Aliens: Are we sceptical of their existence or just too frightened to admit that they do?

[GLASNOST]

I don’t know what I think but there are several points in this report that just don’t “click”. Also, I find it difficult to trust someone who says “fuck” when he wants to say fuck but says “Oh, my gosh” when he wants to say oh my God:

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

The size of our own galaxy makes it statistically possible, but that size means that we may never know or if we do discover an alien civilization it will be through signals that have traveled decades if not centuries to get here. Add the rest of the Universe and it becomes worthless. By the time we receive any signals from other galaxies those civilizations are likely long gone.

The Fermi Paradox is an interesting answer to why we haven't seen or heard from real aliens yet. There are many versions of this theory some of them are terrifying. The Dark Forrest version is really scary.

“Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.”
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― Arthur C. Clarke

 

[BackAgain]

Absent a magnificent technological breakthrough along the lines of what Star Trek labeled a “warp drive,” the vast distances involved make it all but impossible for us to ever visit other planetary civilizations or for them to ever visit us.

Still, I suppose we cannot rule out such technologies.

 

[GLASNOST]

The size of our own galaxy makes it statistically possible, but that size means that we may never know or if we do discover an alien civilization it will be through signals that have traveled decades if not centuries to get here. Add the rest of the Universe and it becomes worthless. By the time we receive any signals from other galaxies those civilizations are likely long gone.

How fast can you run? How fast is the speed of a ballistic missile? And the speed of an alien space craft - how fast does that travel?

 

[Foxfyre]

Absent a magnificent technological breakthrough along the lines of what Star Trek labeled a “warp drive,” the vast distances involved make it all but impossible for us to ever visit other planetary civilizations or for them to ever visit us.

Still, I suppose we cannot rule out such technologies.

We enjoy our Natural History and Science Museum here in Albuquerque and the scientific movies they show in the Dynamax Theater there. Not all that long ago we watched a documentary on exploring space and they demonstrated how warp drive can be achieved which would allow us to explore our solar system much more efficiently as well as leave our solar system and explore elsewhere. We haven't developed the technology yet but know it can be done.

If other beings from elsewhere in the universe have been checking us out, and I think the probability of that is pretty good, their technology is obviously far advanced from ours. We would still be in the infancy of scientific knowledge in comparison. I am 100% percent that we know only a tiny bit of all the science there is to know.

 

[yidnar]

Absent a magnificent technological breakthrough along the lines of what Star Trek labeled a “warp drive,” the vast distances involved make it all but impossible for us to ever visit other planetary civilizations or for them to ever visit us.

Still, I suppose we cannot rule out such technologies.

people connected to the US military and gov just testified to Congress that there are craft flying around that defy the laws of physics .. they even have film footage from the military .. they claimed the technology is beyond anything we can produce or understand ..

 

[Mister Iggy]

I haven’t watch the vid yet, but I will. Joe is cool.

Aliens are already here. The technology we already have is so advanced, they just dumb it down and hide it from us.

The human experience or expression, is already playing out a full, alien agenda. Everything is highly manipulated.

The game is, can you awaken to it?

 

[GLASNOST]

..... The technology we already have is so advanced, they just dumb it down and hide it from us ......

Can anyone with eyes, ears, and a brain really deny that? Do deniers think the term "highly classified information" refers to the location of the men's room?

 

[Mister Iggy]

Can anyone with eyes, ears, and a brain really deny that? Do deniers think the term "highly classified information" refers to the location of the men's room?

Check out this episode of Candace Owens on the Malaysian Airlines missing plane, if you haven’t seen it. It’s exceptional and really does show how advanced things are.. how they are dumbing it down and clearly, that a lot of UFO looking stuff, is probably us..

 

[toobfreak]

Aliens: Are we sceptical of their existence​

Well, Glas, I will just tell you what I've told people here before:

• I've been quit the amateur space observer in my life and among other things, back in the late 1960s observed three stellar objects high in the sky one night in my first telescope performing maneuvers flying together that were totally physically impossible for anything man-made to do even to this day. Things like instantaneous changes in direction and speed.
• Many years ago, an aunt of mine who lived on a remote country farm related to me her seeing an object rising out of her woods that was unlike anything we had at the time and still not today.
• Before he died, a dear friend of mine who knew he didn't have long to live related personal accounts to me of experiences he had.

Beyond that, dismissing 95% of all reported sightings and incidents which can be explained away as natural or other things, that still leaves the other 5% which still adds up to thousands and thousands of bizarre events witnessed which no one, not even the authorities, have the slightest credible explanation for.

You take from that what you wish.

 

[GLASNOST]

Well, Glas, I will just tell you what I've told people here before:

• I've been quit the amateur space observer in my life and among other things, back in the late 1960s observed three stellar objects high in the sky one night in my first telescope performing maneuvers flying together that were totally physically impossible for anything man-made to do even to this day. Things like instantaneous changes in direction and speed.
• Many years ago, an aunt of mine who lived on a remote country farm related to me her seeing an object rising out of her woods that was unlike anything we had at the time and still not today.
• Before he died, a dear friend of mine who knew he didn't have long to live related personal accounts to me of experiences he had.

I believe you.

... dismissing 95% ... away as natural ... that still leaves the other 5% which still adds up to thousands and thousands of bizarre events witnessed which no one, not even the authorities, have the slightest credible explanation for.

Yes, that 5% (minimum) is something we need to accept as just that ....... "unexplained" and worth taken seriously.

 

[GLASNOST]

Check out this episode of Candace Owens on the Malaysian Airlines missing plane, if you haven’t seen it. It’s exceptional and really does show how advanced things are.. how they are dumbing it down and clearly, that a lot of UFO looking stuff, is probably us..

I am going to watch it ..... RIGHT NOW.

 

[Mister Iggy]

I am going to watch it ..... RIGHT NOW.

I’ve watched it 3 times.. i might watch it again.. Candace has gone full conspiracy theorist, i love it..

 

[toobfreak]

I believe you.

I once gave a very detailed account of the event in the late 60s with the three objects, but I could not find where is was in a cursory search. I've seen one other object naked eye, again back in the 60s, and two other objects through telescopes (other than the triangle of objects related above), not to mention numerous personal accounts with people I've known, and as an educated and highly skilled observer, and after dismissing everything dismissable as possibly explainable by ordinary ecvents, my only possible conclusion from it all left over that I cannot dismiss is that:

• The government either has fantastic technology like Star Wars centuries ahead of anything we know it keeps totally secret.
• There are alien races from other planets visiting the Earth.

And maybe from that, maybe aliens among us or clandestinely involved with our government already running things here for reasons unknown.

Here, the last object I spotted through a telescope (about 20 years ago), I was able to take some afocal pictures of it. It was at dusk while the sun was down but the sky still lit. Here is one of them.

 

[Failzero]

The disappearance of “ Giant “ Skeletons and Remains over last 125 Years is an indication that there is hesitancy . ( Laws like NAGPRA need to be repealed so historical finds can be secured & studied )

 

[GLASNOST]

I’ve watched it 3 times.. i might watch it again.. Candace has gone full conspiracy theorist, i love it..

I'm halfway through it, taking a break.

 

[Mister Iggy]

I'm halfway through it, taking a break.

Yeah, i started watching it again, im at the 2 hour mark.. it’s so good.

 

[GLASNOST]

..... maybe aliens among us or clandestinely involved with our government already running things here for reasons unknown.

This would explain many things and I (as an Agnostic) have long considered the possibility because logic (as we know it) does not correspond with (for example) the obvious outrageous behaviour of the government and its acceptance, such as support for Camel Hairless and Hank Johnson (among so many.) We accept shills as a matter of fact but who is it attributed to? And then there is the whole trans gender business. AND, of course, the meaning of life. How can men like Bush Junior commit such an illegal invasion and occupation with impunity? What does he know that you and I do not know?

 

[luiza]

Denying the existence of UFOs(UAPs) is as stupid as denying the existence of Trees or Houses .
However , knowing exactly what they represent and where they come from is a little different .

Having studied the subject for more than 40 years and having had some but limited access to past and present Black Ops personnel, I can say that I know Aliens not only exist but are common place .
"Know" .
Not , " Believe" .
Though I do not expect others to blindly accept my assertion .

I strongly believe that this whole area of discussion will be discussed everywhere very soon with huge ramifications .

However , and IMHO, we need to be looking at Alien intentions which are assumed to be friendly in the Dr Greer camp but far from friendly from other expert individuals and Government "insiders " .
That is , Government interaction has occurred in several parts of the world and that some of the existing agreements stemming back just over 70 years are vile and wicked.
I can expand further in that area but doubt that most would even comprehend , let alone believe .

 

[GLASNOST]

Denying the existence of UFOs(UAPs) is as stupid as denying the existence of Trees or Houses .

Allow me to side-step your conviction by asking for the definition of UFO. "Unidentified" by whom? It seems to me to be another "Highly Classified Info" or "Nine out of ten doctors say ..." scam. Just using the term UFO gives the Big Boys a free card and we, the average Joe, self-censure ourselves by using the term. You and I consider it unidentified - but the Deep State? The Deep State itself is unidentified as far as we can see, so, maybe ..... hmmmmm.

... I can say that I know Aliens not only exist but are common place .
"Know" . Not , " Believe" .

I'm listening.

I strongly believe that this whole area of discussion will be discussed everywhere very soon

I agree ....

with huge ramifications .

... but on this I do not agree. We are being groomed slowly by leaking small tidbits (such as the video in my OP) with the intention of preparing us for that "whole area of discussion" you speak of. Once we get women to wear shoes we can then start preparing them to accept wearing high-heels.

However , and IMHO, we need to be looking at Alien intentions

We have nothing to go on except that if the government is in cahoots and it is carry on with its treachery unabated then those "intentions" don't look very good and the moral high ground we cherish will be demolished.

I can expand further in that area but doubt that most would even comprehend , let alone believe .

I am not yet willing to say what I think out loud.