Am i the only one who thinks it's GOOD the government shuts down?

[rightwinger]

Conservatives struggle with the concept of what "nonessential" means
To them, it means the job is not essential and can be eliminated

In practice it means jobs that do not directly lead to a loss of life, safety or security breaches, loss of tremendous money

An FBI agent, doctor in a VA clinic, security guard will be classified as essential
A Park Ranger will be classified as non-essential

But Conservatives still scream about the loss of the Park Ranger

Conservatives struggle with the concept of what "nonessential" means
To them, it means the job is not essential and can be eliminated

In practice it means jobs that do not directly lead to a loss of life, safety or security breaches, loss of tremendous money

An FBI agent, doctor in a VA clinic, security guard will be classified as essential
A Park Ranger will be classified as non-essential

But Conservatives still scream about the loss of the Park Ranger

Quite frankly the management of all our national parks should be outsourced then they would never have to shut down

And if a government employee can be let go without loss of life or compromising safety, while avoiding security breaches and tremendous monetary losses then that employee is truly nonessential and should be let go

Most government employee functions take place over periods of weeks, months and years

I worked on projects that had a cycle of five or six years. Your job was to manage that project and meet key milestones. Those milestones were generally on a monthly or quarterly basis. Being sent home during a shutdown did not end a project, but key meetings, tests and documentation needed to meet the milestone were deferred or cancelled

Funny how people in the private sector can do all that with far fewer employees and at far less cost.

Sorry but there is no way 100% of government employees perform essential duties as you define them

We could easily fire 20% of them and never know the difference

You fail to understand the difference between the public sector and the private sector

The private sector represents profit for their shareholders. The public sector represents the interests of the American people.

Those government employees are there to ensure that contracts get written, work gets performed, product is delivered and contractual terms are met. They also represent the legal interests of the government and the people.

You can arbitrarily fire 20% but you will make yourself 20% more vulnerable

It is in the interest of the tax payer to have a government that runs as efficiently as possible.

The work can be done with fewer people there is no doubt about that in anyone's mind except current and former government employees like yourself

The federal workforce has remained constant at around 2 million workers for the last 50 years. In that time, our population has more than doubled

 

[Skull Pilot]

Quite frankly the management of all our national parks should be outsourced then they would never have to shut down

And if a government employee can be let go without loss of life or compromising safety, while avoiding security breaches and tremendous monetary losses then that employee is truly nonessential and should be let go

Most government employee functions take place over periods of weeks, months and years

I worked on projects that had a cycle of five or six years. Your job was to manage that project and meet key milestones. Those milestones were generally on a monthly or quarterly basis. Being sent home during a shutdown did not end a project, but key meetings, tests and documentation needed to meet the milestone were deferred or cancelled

Funny how people in the private sector can do all that with far fewer employees and at far less cost.

Sorry but there is no way 100% of government employees perform essential duties as you define them

We could easily fire 20% of them and never know the difference

You fail to understand the difference between the public sector and the private sector

The private sector represents profit for their shareholders. The public sector represents the interests of the American people.

Those government employees are there to ensure that contracts get written, work gets performed, product is delivered and contractual terms are met. They also represent the legal interests of the government and the people.

You can arbitrarily fire 20% but you will make yourself 20% more vulnerable

It is in the interest of the tax payer to have a government that runs as efficiently as possible.

The work can be done with fewer people there is no doubt about that in anyone's mind except current and former government employees like yourself

The federal workforce has remained constant at around 2 million workers for the last 50 years. In that time, our population has more than doubled

So what?

We can still do the same with less. The federal government is the largest employer in the country and you can't see anything wrong with that?

 

[rightwinger]

Most government employee functions take place over periods of weeks, months and years

I worked on projects that had a cycle of five or six years. Your job was to manage that project and meet key milestones. Those milestones were generally on a monthly or quarterly basis. Being sent home during a shutdown did not end a project, but key meetings, tests and documentation needed to meet the milestone were deferred or cancelled

Funny how people in the private sector can do all that with far fewer employees and at far less cost.

Sorry but there is no way 100% of government employees perform essential duties as you define them

We could easily fire 20% of them and never know the difference

You fail to understand the difference between the public sector and the private sector

The private sector represents profit for their shareholders. The public sector represents the interests of the American people.

Those government employees are there to ensure that contracts get written, work gets performed, product is delivered and contractual terms are met. They also represent the legal interests of the government and the people.

You can arbitrarily fire 20% but you will make yourself 20% more vulnerable

It is in the interest of the tax payer to have a government that runs as efficiently as possible.

The work can be done with fewer people there is no doubt about that in anyone's mind except current and former government employees like yourself

The federal workforce has remained constant at around 2 million workers for the last 50 years. In that time, our population has more than doubled

So what?

We can still do the same with less. The federal government is the largest employer in the country and you can't see anything wrong with that?

So it looks pretty damned efficient doesn't it?

Twice as efficient as it was 50 years ago

 

[Skull Pilot]

Funny how people in the private sector can do all that with far fewer employees and at far less cost.

Sorry but there is no way 100% of government employees perform essential duties as you define them

We could easily fire 20% of them and never know the difference

You fail to understand the difference between the public sector and the private sector

The private sector represents profit for their shareholders. The public sector represents the interests of the American people.

Those government employees are there to ensure that contracts get written, work gets performed, product is delivered and contractual terms are met. They also represent the legal interests of the government and the people.

You can arbitrarily fire 20% but you will make yourself 20% more vulnerable

It is in the interest of the tax payer to have a government that runs as efficiently as possible.

The work can be done with fewer people there is no doubt about that in anyone's mind except current and former government employees like yourself

The federal workforce has remained constant at around 2 million workers for the last 50 years. In that time, our population has more than doubled

So what?

We can still do the same with less. The federal government is the largest employer in the country and you can't see anything wrong with that?

So it looks pretty damned efficient doesn't it?

Twice as efficient as it was 50 years ago

No not really.

With the advent of technology where every other business can now run with fewer people and still do more than the government it seems more inefficient than ever.