeling in Ukraine now.
Ukraine Exposed Kiev s Authoritarianism The National Interest

3. The man who claims to be, and sounds like, an American appeared on a three minute video released on YouTube by a media outlet associated with the Vostok Battalion, one of the main separatist groups fighting against Ukrainian troops.

“I arrived here to help, help New Russia, Novorossiya, become an independent state,” he said in response to a question by someone behind the camera. Novorossiya is the tsar-era name for the region favored by the separatists.

Hunter, who did not provide his last name in the video, said he joined the Vostok Battalion in the city of Donetsk “about a month” ago. It appears that he does not yet speak Russian, as the questions were translated for him and he responded in English.

He urged other Westerners to join him.

“People with U.S. military experience would be very valuable here,” he said.

Asked for his views on the conflict, Hunter admitted his knowledge of the situation is “limited,” but blamed the Ukrainian government for ignoring the will of the people.

“It seems to be a very simple, straightforward situation and the Kiev junta does not necessarily, I believe, reflect, they don’t, they don’t consider the popular opinion of the people of Donbass,” he said, referring the common name of the region.

He suggested, as a solution, that Ukrainian authorities cede the territory in the east.

“It’d be better for everybody if they’d just come to a peaceful resolution. Give a reasonable amount of territory to the new state of Novorussia and, you know, make a peaceful, peaceful arrangement,” he said.

There had been at least one other American fighting in Ukraine, but on the other side of the conflict.

Mark Paslawsky, a Ukrainian-American U.S. Army veteran from New Jersey, was fighting for a pro-Ukrainian militia under the non de guerre “Franko.” He was killed in battle in late August.


American Fighting With Ukraine Rebels Urges Others to Join Him - ABC News

Let us not forget we send MRE's and God knows what to the usurper Ukraine government, while Americans are starving.
 

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Americans and Brits start telling and showing some truth about events in SE Ukraine and real official Kiev’s face.

Today Western Media has released more news from Ukraine with the point of view, which certainly differs to the one Western audience is used to hear for the whole last year.

1. Sky News, Britain: As the fighting in eastern Ukraine intensifies, humanitarian conditions in the region are deteriorating.
The Ukrainian government has cut off pensions and other social payments to those living in rebel-controlled areas like Donetsk.
Some of the families in Donetsk have been living in underground shelters since July, too frightened to let their children play outside or go to school.
"They started to shell us from the Ukrainian side," Luba, one of the mothers, said.
Ukraine Daily Struggle On Conflict s Front Line (be sure to watch both videos attached)

2. National Interest, USA: From the very start of the Ukraine crisis, Washington’s neoconservative lobby has sought to downplay the less appealing aspects of the government that came to power in Kiev in February.
But examples of the new authoritarianism gripping Kiev have become tougher to miss in recent months, so much so that there are signs that perhaps even the Washington establishment is begin to feel some discomfiture at the actions of its new Ukrainian clients.
Also this article tells how comfortable Ukrainian nationalists (basically Nazis followers) are feeling in Ukraine now.
Ukraine Exposed Kiev s Authoritarianism The National Interest

3. The man who claims to be, and sounds like, an American appeared on a three minute video released on YouTube by a media outlet associated with the Vostok Battalion, one of the main separatist groups fighting against Ukrainian troops.

“I arrived here to help, help New Russia, Novorossiya, become an independent state,” he said in response to a question by someone behind the camera. Novorossiya is the tsar-era name for the region favored by the separatists.

Hunter, who did not provide his last name in the video, said he joined the Vostok Battalion in the city of Donetsk “about a month” ago. It appears that he does not yet speak Russian, as the questions were translated for him and he responded in English.

He urged other Westerners to join him.

“People with U.S. military experience would be very valuable here,” he said.

Asked for his views on the conflict, Hunter admitted his knowledge of the situation is “limited,” but blamed the Ukrainian government for ignoring the will of the people.

“It seems to be a very simple, straightforward situation and the Kiev junta does not necessarily, I believe, reflect, they don’t, they don’t consider the popular opinion of the people of Donbass,” he said, referring the common name of the region.

He suggested, as a solution, that Ukrainian authorities cede the territory in the east.

“It’d be better for everybody if they’d just come to a peaceful resolution. Give a reasonable amount of territory to the new state of Novorussia and, you know, make a peaceful, peaceful arrangement,” he said.

There had been at least one other American fighting in Ukraine, but on the other side of the conflict.

Mark Paslawsky, a Ukrainian-American U.S. Army veteran from New Jersey, was fighting for a pro-Ukrainian militia under the non de guerre “Franko.” He was killed in battle in late August.


American Fighting With Ukraine Rebels Urges Others to Join Him - ABC News

Let us not forget we send MRE's and God knows what to the usurper Ukraine government, while Americans are starving.
They ain't no good without Tabasco sauce...
 

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Americans and Brits start telling and showing some truth about events in SE Ukraine and real official Kiev’s face.

Today Western Media has released more news from Ukraine with the point of view, which certainly differs to the one Western audience is used to hear for the whole last year.

1. Sky News, Britain: As the fighting in eastern Ukraine intensifies, humanitarian conditions in the region are deteriorating.
The Ukrainian government has cut off pensions and other social payments to those living in rebel-controlled areas like Donetsk.
Some of the families in Donetsk have been living in underground shelters since July, too frightened to let their children play outside or go to school.
"They started to shell us from the Ukrainian side," Luba, one of the mothers, said.
Ukraine Daily Struggle On Conflict s Front Line (be sure to watch both videos attached)

2. National Interest, USA: From the very start of the Ukraine crisis, Washington’s neoconservative lobby has sought to downplay the less appealing aspects of the government that came to power in Kiev in February.
But examples of the new authoritarianism gripping Kiev have become tougher to miss in recent months, so much so that there are signs that perhaps even the Washington establishment is begin to feel some discomfiture at the actions of its new Ukrainian clients.
Also this article tells how comfortable Ukrainian nationalists (basically Nazis followers) are feeling in Ukraine now.
Ukraine Exposed Kiev s Authoritarianism The National Interest

3. The man who claims to be, and sounds like, an American appeared on a three minute video released on YouTube by a media outlet associated with the Vostok Battalion, one of the main separatist groups fighting against Ukrainian troops.

“I arrived here to help, help New Russia, Novorossiya, become an independent state,” he said in response to a question by someone behind the camera. Novorossiya is the tsar-era name for the region favored by the separatists.

Hunter, who did not provide his last name in the video, said he joined the Vostok Battalion in the city of Donetsk “about a month” ago. It appears that he does not yet speak Russian, as the questions were translated for him and he responded in English.

He urged other Westerners to join him.

“People with U.S. military experience would be very valuable here,” he said.

Asked for his views on the conflict, Hunter admitted his knowledge of the situation is “limited,” but blamed the Ukrainian government for ignoring the will of the people.

“It seems to be a very simple, straightforward situation and the Kiev junta does not necessarily, I believe, reflect, they don’t, they don’t consider the popular opinion of the people of Donbass,” he said, referring the common name of the region.

He suggested, as a solution, that Ukrainian authorities cede the territory in the east.

“It’d be better for everybody if they’d just come to a peaceful resolution. Give a reasonable amount of territory to the new state of Novorussia and, you know, make a peaceful, peaceful arrangement,” he said.

There had been at least one other American fighting in Ukraine, but on the other side of the conflict.

Mark Paslawsky, a Ukrainian-American U.S. Army veteran from New Jersey, was fighting for a pro-Ukrainian militia under the non de guerre “Franko.” He was killed in battle in late August.


American Fighting With Ukraine Rebels Urges Others to Join Him - ABC News

Let us not forget we send MRE's and God knows what to the usurper Ukraine government, while Americans are starving.
They ain't no good without Tabasco sauce...
I bet they beat the fuck out of cleaning a kitchen!!!!!!!!
 

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Americans and Brits start telling and showing some truth about events in SE Ukraine and real official Kiev’s face.

Today Western Media has released more news from Ukraine with the point of view, which certainly differs to the one Western audience is used to hear for the whole last year.

1. Sky News, Britain: As the fighting in eastern Ukraine intensifies, humanitarian conditions in the region are deteriorating.
The Ukrainian government has cut off pensions and other social payments to those living in rebel-controlled areas like Donetsk.
Some of the families in Donetsk have been living in underground shelters since July, too frightened to let their children play outside or go to school.
"They started to shell us from the Ukrainian side," Luba, one of the mothers, said.
Ukraine Daily Struggle On Conflict s Front Line (be sure to watch both videos attached)

2. National Interest, USA: From the very start of the Ukraine crisis, Washington’s neoconservative lobby has sought to downplay the less appealing aspects of the government that came to power in Kiev in February.
But examples of the new authoritarianism gripping Kiev have become tougher to miss in recent months, so much so that there are signs that perhaps even the Washington establishment is begin to feel some discomfiture at the actions of its new Ukrainian clients.
Also this article tells how comfortable Ukrainian nationalists (basically Nazis followers) are feeling in Ukraine now.
Ukraine Exposed Kiev s Authoritarianism The National Interest

3. The man who claims to be, and sounds like, an American appeared on a three minute video released on YouTube by a media outlet associated with the Vostok Battalion, one of the main separatist groups fighting against Ukrainian troops.

“I arrived here to help, help New Russia, Novorossiya, become an independent state,” he said in response to a question by someone behind the camera. Novorossiya is the tsar-era name for the region favored by the separatists.

Hunter, who did not provide his last name in the video, said he joined the Vostok Battalion in the city of Donetsk “about a month” ago. It appears that he does not yet speak Russian, as the questions were translated for him and he responded in English.

He urged other Westerners to join him.

“People with U.S. military experience would be very valuable here,” he said.

Asked for his views on the conflict, Hunter admitted his knowledge of the situation is “limited,” but blamed the Ukrainian government for ignoring the will of the people.

“It seems to be a very simple, straightforward situation and the Kiev junta does not necessarily, I believe, reflect, they don’t, they don’t consider the popular opinion of the people of Donbass,” he said, referring the common name of the region.

He suggested, as a solution, that Ukrainian authorities cede the territory in the east.

“It’d be better for everybody if they’d just come to a peaceful resolution. Give a reasonable amount of territory to the new state of Novorussia and, you know, make a peaceful, peaceful arrangement,” he said.

There had been at least one other American fighting in Ukraine, but on the other side of the conflict.

Mark Paslawsky, a Ukrainian-American U.S. Army veteran from New Jersey, was fighting for a pro-Ukrainian militia under the non de guerre “Franko.” He was killed in battle in late August.


American Fighting With Ukraine Rebels Urges Others to Join Him - ABC News

Let us not forget we send MRE's and God knows what to the usurper Ukraine government, while Americans are starving.
They ain't no good without Tabasco sauce...
I bet they beat the fuck out of cleaning a kitchen!!!!!!!!
Not if you have a maid..
 

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Americans and Brits start telling and showing some truth about events in SE Ukraine and real official Kiev’s face.

Today Western Media has released more news from Ukraine with the point of view, which certainly differs to the one Western audience is used to hear for the whole last year.

1. Sky News, Britain: As the fighting in eastern Ukraine intensifies, humanitarian conditions in the region are deteriorating.
The Ukrainian government has cut off pensions and other social payments to those living in rebel-controlled areas like Donetsk.
Some of the families in Donetsk have been living in underground shelters since July, too frightened to let their children play outside or go to school.
"They started to shell us from the Ukrainian side," Luba, one of the mothers, said.
Ukraine Daily Struggle On Conflict s Front Line (be sure to watch both videos attached)

2. National Interest, USA: From the very start of the Ukraine crisis, Washington’s neoconservative lobby has sought to downplay the less appealing aspects of the government that came to power in Kiev in February.
But examples of the new authoritarianism gripping Kiev have become tougher to miss in recent months, so much so that there are signs that perhaps even the Washington establishment is begin to feel some discomfiture at the actions of its new Ukrainian clients.
Also this article tells how comfortable Ukrainian nationalists (basically Nazis followers) are feeling in Ukraine now.
Ukraine Exposed Kiev s Authoritarianism The National Interest

3. The man who claims to be, and sounds like, an American appeared on a three minute video released on YouTube by a media outlet associated with the Vostok Battalion, one of the main separatist groups fighting against Ukrainian troops.

“I arrived here to help, help New Russia, Novorossiya, become an independent state,” he said in response to a question by someone behind the camera. Novorossiya is the tsar-era name for the region favored by the separatists.

Hunter, who did not provide his last name in the video, said he joined the Vostok Battalion in the city of Donetsk “about a month” ago. It appears that he does not yet speak Russian, as the questions were translated for him and he responded in English.

He urged other Westerners to join him.

“People with U.S. military experience would be very valuable here,” he said.

Asked for his views on the conflict, Hunter admitted his knowledge of the situation is “limited,” but blamed the Ukrainian government for ignoring the will of the people.

“It seems to be a very simple, straightforward situation and the Kiev junta does not necessarily, I believe, reflect, they don’t, they don’t consider the popular opinion of the people of Donbass,” he said, referring the common name of the region.

He suggested, as a solution, that Ukrainian authorities cede the territory in the east.

“It’d be better for everybody if they’d just come to a peaceful resolution. Give a reasonable amount of territory to the new state of Novorussia and, you know, make a peaceful, peaceful arrangement,” he said.

There had been at least one other American fighting in Ukraine, but on the other side of the conflict.

Mark Paslawsky, a Ukrainian-American U.S. Army veteran from New Jersey, was fighting for a pro-Ukrainian militia under the non de guerre “Franko.” He was killed in battle in late August.


American Fighting With Ukraine Rebels Urges Others to Join Him - ABC News

So there is nothing new here that we did not know about before.
We know that the rebels want a new state.
 
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Let us not forget we send MRE's and God knows what to the usurper Ukraine government, while Americans are starving.

In May, 2014 Donbass (rebellious SE Ukraine) has had a referendum and with 85% voted for separation from Ukraine. (Remember, when the USSR split into 15 different countries, the officials in USA and Europe were pretty happy and did not even think to do anything to restore the USSR). And when 7 millions of people in SE Ukraine voted for separation last May and after that official Kiev started bombing their own people in Donbass, whose side official democRATS in Washington supported? You would think calling themselves democrats, they would support the choice of 7 millions in Dobass rather than a few clowns in Kiev, who came to the power after the unconstitutional coup last February? Instead they started sending their high ranked officials one after another (Biden, Nuland, Brennan, Hodges, etc.) to advise official Kiev how to better kill its own people in Donbass. At the same time they started unbelievable propaganda in their Media, spreading false information that Putin has anything to do with this conflict (without any trustworthy evidence!).

Obama, HANDS OFF UKRAINE!
People, if somebody shows you Russian tanks and tells: it’s an evidence for Russian aggression in Ukraine, try to find this picture on the Internet, it may have been taken actually in Russia and several years ago . That’s a common trick now: to show a real picture with the false explanation.
PEOPLE, STAY ALERT!

twain-jpg.36401
 
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Let us not forget we send MRE's and God knows what to the usurper Ukraine government, while Americans are starving.

In May, 2014 Donbass (rebellious SE Ukraine) has had a referendum and with 85% voted for separation from Ukraine. (Remember, when the USSR split into 15 different countries, the officials in USA and Europe were pretty happy and did not even think to do anything to restore the USSR). And when 7 millions of people in SE Ukraine voted for separation last May and after that official Kiev started bombing their own people in Donbass, whose side official democRATS in Washington supported? You would think calling themselves democrats, they would support the choice of 7 millions in Dobass rather than a few clowns in Kiev, who came to the power after the unconstitutional coup last February? Instead they started sending their high ranked officials one after another (Biden, Nuland, Brennan, Hodges, etc.) to advise official Kiev how to better kill its own people in Donbass. At the same time they started unbelievable propaganda in their Media, spreading false information that Putin has anything to do with this conflict (without any trustworthy evidence!).

Obama, HANDS OFF UKRAINE!
People, if somebody shows you Russian tanks and tells: it’s an evidence for Russian aggression in Ukraine, try to find this picture on the Internet, it may have been taken actually in Russia and several years ago . That’s a common trick now: to show a real picture with the false explanation.
PEOPLE, STAY ALERT!

twain-jpg.36401
How many T-84 Oplot do both sides have? Nice lightweight good tank with a gas turbine.
And why should the rebels not have Russian tanks? They do but that does not prove that Putin sent the stuff. Hopefully, he sends a lot of tanks so that the rebels can apply the will of the people.
 

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Oops, the Oplot has no gas turbine...
 

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