American Conservatives are Embarrassing

[CrusaderFrank]

Yes it was. Bush spent the money, but we couldn't have an accurate accounting of what we ended up owing until all that money was accounted for.

Frank would be wise to "man up" and admit what every school child already knows that the war was put "off budget" so that Shrub's budget didn't look quite so disastrous

Your search for, "on the books, unpaid for wars, off budget" yielded 0 results

FY 2006 Supplemental Funding : The Defense Department base budget also does not include “one time only” costs attributable to the War on Terror, which are submitted as Supplemental Funding

Ah! So that's why Obama's debt is patriotic!

You've mastered Double Think

That would two more thinks than you've mastered, apparently

Why do you even bother to rationalize your stupidity? Your only answer is: Bush's debt bad, Obama good

 

[Rustic]

 

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[Rustic]

...and our real debt is most likely north of 225+ trillion

 

[IcebergSlim]

Bush's debt, unpatriotic

Obama's debt, patriotic.

Any question

The first graph shows the difference between budget projections and budget reality. In 2001, President George W. Bush inherited a surplus, with projections by the Congressional Budget Office for ever-increasing surpluses, assuming continuation of the good economy and President Bill Clinton’s policies. But every year starting in 2002, the budget fell into deficit. In January 2009, just before President Obama took office, the budget office projected a $1.2 trillion deficit for 2009 and deficits in subsequent years, based on continuing Mr. Bush’s policies and the effects of recession.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/opinion/sunday/24sun4.html?_r=0



“President Bush said today that there was a benefit to the government’s fast-dwindling surplus, declaring that it will create ”a fiscal straitjacket for Congress.” He said that was ”incredibly positive news” because it would halt the growth of the federal government.
In a 45-minute news conference in a community hall next to an RV park here, Mr. Bush avoided specific answers to several questions about how he would find the money for his next big initiatives, from missile defense, to overhauling the military, to reforming Medicaid, without dipping into Social Security surpluses that both parties have declared off limits.

PRESIDENT ASSERTS SHRUNKEN SURPLUS MAY CURB CONGRESS

Therefore Obama's massive, unprecedented debt in all human history is patriotic

Did you vote for the guy who TRIPLED the debt in the course of his terms, Frank?

 

[IcebergSlim]

Any debt is unacceptable...

So how many votes did you cast for the guy who turned the budget from deficit to surplus at the end of the last century?

Roughly....

 

[Rustic]

Bush's debt, unpatriotic

Obama's debt, patriotic.

Any question

The first graph shows the difference between budget projections and budget reality. In 2001, President George W. Bush inherited a surplus, with projections by the Congressional Budget Office for ever-increasing surpluses, assuming continuation of the good economy and President Bill Clinton’s policies. But every year starting in 2002, the budget fell into deficit. In January 2009, just before President Obama took office, the budget office projected a $1.2 trillion deficit for 2009 and deficits in subsequent years, based on continuing Mr. Bush’s policies and the effects of recession.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/opinion/sunday/24sun4.html?_r=0



“President Bush said today that there was a benefit to the government’s fast-dwindling surplus, declaring that it will create ”a fiscal straitjacket for Congress.” He said that was ”incredibly positive news” because it would halt the growth of the federal government.
In a 45-minute news conference in a community hall next to an RV park here, Mr. Bush avoided specific answers to several questions about how he would find the money for his next big initiatives, from missile defense, to overhauling the military, to reforming Medicaid, without dipping into Social Security surpluses that both parties have declared off limits.

PRESIDENT ASSERTS SHRUNKEN SURPLUS MAY CURB CONGRESS

Therefore Obama's massive, unprecedented debt in all human history is patriotic

Did you vote for the guy who TRIPLED the debt in the course of his terms, Frank?

All career politicians from both sides of the isle have fucked us and/or we let the them. The last one(Obama) has done the worst....

 

[IcebergSlim]

Why is there no mention of any other presidents in that graph, Rustic?

 

[IcebergSlim]

Bush's debt, unpatriotic

Obama's debt, patriotic.

Any question

The first graph shows the difference between budget projections and budget reality. In 2001, President George W. Bush inherited a surplus, with projections by the Congressional Budget Office for ever-increasing surpluses, assuming continuation of the good economy and President Bill Clinton’s policies. But every year starting in 2002, the budget fell into deficit. In January 2009, just before President Obama took office, the budget office projected a $1.2 trillion deficit for 2009 and deficits in subsequent years, based on continuing Mr. Bush’s policies and the effects of recession.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/opinion/sunday/24sun4.html?_r=0



“President Bush said today that there was a benefit to the government’s fast-dwindling surplus, declaring that it will create ”a fiscal straitjacket for Congress.” He said that was ”incredibly positive news” because it would halt the growth of the federal government.
In a 45-minute news conference in a community hall next to an RV park here, Mr. Bush avoided specific answers to several questions about how he would find the money for his next big initiatives, from missile defense, to overhauling the military, to reforming Medicaid, without dipping into Social Security surpluses that both parties have declared off limits.

PRESIDENT ASSERTS SHRUNKEN SURPLUS MAY CURB CONGRESS

Therefore Obama's massive, unprecedented debt in all human history is patriotic

Did you vote for the guy who TRIPLED the debt in the course of his terms, Frank?

All career politicians from both sides of the isle have fucked us and/or we let the them. The last one(Obama) has done the worst....

Rustic,


I notice that you don't answer questions....

You cast two votes for the guy who tripled the debt, didn't you.......

and now you have the nerve to bitch about the consequences...

 

[Rustic]

Any debt is unacceptable...

So how many votes did you cast for the guy who turned the budget from deficit to surplus at the end of the last century?

Roughly....

There was still debt, your using progressive accounting. There was no surplus because there was still unpayable debt. Robbing Peter to pay Paul does not work in the real world.
It might in algores climate lock box, but not in reality.

There can be no surplus or budget if there is outstanding debt...
You should have learned that in middle school...

 

[IcebergSlim]

Frank would be wise to "man up" and admit what every school child already knows that the war was put "off budget" so that Shrub's budget didn't look quite so disastrous

Your search for, "on the books, unpaid for wars, off budget" yielded 0 results

FY 2006 Supplemental Funding : The Defense Department base budget also does not include “one time only” costs attributable to the War on Terror, which are submitted as Supplemental Funding

Ah! So that's why Obama's debt is patriotic!

You've mastered Double Think

That would two more thinks than you've mastered, apparently

Why do you even bother to rationalize your stupidity? Your only answer is: Bush's debt bad, Obama good

I don't have to rationalize anything......I've NEVER voted for a POTUS who bequeathed larger deficits to his predecessor than those he inherited......EVER....

You have done nothing but.....is that not right?

 

[Dhara]

"Forgotten by the fevered crowd was the supposedly bedrock conservative principle that people are responsible for their own actions, and that it's time to stop blaming society."

For most on the right it's about rejecting personal responsibility and blaming Obama.

Fevered crowd indeed.

 

[Rustic]

 

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[IcebergSlim]

Any debt is unacceptable...

So how many votes did you cast for the guy who turned the budget from deficit to surplus at the end of the last century?

Roughly....

There was still debt, your using progressive accounting. There was no surplus because there was still unpayable debt. Robbing Peter to pay Paul does not work in the real world.
It might in algores climate lock box, but not in reality.

There can be no surplus or budget if there is outstanding debt...
You should have learned that in middle school...

Do you see where the blue line rises above the horizontal axis?

 

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