Allow me to make an audacious suggestion. Albeit one that's a bit tardy.

[ThisIsMe]

Trump's behaviors are like no one else's. Not even close. He can not be equated with anyone.

Believe what you want.

I agree trump has some self centered behavior but were talking about divisive rhetoric here. Both sides do this. Why do you all try to pretend this is not the case?

 

[Mac1958]

I agree trump has some self centered behavior but were talking about divisive rhetoric here. Both sides do this. Why do you all try to pretend this is not the case?

Another great example of why I've largely given up trying to engage with you people.

I didn't say it didn't exist on both sides. I agree fully. The difference is frequency. Plus, Trump is supposed to be the President, and he does it more than anyone else.

Please play with someone else now. I'm done.

 

[Mac-7]

Tell the people killed in El PaSo Walmart, and the Tree of Life Synagogue and the Charleston Church.

You are in denial

Yes there a crazy individuals on the right who flip out sometimes

But leftwing violence has that along with organized and well funded violence in the streets and on campuses across the country

Along with spontaneous violence by nominally respectable libs such as we saw during the burning and keying of Teslas

Much of that was by more or less average libs not merely the usual far left radicals

 

[otto105]

/----/ President Trump didn't murder anyone; one of yours did.
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A conservatively raised Mormon did.

 

[Hafar1014]

How's that? This was a lefty who shot kirk. How would that make bidens remarks prescient?

Biden was so impaired his remarks made no sense

 

[otto105]

You are in denial

Yes there a crazy individuals on the right who flip out sometimes

But leftwing violence has that along with organized and well funded violence in the streets and on campuses across the country

Along with spontaneous violence by nominally respectable libs such as we saw during the burning and keying of Teslas

Much of that was by more or less average libs not merely the usual far left radicals

The El Paso murderer went to the city to kill 23 brown people because he believed Shitler! and his followers that there was an invasion.

 

[Mac-7]

Not a movement. The acts of a tiny minority. But thanks for making my point about the error made by implying all Dem's align themselves with the actions of a very few people.

The attacks on Tesla were not from an organized lib minority wearing rings in their nose or pins in their eyelids

They were mostly spontaneously carried out by ordinary libs who never dreamed they would get caught

 

[otto105]

So how many of the 24 perpetrators of the 31 targeted political murders or attempted murders since 2018 were from the Left? Let’s count them.


Politics of the villains

In 2018, Cesar Altieri Sayoc was sentenced to 20 years prison for sending pipe bombs to nine prominent Democrats, including Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and Maxine Waters. Sayoc was a registered Republican.

In 2020, 13 men attempted to punish Michigan’s Democrat Governor Gretchen Whitmer for enforcing Covid lockdown measures. All were far right extremists.

Roy Den Hollander murdered human rights lawyer Marc Angelucci in July 2020. He then tried to kill district judge Esther Salas, but succeeded instead in murdering her son and seriously wounding her husband. Hollander was a far right Trump supporter.

Quintez Brown attempted to kill Democratic Mayor of Louisville, Kentucky, Craig Greenberg, in February 2022. Brown was motivated by Black nationalism, pan-Africanism and revolutionary socialism.

In October 2022 David DePape seriously injured Paul Pelosi with a hammer while seeking to kill House of Representatives Speaker, Nancy Pelosi. DePape is a far right Trump supporter.

In December 2022, Solomon Peña paid gunmen to attack the houses of Democrat state lawmakers in New Mexico. Peña is a registered Republican and a former candidate for state office.

Craig Robertson was shot and killed by FBI agents in August 2023 while being arrested for threats against President Joe Biden and others. Robertson was an army veteran with extreme right wing views.

Donald Trump himself was targeted at a July 2024 rally in Pennsylvania. The shooter Thomas Crooks killed one attendee and injured three others, including Trump, whose ear was cut by a flying fragment. Crooks was a registered Republican.


Another attempt on Trump’s life, thwarted before completion, was made by Trump voter Ryan Routh in September 2024. The trial is continuing.

In April 2025, Cody Balmer attempted to kill Pennsylvania’s Democratic Governor Josh Shapiro in an arson attack which caused extensive property damage but no injuries. Balmer was a Trump supporter at the time.

The Democrat Speaker of the Minnesota House of Representatives Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark Hortman were killed by avid Trump supporter and registered Republican Vance Boelter in June 2025.

Boelter then attempted to murder Minnesota Senator John Hoffman and succeeded in seriously injuring the senator and his wife.

Lastly, right wing influencer Charlie Kirk was shot last Wednesday by Tyler Robinson, a white student from a gun-loving Republican Mormon family. Robinson has no party links, but has reportedly embraced the extremism of right wing racist Nick Fuentes.

 

[Mac-7]

The El Paso murderer went to the city to kill 23 brown people because he believed Shitler! and his followers that there was an invasion.

He was as you say, a crazy individual and was widely condemned by conservstives

Compare that to the joyous response by rank and file liberals to Charlie Kirk’s murder

 

[ThisIsMe]

Another great example of why I've largely given up trying to engage with you people.

I didn't say it didn't exist on both sides. I agree fully. The difference is frequency. Plus, Trump is supposed to be the President, and he does it more than anyone else.

Please play with someone else now. I'm done.

frequency? Seriously? How much more frequent can you get than every day. Left wing media, politicians, and the president calling maga nazis, a threat to the country, extremists, racist, etc. Back when Biden was president, this was an every day occurrence. I dont care that you criticize Trump, but you all never seemed to care about the rhetoric when Biden was in office, if only became an issue when trump was elected again.

im just trying to get people to recognize that.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Biden was so impaired his remarks made no sense

His followers knew what he meant

 

[otto105]

He was as you say, a crazy individual and was widely condemned by conservstives

Compare that to the joyous response by rank and file liberals to Charlie Kirk’s murder

He wasn't widely condemned by the far -fight or even the majority of maga.

He was a young white man who believed the rhetoric of the right.


Was Paul Pelosi attacked by a gay lover or not?

 

[Mac-7]

So how many of the 24 perpetrators of the 31 targeted political murders or attempted murders since 2018 were from the Left? Let’s count them.


Politics of the villains

In 2018, Cesar Altieri Sayoc was sentenced to 20 years prison for sending pipe bombs to nine prominent Democrats, including Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and Maxine Waters. Sayoc was a registered Republican.

In 2020, 13 men attempted to punish Michigan’s Democrat Governor Gretchen Whitmer for enforcing Covid lockdown measures. All were far right extremists.

Roy Den Hollander murdered human rights lawyer Marc Angelucci in July 2020. He then tried to kill district judge Esther Salas, but succeeded instead in murdering her son and seriously wounding her husband. Hollander was a far right Trump supporter.

Quintez Brown attempted to kill Democratic Mayor of Louisville, Kentucky, Craig Greenberg, in February 2022. Brown was motivated by Black nationalism, pan-Africanism and revolutionary socialism.

In October 2022 David DePape seriously injured Paul Pelosi with a hammer while seeking to kill House of Representatives Speaker, Nancy Pelosi. DePape is a far right Trump supporter.

In December 2022, Solomon Peña paid gunmen to attack the houses of Democrat state lawmakers in New Mexico. Peña is a registered Republican and a former candidate for state office.

Craig Robertson was shot and killed by FBI agents in August 2023 while being arrested for threats against President Joe Biden and others. Robertson was an army veteran with extreme right wing views.

Donald Trump himself was targeted at a July 2024 rally in Pennsylvania. The shooter Thomas Crooks killed one attendee and injured three others, including Trump, whose ear was cut by a flying fragment. Crooks was a registered Republican.


Another attempt on Trump’s life, thwarted before completion, was made by Trump voter Ryan Routh in September 2024. The trial is continuing.

In April 2025, Cody Balmer attempted to kill Pennsylvania’s Democratic Governor Josh Shapiro in an arson attack which caused extensive property damage but no injuries. Balmer was a Trump supporter at the time.

The Democrat Speaker of the Minnesota House of Representatives Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark Hortman were killed by avid Trump supporter and registered Republican Vance Boelter in June 2025.

Boelter then attempted to murder Minnesota Senator John Hoffman and succeeded in seriously injuring the senator and his wife.

Lastly, right wing influencer Charlie Kirk was shot last Wednesday by Tyler Robinson, a white student from a gun-loving Republican Mormon family. Robinson has no party links, but has reportedly embraced the extremism of right wing racist Nick Fuentes.

Robinson is a homosexual living with a trans man

And there is a strong possibility that he has support from radical trans activists

 

[Mac-7]

He wasn't widely condemned by the far -fight or even the majority of maga.

He was a young white man who believed the rhetoric of the right.


Was Paul Pelosi attacked by a gay lover or not?

Was Paul Pelosi attacked by a gay lover or not?

I cant say for sure

But it certainly might have been

 

[Cellblock2429]

A conservatively raised Mormon did.

/----/ A conservatively raised Mormon who was radicalized by Antifa did. His conservative Mormon parent turned him in.
Fixed it for ya.

 

[berg80]

You are in denial

Yes there a crazy individuals on the right who flip out sometimes

But leftwing violence has that along with organized and well funded violence in the streets and on campuses across the country

Along with spontaneous violence by nominally respectable libs such as we saw during the burning and keying of Teslas

Much of that was by more or less average libs not merely the usual far left radicals

AI Overview

Recent official statements and assessments from the FBI and other U.S. government agencies confirm that violent far-right extremism, particularly white supremacy, poses the most persistent and lethal domestic terrorism threat to the country.

No doubt the FBI's factual assessment will change now that Ka$h is in charge to one based on ideology.

 

[otto105]

Robinson is a homosexual living with a trans man

And there is a strong possibility that he has support from radical trans activists

How does that post change the facts I presented.

 

[Mac-7]

Trump's behaviors are like no one else's. Not even close. He can not be equated with anyone.

Believe what you want.

Mac1958 has found an acorn

Since Reagan and before Trump all the presidents were losers who were bad for America

I would worry if lib fence jockys like mac1958 were praising trump

 

[otto105]

/----/ A conservatively raised Mormon who was radicalized by Antifa did. His conservative Mormon parent turned him in.
Fixed it for ya.

Hilarious

 

[berg80]

I agree trump has some self centered behavior but were talking about divisive rhetoric here. Both sides do this. Why do you all try to pretend this is not the case?

Simply put, it's a false equivalence. No major, national political figure from either party has ever acted the way trump does. By a factor of 10.