American intelligence community contradicts Trump's justification for mass deportations

[kyzr]

So, you are okay with masked men, many without any identification, and without warrants taking people off the streets? You are okay with that?

They came in illegally, they can go out illegally.

 

[JimH52]

I am OK with Federal ICE agents (including other deputized LEOs) doing just that with respect to Illegal Aliens.

I am ESPECIALLY agreeable to doing just that with respect to Illegal Alien gang members and other Alien-criminals.

So are very, very, very large numbers of our fellow countrymen who also see this as necessary to ejecting the 20,000,000...

Again... "The Perfect is the enemy of the Good"... the Federal government is presently enforcing existing US Immigration Law...

An occasional mistake will be made from time-to-time... unavoidable when dealing with a whopping-huge 20,000,000 volume...

I can live with that... so can those very large numbers of our fellow countrymen who also approve under the circumstances...

It's a MUCH better scenario than the catastrophic Immigration Non-Policies of the Democrats that let-in the 20,000,000...

Your words clearly show you are okay with the termination of "due process." I never felt that Biden took enough actions on immigration. He didn't and that is why we are now seeing a lawless showing by federal agents who, even as the USSC, says these people, even illegal aliens need to be given some form of due process.

Of course, your gaud, trump immediately says, "all of a sudden" judges want due process. No, they are not saying every immigrant needs to have a trial. But they are saying that before you grab someone off the street and send them to a prison in a foreign country, you need to have good reason and you need to provide them a voice to defend themselves. No ID, no warrant, and a masked face speak to authoritarianism. That is where the US, under trump, is heading.

If you feel that anything less than that is fine, then you would have been fine with Hitler shipping train loads of people out of Germany before he finally decided to bake them.

 

[JimH52]

I am OK with Federal ICE agents (including other deputized LEOs) doing just that with respect to Illegal Aliens.

I am ESPECIALLY agreeable to doing just that with respect to Illegal Alien gang members and other Alien-criminals.

So are very, very, very large numbers of our fellow countrymen who also see this as necessary to ejecting the 20,000,000...

Again... "The Perfect is the enemy of the Good"... the Federal government is presently enforcing existing US Immigration Law...

An occasional mistake will be made from time-to-time... unavoidable when dealing with a whopping-huge 20,000,000 volume...

I can live with that... so can those very large numbers of our fellow countrymen who also approve under the circumstances...

It's a MUCH better scenario than the catastrophic Immigration Non-Policies of the Democrats that let-in the 20,000,000...

You are okay with a convicted felon (34) ordering the kidnapping and deportation of a person committing a misdemeanor? Gotcha...Change your profile. You ARE NOT a centrist. You are MAGA.

 

[berg80]

They came in illegally, they can go out illegally.

Wow, what a snappy phrase as a justification for the POTUS violating the Constitution.

 

[Kondor3]

Your words clearly show you are okay with the termination of "due process."

Incorrect.

Like you, I am insistent upon "due process" for American citizens.

Unlike you, I am all-in-favor of provided "expedited" removal of Illegal Aliens.

I never felt that Biden took enough actions on immigration. He didn't and that is why we are now seeing a lawless showing by federal agents who, even as the USSC, says these people, even illegal aliens need to be given some form of due process.

Fine. Let's give them a very, very, very expedited version of "due process" utilizing 24x7x365 Immigration Auxiliary Courts.

Of course, your gaud,

Not mine.

I'm an independent who voted for Harris rather than Trump on November 5, 2024.

But just as I can lean Left on some issues, I lean Right on others, including dealing with Illegal Aliens.

trump immediately says, "all of a sudden" judges want due process. No, they are not saying every immigrant needs to have a trial. But they are saying that before you grab someone off the street and send them to a prison in a foreign country, you need to have good reason and you need to provide them a voice to defend themselves. No ID, no warrant, and a masked face speak to authoritarianism. That is where the US, under trump, is heading.

Yes, I fully understand why you are concerned, but I do not perceive the future threat that you imply, to apply to US citizens.

If you feel that anything less than that is fine, then you would have been fine with Hitler shipping train loads of people out of Germany before he finally decided to bake them.

Rubbish.

And, by the way, let's keep our feet on the ground and not give way to hyper-Liberal Emotionalism and playing the Nazi Card, eh?

I've seen some of your commentary on this site and you're better than using that low-hanging and spoiled, ineffective fruit.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

No one has trouble with expedited process is due process.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Your words clearly show you are okay with the termination of "due process." I never felt that Biden took enough actions on immigration. He didn't and that is why we are now seeing a lawless showing by federal agents who, even as the USSC, says these people, even illegal aliens need to be given some form of due process.

Of course, your gaud, trump immediately says, "all of a sudden" judges want due process. No, they are not saying every immigrant needs to have a trial. But they are saying that before you grab someone off the street and send them to a prison in a foreign country, you need to have good reason and you need to provide them a voice to defend themselves. No ID, no warrant, and a masked face speak to authoritarianism. That is where the US, under trump, is heading.

If you feel that anything less than that is fine, then you would have been fine with Hitler shipping train loads of people out of Germany before he finally decided to bake them.

our words clearly show you are okay with the termination of "due process."

Illegal aliens deserve little "due process".

I never felt that Biden took enough actions on immigration.

His actions were to not only allow illegal immigrant to flood across the border, but to actively seek out illegal aliens and even fly them in. He was, literally, the worst.

He didn't and that is why we are now seeing a lawless showing by federal agents who,

He caused a huge crisis by encouraging lawless behavior by millions of illegals and now we can't be so dainty when we're booting them.

Very sad. I may even shed a tear.

But they are saying that before you grab someone off the street and send them to a prison in a foreign country, you need to have good reason

They're here illegally is reason enough. If they fear being sent to a prison in a foreign country, perhaps they should voluntarily leave now?

If you feel that anything less than that is fine, then you would have been fine with Hitler

Could you be a bigger twat?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You are okay with a convicted felon (34) ordering the kidnapping and deportation of a person committing a misdemeanor? Gotcha...Change your profile. You ARE NOT a centrist. You are MAGA.

Someone with bookkeeping misdemeanors can't deport illegal aliens? DURR

 

[Kondor3]

You are okay with a convicted felon (34) ordering the kidnapping and deportation of a person committing a misdemeanor?

The criminal record of Donald Trump is absolutely and completely immaterial to the matter at-hand.

I am all in favor of Federal ICE officers arresting, detaining, processing and deporting Illegal Aliens under any circumstances.

Gotcha...Change your profile. You ARE NOT a centrist. You are MAGA.

No, I am not MAGA... I just happen to align with their perspective on this particular issue.

The trouble with Liberals is that they're totally binary with respect to dogma... you're either ALL "in" or ALL "out".

No wonder you routinely "eat your own" when they stray even ever-so-slightly from the Approved Party Line...

Juvenile, and ultimately not sustainable over time.

I am, indeed, a Centrist, on the macro level.

Your (failed) attempt to re-label me in that regard is foolhardy, wildly inaccurate, and immaterial to the subject at hand...

But thank you for playing... "Johnny, what do we have by way of a parting gift for this contestant?"...

 

[kyzr]

Wow, what a snappy phrase as a justification for the POTUS violating the Constitution.

The USSC said that district judges can only take cases from their district, and their rulings only apply in their district.
Trump did not violate anything.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The criminal record of Donald Trump is absolutely and completely immaterial to the matter at-hand.

I am all in favor of Federal ICE officers arresting, detaining, processing and deporting Illegal Aliens under any circumstances.

No, I am not MAGA... I just happen to align with their perspective on this particular issue.

The trouble with Liberals is that they're totally binary with respect to dogma... you're either ALL "in" or ALL "out".

No wonder you routinely "eat your own" when they stray even ever-so-slightly from the Approved Party Line...

Juvenile, and ultimately not sustainable over time.

I am, indeed, a Centrist, on the macro level.

Your (failed) attempt to re-label me in that regard is foolhardy, wildly inaccurate, and immaterial to the subject at hand...

But thank you for playing... "Johnny, what do we have by way of a parting gift for this contestant?"...

Yes, you are MAGA.

Deport with due process all you want.

 

[Kondor3]

Yes, you are MAGA.

Nonsense.

I am aligned with their positions regarding...

• Illegal Immigration
• Border security
• Trade Rebalancing
• Elimination of DEI-Woke-ism in Public Life
• Support for Israel
• LGBTQ
• Law and Order
• Re-tooling the Military

I am NOT aligned with their positions regarding...

• Social Security and Medicare
• Medicaid and SNAP and SSI
• Veterans Affairs
• Taxation
• Support for Ukraine
• NATO
• The UN
• Foreign Policy
• Education
• Research
• Climate
• Agriculture
• Emergency Services
• January 6, 2021
• Trump

...as my fairly-long historical posting content on this system will attest.

My opposition to your position in this particular matter does not serve to re-classify me, regardless of your (failed)) attempt here.

Much akin to a "cafeteria Catholic"... I am a "Cafeteria Centrist"... I pick-and-choose which way to lean on an issue-by-issue basis.

Deport with due process all you want.

With or without... the Illegals are going... even if Feds have to resort to expedited 24x7x365 Lip-Service Virtual Immigration Hearings.

Continuously-operating production-line -caliber "due process" that complies with the LETTER of The Law...

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

That makes you MAGA.

 

[Kondor3]

That makes you MAGA.

Dang... that was funny... inaccurate, but danged funny...

 

[MagicMike]

Troll Bot Bugger 86 looking like he supports the Chinese as he quotes suspect China sympathisers including Brennan , a widely regarded Traitor .

What's wrong with you Troll Bot ?

Are you trying to speak English here?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Dang... that was funny... inaccurate, but danged funny...

Deny it all you want. Matters not to me.

 

[MarathonMike]

John Hudson, Washington Post National Security Reporter and John Brennan, Former CIA Director join Nicolle Wallace on Deadline White House with new reporting detailing that the America’s top intelligence community leaders and experts have debunked many of the Trump administration's claims which the White House has used as the basis for their mass deportations which include sending people they have deemed as terrorists into a foreign prison in El Salvador.

American intelligence community contradicts, Trump's justification for mass deportations

John Hudson, Washington Post National Security Reporter and John Brennan, Former CIA Director join Nicolle Wallace on Deadline White House with new reporting detailing that the America’s top intelligence community leaders and experts have debunked many of the Trump administration's claims which...

www.msnbc.com

There is no evidence the Maduro government is directing the actions of Tren de Aragua. That assessment blows up the regime's dishonest rationale. trump has created a fake emergency to justify what he wants to do.

MSNBC. LOL John Brennan. LOL "Intelligence Community" LOL

 

[JimH52]

Wow, what a snappy phrase as a justification for the POTUS violating the Constitution.

Right! That just makes whatever the Felon (34) wants to do okay.

 

[kyzr]

Right! That just makes whatever the Felon (34) wants to do okay.

The same way democrats were okay with Biden breaking the law and violating the Constitution.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The same way democrats were okay with Biden breaking the law and violating the Constitution.

If that were so, but it is Trump et al that are doing that.