All we need is a Dim in the Oval Office

[Camp]

Not many people are thinking this far ahead, but consider: The Republicans will increase their majority in the Senate in November. It is near to being a statistical slam dunk. If they can just maintain a slight edge in the House, it will be a WHOLE NEW BALLGAME. And they very likely will maintain the House, because they don't have a pack of Conor Lamb's in the bullpen. All of the women and Muslims and "activists" who are now running for office are, politically, TO THE LEFT OF BERNIE SANDERS! They think HRC lost because she was TOO MODERATE! They didn't get the message of the Trump election. The actually think that the hundreds of rabid fans who come to their rallies are representative of a majority of the voters. They are kidding themselves.

So think about all the stuff that should have happened during Trump's first year, but didn't, because of a couple rogue ass-holes in the Senate. Repeal of O'care, meaningful immigration reform, a better tax package, a more rational budget deal. Quicker approval of judges. Three or four senators were able to prevent a shit-load of accomplishments, but they won't have that power come 2019.

Again, when the next Congress is sworn in, it will be a whole new ballgame.

I think what the goal here is to destroy the system.

Just look at the debt. Soon the interest on the national debt will exceed the GDP.

At that point, the system begins to fall apart. Then the government falls apart.

Then chaos, anarchy, and dictatorship as the Constitution officially goes bye, bye.

Yes, the powers that be know that the public does not want to go where they are taking them, which is why the public seems to vacillate between the two parties every election cycle. They keep looking for someone to represent them, but there are none to be had.

I noticed that Trump had planned on spending more than Hillary, which is part of why I think he was allowed to win. Trump just accelerated the clock is all.

American voters are generally centrist who favor pragmatism and objective common sense. Alternating political parties every few elections is a way to balance power and limit extremism towards one ideology or another.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

And the Electoral College elect the President, so keep that in your half brain when spewing about three million voters!

No argument there, moron......But your equally ignorant cohort stated that the PEOPLE (that is, the electorate and not an antiquated electoral college) picked Trump.....THAT IS FALSE....lol

He was elected by the people of the States he won in the Electoral College, so now you were taught something else moron!

Also if you hate the damn system then win an election that will give you the power to Amend the Constitution while also having the States support that Amendment, which will be never!

What is so funny Nat?

Did you realize that Trump is the President and won legally?

Did you realize that to change the Constitution you need the House, Senate, Oval Office and States to support it?

I know moonbats live in this reality that they thought the National Popular Vote elected the President, but your vote only counts usually toward your Electoral College Vote!

I know how dare the founding fathers set a system up where it would prevent a State like California from slanting the vote!

The system worked and your candidate lost because of her damn arrogance that you suffer from!

Now get busy and change that Constitution while lacking the power!

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Really? And why is that? What will change?

For all their sins, democrats have shown more of a moral rudder than republicans....and even ingrate, nitwits like you have benefited for democrat policies.


What democrats have done for the American worker

1) Democrats Fought for Social Security (F.D.R.)
2) Democrats Fought for Medicare (L.B.J.)
3) Democrats Fought for Medicaid (L.B.J.)
4) Democrats Fought for Welfare Benefits (F.D.R.)
5) Democrats Fought for Civil Rights (L.B.J.)
6) Democrats Fought for Unemployment Insurance (F.D.R.)
7) Democrats Fought for National Labor Relations Board (F.D.R.)
8) Democrats Fought for 8 Hour Work Day-5 Day Work Week- Work Place Breaks & Overtime Pay (F.D.R.)
9) Democrats Fought for Workers Compensation (Woodrow Wilson)
10) Democrats Fought for Americans with Disability Act (101st Democratic Congress - over G.H.W. Bush veto)
11) Democrats Fought for Holiday Pay(F.D.R.)
12) Democrats Fought for Medical Leave Act (Bill Clinton)
13) Democrats Fought for Prevention of Child Labor (F.D.R.)
14) Democrats Fought for Minimum Wage Act (F.D.R.)
15) Democrats Fought for Work Place Safety (OSHA) *** (Nixon)
16) Democrats Fought for Affirmative Action as it relates to Racial Discrimination (J.F.K)
17) Democrats Fought for Women's Rights (L.B.J)
18) Democrats Fought for Tax Fairness (Platform Issue)
19) Democrats Fought for Veterans Pay & Benefits (F.D.R.)
20) Democrats Fought for Consumer Protection / Consumer Bill of Rights (J.F.K.)
21) Democrats Fought for Gun Law's / Background Checks to prevent felons from getting Weapons (L.B.J) (B.Clinton)
22) Democrats Fought for Credit Card Holders Bill of Rights (Barack Obama)
23) Democrats Fought for Funding Our Schools (L.B.J.)
24) Democrats Fought for Grants for low income people to attend college (L.B.J.)
25) Democrats Fought for Environmental Regulations - Clean Water Act / Clean Air Act (Dems Override Nixon Veto)
26) Democrats Fought for Financial Regulations keeping Wall Street Wizards Accountable (Dodd/Frank - Obama)
27) Democrats Fought for Affordable Health Care for Everyone (Obama Care)
28) Democrats Fought for Hate Crime Legislation (Matthew Shepard) (Barack Obama)
29) Democrats Fought for Children's Health Legislation for 11 Million Children without Health Care (Barack Obama)
30) Democrats Fought for Voting Rights Act (L.B.J)
31) Democrats Fought for National Voter Registration (Bill Clinton)
32) Democrats Fought for Largest Deficit Cutting Plan in History (Bill Clinton)
33) Democrats Fought for Clayton Anti-Trust Act (Woodrow Wilson)
34) Democrats Fought for Securities & Exchange Act (Franklin D. Roosevelt)
35) Democrats Fought for National School Lunch Program (Harry Truman)

Republicans fought to end slavery while those like you fought to keep it!

Can you beat that?

Also look up Teddy Roosevelt record and he was ahead of your boys on the left!

Hell Ike and Nixon were ahead of some of your worthless left!

Nixon wanted National Healthcare and Democrats stopped the Nixon\Kennedy plan that was better than the Romney\Obama crap this Nation has!

 

[depotoo]

Oh, brother. You are in deep.

For anyone wanting to read a fairly comprehensive factual history of Republican vs Democratic fight for Black Americans it is here, going up until now, not just the 60’s.
History Of Civil Rights, Republicans And Democrats | African American Civil Rights Movement (1954–1968) | Reconstruction Era
Even though the link title says through ‘68 it goes until today, along with from the time of before Lincoln.

Really? And why is that? What will change?

For all their sins, democrats have shown more of a moral rudder than republicans....and even ingrate, nitwits like you have benefited for democrat policies.


What democrats have done for the American worker

1) Democrats Fought for Social Security (F.D.R.)
2) Democrats Fought for Medicare (L.B.J.)
3) Democrats Fought for Medicaid (L.B.J.)
4) Democrats Fought for Welfare Benefits (F.D.R.)
5) Democrats Fought for Civil Rights (L.B.J.)
6) Democrats Fought for Unemployment Insurance (F.D.R.)
7) Democrats Fought for National Labor Relations Board (F.D.R.)
8) Democrats Fought for 8 Hour Work Day-5 Day Work Week- Work Place Breaks & Overtime Pay (F.D.R.)
9) Democrats Fought for Workers Compensation (Woodrow Wilson)
10) Democrats Fought for Americans with Disability Act (101st Democratic Congress - over G.H.W. Bush veto)
11) Democrats Fought for Holiday Pay(F.D.R.)
12) Democrats Fought for Medical Leave Act (Bill Clinton)
13) Democrats Fought for Prevention of Child Labor (F.D.R.)
14) Democrats Fought for Minimum Wage Act (F.D.R.)
15) Democrats Fought for Work Place Safety (OSHA) *** (Nixon)
16) Democrats Fought for Affirmative Action as it relates to Racial Discrimination (J.F.K)
17) Democrats Fought for Women's Rights (L.B.J)
18) Democrats Fought for Tax Fairness (Platform Issue)
19) Democrats Fought for Veterans Pay & Benefits (F.D.R.)
20) Democrats Fought for Consumer Protection / Consumer Bill of Rights (J.F.K.)
21) Democrats Fought for Gun Law's / Background Checks to prevent felons from getting Weapons (L.B.J) (B.Clinton)
22) Democrats Fought for Credit Card Holders Bill of Rights (Barack Obama)
23) Democrats Fought for Funding Our Schools (L.B.J.)
24) Democrats Fought for Grants for low income people to attend college (L.B.J.)
25) Democrats Fought for Environmental Regulations - Clean Water Act / Clean Air Act (Dems Override Nixon Veto)
26) Democrats Fought for Financial Regulations keeping Wall Street Wizards Accountable (Dodd/Frank - Obama)
27) Democrats Fought for Affordable Health Care for Everyone (Obama Care)
28) Democrats Fought for Hate Crime Legislation (Matthew Shepard) (Barack Obama)
29) Democrats Fought for Children's Health Legislation for 11 Million Children without Health Care (Barack Obama)
30) Democrats Fought for Voting Rights Act (L.B.J)
31) Democrats Fought for National Voter Registration (Bill Clinton)
32) Democrats Fought for Largest Deficit Cutting Plan in History (Bill Clinton)
33) Democrats Fought for Clayton Anti-Trust Act (Woodrow Wilson)
34) Democrats Fought for Securities & Exchange Act (Franklin D. Roosevelt)
35) Democrats Fought for National School Lunch Program (Harry Truman)

 

[MrShangles]

What we need is for the Senate and the White House to always be controlled by different parties.

Which is which is pretty meaningless at this point in time.


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Really? And why is that? What will change?

My point here is that nothing ever changes except the window dressing.

We got a President trying to make changes, but liberals fight everything he does.


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[candycorn]

If you wish; Thomas Friedman wrote about “the golden straitjacket” in his landmark book, The Lexus and the Olive Tree. Give it a look/listen. It describes this phenomenon.

 

[Political Junky]

It couldn't be worse than what we have now. Just watch the repubs leaving.

 

[alang1216]

As I said, they are not done. They will continue to take our lives like they plan to with the Single payer system

Do you want a taste of the single payer system and government run health care? Look no further than the VA.

Did you hear about the VA scandal in Arizona? Veterans were put on secret death lists cuz they were too sick and expensive to treat. This is what they want for the entire country it seems.

News flash we already have death lists, they are just not compiled by the gov't. but by corporations that answer to stockholders and Wall Street. They are called health insurance companies. If I need a critical medical procedure that they don't cover and I can't afford, I'm a dead man. I think I'd prefer a gov't that answers to me than a faceless corporation that answers only to profits.

 

[depotoo]

The people in 30 states voted for Trump vs 20 for Hillary. Thus why there is the electoral college. One region, thru populous, can’t win, if other regions don’t agree.

And the Electoral College elect the President, so keep that in your half brain when spewing about three million voters!

No argument there, moron......But your equally ignorant cohort stated that the PEOPLE (that is, the electorate and not an antiquated electoral college) picked Trump.....THAT IS FALSE....lol

 

[Votto]

Do you want a taste of the single payer system and government run health care? Look no further than the VA.

NO, moron, LOOK, instead, at all those countries with single payer that have longevity, better health care and whose citizens pay 1/3 of what we waste on HC.

Well that depends on the country and what in particular you are pointing to.

For example, those in North Korea have all the free care they want, but the free stuff is laughable. In fact, North Koreans who defect are smaller and malnourished compared to South Koreans.

Also, in Europe you have higher mortality/morbidity rates in regards to cancer treatment because the process take longer and they are not as aggressive with costly treatments. In fact, there are a myriad of examples of people trying to get to the US for cancer treatment who can't obtain in elsewhere.

Trouble is, about 1 in 3 people now get cancer

 

[Thinker101]

And the Electoral College elect the President, so keep that in your half brain when spewing about three million voters!

No argument there, moron......But your equally ignorant cohort stated that the PEOPLE (that is, the electorate and not an antiquated electoral college) picked Trump.....THAT IS FALSE....lol

Get a clue dumbass...there are a lot of voters that don't live in your trailer park.

 

[Care4all]

Well to make along story short, SCOTUS had to rewrite the legislation so that it was a tax, to make it half way Constitutional. This ended up being the largest tax on the middle class in US history.

How? Only people who could afford but refused insurance were charged the mandate penalty tax??? the mandate penalty was ruled a tax, not anything else??

 

[Care4all]

I just want this unfit, authoritarian crooked mobster out of office...I don't care at this point if it is an R like Pence or a D that replaces him.

 

[del]

we've already got a dim in the white house

they don't come much dimmer than the cheeto

 

[nat4900]

Did you realize that Trump is the President and won legally?

Of course I do......THAT is not my argument......

My argument is that our current system has TWICE had a president who did NOT win the popular vote (and both have been REP.).........

My argument was on your fellow nitwit who stated that the people had spoken in electing Trump.....The reality is that Trump won the electoral college and NOT the majority of voters' will.

 

[nat4900]

Republicans fought to end slavery while those like you fought to keep it!

Bullshit and antiquated......The ONLY reason that southern whites went to the Democrat Party was because they hated Lincoln (a decent republican)........

Want to see how often southern/racist states vote for modern democrats????

 

[K9Buck]

For all the partisan shill dead heads that think that the US federal government will be "A" Ok once Trump is removed, this thread if for you.

I also realize it matters little who it is so long as they have a "D" by their name and spew venom at Trump.......except maybe Hillary. LMAO!

I also realize it matters what their policies will be, not that that will be hard to predict. They will need to follow the talking points of limiting gun ownership, free "something", unregulated and unlimited immigration, and a single payer system. Of coarse, championing tax funded genocide at the abortion mills is a must as well. These sorts of things the next empty suit or dress must champion cuz they are ingrained in the party platform and nothing can ever change that.

Having said that, will much really change other than the window dressing? I mean, Trump will fail at the border wall, he has fully funded Planned Parenthood, the spending is worse now than under Obama, and the GOP failed to replace Obamacare. Also, I look for more gun legislation under Trump of some sort, so really, nothing has been lost here for Dims other than the abuse of having to look at the orange Gerbil atop Trump's head everyday and being tortured by his tweets.

This is a post by someone who is NOT a partisan hack. It's refreshing to see.

 

[K9Buck]

Republicans fought to end slavery while those like you fought to keep it!

Bullshit and antiquated......The ONLY reason that southern whites went to the Democrat Party was because they hated Lincoln (a decent republican)........

Want to see how often southern/racist states vote for modern democrats????

The civil war more between Republicans and Democrats than it was the North and South.

 

[nat4900]

This is a post by someone who is NOT a partisan hack. It's refreshing to see.

sure.......just look at the thread's title and then state that the O/Poster is NOT a partisan hack...LOL

 

[K9Buck]

This is a post by someone who is NOT a partisan hack. It's refreshing to see.

sure.......just look at the thread's title and then state that the O/Poster is NOT a partisan hack...LOL

His OP was critical of both sides. Did you ever criticize anything done or said by Obama or Hillary?