American intelligence community contradicts Trump's justification for mass deportations

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Even if debunked, the admin has the right to deport illegals as long as they get due process.

Hence the ‘gangs’ lie.

If afforded due process, the evidence would demonstrate that immigrants subject to lawless removal are not members of ‘gangs,’ have no criminal records, and are lawfully in the country or lawfully seeking asylum.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Hence the ‘gangs’ lie.

If afforded due process, the evidence would demonstrate that immigrants subject to lawless removal are not members of ‘gangs,’ have no criminal records, and are lawfully in the country or lawfully seeking asylum.

You can lawfully seek asylum and still be deported.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

How about the hundreds of thousands that Obama and Biden deported, Betty? You weren't whining "due process" then. Makes reasonable people understand your whining now is simply your TDS and disingenuous partisan bullshit

... because they had due process, pancho.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Last time I heard an "former" cia agent shooting his mouth off like this, they were telling us how the laptop was russian disinformation.


So, he can go fuck himself.

Russian interference is factual.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Russian interference is factual.

It changed literally dozens of votes.

 

[berg80]

You can lawfully seek asylum and still be deported.

The National Intelligence Council, drawing from the acumen of the United States' 18 intelligence agencies, determined in a secret assessment early this month that the Venezuelan government is not directing an invasion of the United States by the prison gang Tren de Aragua.

Trump invoked the Alien Enemies Act in mid-March, proclaiming without evidence that Tren de Aragua is perpetrating an "invasion" of the United states "at the direction" of the regime of Venezuelan President Nicol''s Maduro. The intelligence product found that the gang does not operate oat the direction of Venezuela's leader.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/04/17/us-intelligence-tren-de-aragua-deportations-trump/

The NIC's assessment......if the trump regime followed the rule of law.........should have put a stop to any deportations using the AEA as justification.

 

[berg80]

It changed literally dozens of votes.

We will never know how many votes were influenced, not only by Russia's "sweeping and systematic" misinformation campaign, but also by the Wikileaks documents dump made possible by the GRU giving the material it hacked to Assange.

The equally important takeaway is trump encouraged the aid of a foreign adversary in his campaign against Clinton when he should have condemned Russia's actions. A despicable act of treachery and a foreshadowing of what was to come.

 

[berg80]

You let millions of people in you waved them on in and gave them money


Now everyone deserves due process to be thrown the f*** out

I don't think so stupid it would take years upon years upon years
This is your mess you invited all those people in

Intelligence Assessment Said to Contradict Trump on Venezuelan Gang​

President Trump’s assertion that a gang is committing crimes in the United States at the direction of Venezuela’s government was critical to his invocation of a wartime law last week to summarily deport people whom officials suspected of belonging to that group.

But American intelligence agencies circulated findings last month that stand starkly at odds with Mr. Trump’s claims, according to officials familiar with the matter. The document, dated Feb. 26, summarized the shared judgment of the nation’s spy agencies that the gang was not controlled by the Venezuelan government.

The disclosure calls into question the credibility of Mr. Trump’s basis for invoking a rarely used wartime law, the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, to transfer a group of Venezuelans to a high-security prison in El Salvador last weekend, with no due process.

The intelligence community assessment concluded that the gang, Tren de Aragua, was not directed by Venezuela’s government or committing crimes in the United States on its orders, according to the officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.

Intelligence Assessment Said to Contradict Trump on Venezuelan Gang

To invoke wartime deportation powers, President Trump asserted that Venezuela’s government controls a gang. U.S. intelligence analysts think that is not true.

www.nytimes.com

trump knew his pretense for the deportations was shit but he went ahead with them anyway. A lawless act and abuse of power worthy of impeachment.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We will never know how many votes were influenced, not only by Russia's "sweeping and systematic" misinformation campaign, but also by the Wikileaks documents dump made possible by the GRU giving the material it hacked to Assange.

The equally important takeaway is trump encouraged the aid of a foreign adversary in his campaign against Clinton when he should have condemned Russia's actions. A despicable act of treachery and a foreshadowing of what was to come.

We will never know how many votes were influenced

As many as 100!

but also by the Wikileaks documents dump made possible by the GRU giving the material it hacked to Assange.

You mean the documents exposing the corruption of the DNC and Hillary?
That was awful!
Hillary's corruption must never be exposed.
Hillary's corruption must always remain hidden.

trump encouraged the aid of a foreign adversary in his campaign against Clinton

When he joked about Russia finding Hillary's "lost" emails?
After her illegal, unsecured server was already in government custody?

 

[luiza]

DEFLECTION ALERT!

Said Troll Bot Bugger 86
The one who quotes the opinions of likely Chinese insert Brennan and generally comments as though he hates his own country .

Or , are you a Chinese Troll Bot , Bugger 86?
Any relation to Ou Flung Dung ?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Sit down, Todd. It happened.

 

[Rawley]

... because they had due process, pancho.

Yup. Due process - no hearing, no judge, adios pancho. Hundreds of thousands and you didn't say a peep.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Yup. Due process - no hearing, no judge, adios pancho. Hundreds of thousands and you didn't say a peep.

You are babbling. They get due process. Guess what, you do, too.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Sit down, Todd. It happened.

What happened?

 

[Contumacious]

Yup. Due process - no hearing, no judge, adios pancho. Hundreds of thousands and you didn't say a peep.

Due process of law is a fundamental principle in legal systems, ensuring fair treatment and adherence to established rules and procedures when a government acts against a person's life, liberty, or property. It protects individuals from arbitrary or unfair government action, guaranteeing fairness and justice.


Hence WE THE PEOPLE have a right to due process of law

Don't recall the Biden Junta seeking a referendum to determine if WE THE PEOPLE APPROVE

(a) opening the the Borders
(b) flying illegals in
(b) whether illegals should have been given a stipend and given free cell phones
(d) allowing illegals to vote
(e) allowing illegals to replace Republicans and Conservatives as lawful US Citizens

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Even you, Contumacious, get due process. Sit down.

 

[kyzr]

The National Intelligence Council, drawing from the acumen of the United States' 18 intelligence agencies, determined in a secret assessment early this month that the Venezuelan government is not directing an invasion of the United States by the prison gang Tren de Aragua.
Trump invoked the Alien Enemies Act in mid-March, proclaiming without evidence that Tren de Aragua is perpetrating an "invasion" of the United states "at the direction" of the regime of Venezuelan President Nicol''s Maduro. The intelligence product found that the gang does not operate oat the direction of Venezuela's leader.
The NIC's assessment......if the trump regime followed the rule of law.........should have put a stop to any deportations using the AEA as justification.

The OP is about a liars club.
1. Voters want criminal gangs deported
2. Voters want all illegals deported
3. The OP must have forgotten how Brennan and Clapper lied to congress about the domestic surveillance project.

The CIA Hacked Senate Computers, Lied About It, and No One Is Getting Fired

The Senate does want "an apology," however.

www.vice.com

James Clapper denies lying to Congress about NSA surveillance program

James Clapper, the former director of national intelligence, denied Tuesday that he lied to Congress when he falsely testified during the Obama administration that the government does "not wittingly" collect the telephone records of millions of Americans.

apnews.com

A Reply to Ronald Radosh’s Smear | National Review

The record of John Brennan’s lying is not predicated on any Trump tweet or conspiracy theory but simply on the facts.

www.nationalreview.com

Edward Snowden: Leaks that exposed US spy programme

BBC News retraces the leaks by ex-CIA contractor Edward Snowden, which led to the revelation of America's extensive surveillance programme.

www.bbc.com

 

[kyzr]

Due process of law is a fundamental principle in legal systems, ensuring fair treatment and adherence to established rules and procedures when a government acts against a person's life, liberty, or property. It protects individuals from arbitrary or unfair government action, guaranteeing fairness and justice.
Hence WE THE PEOPLE have a right to due process of law

Don't recall the Biden Junta seeking a referendum to determine if WE THE PEOPLE APPROVE
(a) opening the the Borders
(b) flying illegals in
(b) whether illegals should have been given a stipend and given free cell phones
(d) allowing illegals to vote
(e) allowing illegals to replace Republicans and Conservatives as lawful US Citizens

Don't forget free food and free housing and Medicaid, etc.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Don't forget free food and free housing and Medicaid, etc.

Due Process even for you, kyzr.

 

[Billiejeens]

Said Troll Bot Bugger 86
The one who quotes the opinions of likely Chinese insert Brennan and generally comments as though he hates his own country .

Or , are you a Chinese Troll Bot , Bugger 86?
Any relation to Ou Flung Dung ?

Brennan should definitely be in prison or worse for treason