Algerian writer: “Take Islam back from the Islamists!”

[aris2chat]

Sansal is not the only voice of reason.
Muslims/arabs are recognizing the horrific the jews, and others, went through.
Time to put the hate away and care for each other.


Article On Jordanian Website: The Lessons Of The Holocaust Are International; All Peoples Must Combat Racism And Extremism


On January 28, 2014, on the occasion of International Holocaust Remembrance Day on January 27, the Jordanian news website almamlakahnews.com posted an article stating that the Holocaust is the most heinous crime in human history and that all peoples must learn a lesson from it. The article added that, even though the German Nazi regime has ceased to exist, antisemitism has not passed from the world, and even today we witness attacks on Jews. Hence, antisemitism must be fought, along with all other racist and extremist ideologies that ultimately lead only to bloodshed.

It should be noted that the article was also posted on the website's Facebook page, which has approximately 10,000 followers.The following are excerpts:

 

[Phoenall]

Sources matter. If you select an article from a source that's a recognizable hate site - it taints it and it's difficult to get around that.

Would you take seriously someone who posted an article from a site such as Jew Watch News

I wouldn't.

When people choose to use such sites for their sources, then it leads one to question their agendas as well.

Would you take someone who read the book "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion", claiming the book to be factual seriously?

Yes or no ?

Would YOU take an article seriously that was posted from a site that promotes mass deportation of all Muslims?

Depends on the original source. But I see you are being disingenuous with your references as the site does not promote mass deportation of all muslims. It gives an example of how one nation dealt with the muslim issue and asks should we do the same thing.
You take seriously the words of a religion that promotes stoning of women, amputations for thieves and exectution of homosexuals. Shows a bias in my opinion that should not be there in a person in your position.

 

[Phoenall]

Nope. I trashed the source. I investigated it. Did you?

Nope.

You like the message you don't look at the source.

Then I read the article

Doesn't change the fact that the source is crap. But hey, I'll remember that next time you whine about something posted from Ma'an news or one of those sites you constantly trash

The source is the author, former Algerian Minister of Trade Boualem Sansal, who courageously said what many have said for years ... that Islam has been hijacked by radical Islamists and his co-religionist's failure to stand up to them is a threat to all peace-seeking peeps. Sunni Man dumped on the "pro-western infidel" and you piled-on like a good little lap dog before even reading the article. Now you have egg all over you ... again.

The source used to link was "The Muslim Issue" - a well known hate site. I usually won't read articles from hate sites because it's a way of supporting them and their message - and I won't.

You can. You probably agree with the message of those sites. I don't.

You are mixing up source and link and getting them back asswards. The source is always the primary source in this case the author, the link to that source is the site that posted the details. So in this case the link was "the muslim issue" the source was the book written by Boualem Sansal.
As someone else has already posted when the muslim convert downed the author you jumped in with both feet to support him. Care to explain your double standards and hypocrisy

 

[Phoenall]

Would you take someone who read the book "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion", claiming the book to be factual seriously?

Yes or no ?

I wouldn't take them seriously - I'd either bunk off to Conspiracy Theoryland or I might think they were pulling my leg.

Guess what, Sunni Man believes the book to be factual.

Looks like you won't be taking him seriously any more , eh?

The book is factual in a fictitious sort of way as it was written by communists using a German book on socialism as their inspiration. The muslims got a hold of a copy and re wrote it as if it had been written by Jewish rabbi's. So the source is factual but the book is a hate treatise

 

[Roudy]

there are other voices out there

5 min ago
Algerian writer: “Take Islam back from the Islamists!”
Terrorist created by Grand Mufti al-Hussaini that forced itself onto Israel for the sake of Jihad began in Egypt and Saudi Arabia. The terrorists who forced their way into Israel from Egypt ended up in Gaza. The terrorists pouring in from…

The author is very ignorant of history.. He's just parroting what lame brains want to hear.

Nah, there are plenty like him, question is will they be brave enough to voice their opinion.

[ame=http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ao94x-KemJA]Arabs for Israel - Muslims for Israel - Dr.Tawfik Hamid - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Phoenall]

there are other voices out there

5 min ago
Algerian writer: “Take Islam back from the Islamists!”
Terrorist created by Grand Mufti al-Hussaini that forced itself onto Israel for the sake of Jihad began in Egypt and Saudi Arabia. The terrorists who forced their way into Israel from Egypt ended up in Gaza. The terrorists pouring in from…

The author is very ignorant of history.. He's just parroting what lame brains want to hear.

So I guess the Koran and hadiths are just parroting what lame brains want to hear as well. Or how about the book by the ayatollah khomieni that instructs muslims in how to go about having sex with babies and animals

 

[Phoenall]

True........

He is just writing foolishness about Islam so that naive western people will buy his books and make him a lot of money.

When in reality, muslim people think he is a loon and wouldn't give him the time of day. ...

Yeah! Allah forbid a true Muslim would suggest that his co-religionists need to marginalize their rabid Islamists and make 21st century Islamic culture something peaceful! Somebody get me a fatwa, quick!

Like the ex Islamic terrorist Walid Shoebat who exposed the truth behind islam . He makes very interesting reading

 

[aris2chat]

The source is the author, former Algerian Minister of Trade Boualem Sansal, who courageously said what many have said for years ... that Islam has been hijacked by radical Islamists and his co-religionist's failure to stand up to them is a threat to all peace-seeking peeps. Sunni Man dumped on the "pro-western infidel" and you piled-on like a good little lap dog before even reading the article. Now you have egg all over you ... again.

The source used to link was "The Muslim Issue" - a well known hate site. I usually won't read articles from hate sites because it's a way of supporting them and their message - and I won't.

You can. You probably agree with the message of those sites. I don't.

You are mixing up source and link and getting them back asswards. The source is always the primary source in this case the author, the link to that source is the site that posted the details. So in this case the link was "the muslim issue" the source was the book written by Boualem Sansal.
As someone else has already posted when the muslim convert downed the author you jumped in with both feet to support him. Care to explain your double standards and hypocrisy

Many articles are in other languages first. Then translated or picked by various sites.


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This is just one of my news sources. If I find an "english" version, I don't worry about who is using it for propaganda. I go by the article.
I know there are mad radical out there, but there are moderate too. I care about both.

If we can limit or eliminate the myths and rhetoric we can speak as people that need to compromise and learn to live in peace.

 

[Coyote]

Would you take someone who read the book "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion", claiming the book to be factual seriously?

Yes or no ?

Would YOU take an article seriously that was posted from a site that promotes mass deportation of all Muslims?

Depends on the original source. But I see you are being disingenuous with your references as the site does not promote mass deportation of all muslims. It gives an example of how one nation dealt with the muslim issue and asks should we do the same thing.
You take seriously the words of a religion that promotes stoning of women, amputations for thieves and exectution of homosexuals. Shows a bias in my opinion that should not be there in a person in your position.

It does NOT ask "should we do the same thing" - it demands it. Now who's full of double standards and hypocrisy?

The OP is, in part, about eliminating/reducing hate. Sites like these instigate hate.

He's not asking "should we" - he is telling you we "must".

(New Video) Muslim Sharia Patrol gets worse in London: ?We are in East, West, North, South London ? we are here to bring Sharia. Police can go to hell? |
It is time for the UK to stop wasting their military abroad, but bring them to patrol their own streets and begin to remove Muslims. And it is vital time to plan and arrange deportation programs – and even arrange new deportation programs for practicing Muslims born in England to be deported to their parent’s country of origin. Over 30 planning permissions for mosques was submitted in the UK in 2012 alone. The country need to put a complete stop on any further mosques and begin to gradually close the many mosques and schools hey have allowed in the country. The building are used to spread out and intimidate locals to move away so Islam can rule the area. Islam is not compatible with the modern world. The British government has to stop allowing them in senior positions of the police, government, immigration, security, etc.

 

[Phoenall]

Would YOU take an article seriously that was posted from a site that promotes mass deportation of all Muslims?

Depends on the original source. But I see you are being disingenuous with your references as the site does not promote mass deportation of all muslims. It gives an example of how one nation dealt with the muslim issue and asks should we do the same thing.
You take seriously the words of a religion that promotes stoning of women, amputations for thieves and exectution of homosexuals. Shows a bias in my opinion that should not be there in a person in your position.

It does NOT ask "should we do the same thing" - it demands it. Now who's full of double standards and hypocrisy?

The OP is, in part, about eliminating/reducing hate. Sites like these instigate hate.

He's not asking "should we" - he is telling you we "must".

(New Video) Muslim Sharia Patrol gets worse in London: ?We are in East, West, North, South London ? we are here to bring Sharia. Police can go to hell? |
It is time for the UK to stop wasting their military abroad, but bring them to patrol their own streets and begin to remove Muslims. And it is vital time to plan and arrange deportation programs – and even arrange new deportation programs for practicing Muslims born in England to be deported to their parent’s country of origin. Over 30 planning permissions for mosques was submitted in the UK in 2012 alone. The country need to put a complete stop on any further mosques and begin to gradually close the many mosques and schools hey have allowed in the country. The building are used to spread out and intimidate locals to move away so Islam can rule the area. Islam is not compatible with the modern world. The British government has to stop allowing them in senior positions of the police, government, immigration, security, etc.

So now you are calling yourself a LIAR as you posted that a certain reporter used the tactics of the ottomans as an example of what muslims respect, and she is correct in every detail.
As for the above it is echoed on every street in the UK that has a large muslim contingent that is under the belief that they are the rulers. They have created no go areas that see bloodshed every day. Any that get rise to positions of power soon start the threaten others with violence. A good example is the muslim Lord ahmed who threatened the British parliament with 1 million muslims storming the building if they allowed the screening of the film FITNA. They have been caught rigging votes in elections so that their preferred candidate can be elected. Their mosques have been found to contain illegal weapons and fake passports/travel documents. Terrorist handbooks and videos are on open sale at all British mosques, and terrorist suspects are allowed to preach their hatred and racism in the mosques. Their schools are known to teach the youngsters that Jews and Christians are apes and pigs and that homosexuals should be killed out of hand.

So the British public are demanding action against the muslim interlopers and want them removing from this country when they are convicted of any crime. They want the mosques that harbour terrorists closed down and bulldozed, and the likes of Lord ahmed removing from his position of power. That is the reality of how the majority of British people view muslims, and they only have themselves to blame.

 

[Coyote]

Depends on the original source. But I see you are being disingenuous with your references as the site does not promote mass deportation of all muslims. It gives an example of how one nation dealt with the muslim issue and asks should we do the same thing.
You take seriously the words of a religion that promotes stoning of women, amputations for thieves and exectution of homosexuals. Shows a bias in my opinion that should not be there in a person in your position.

It does NOT ask "should we do the same thing" - it demands it. Now who's full of double standards and hypocrisy?

The OP is, in part, about eliminating/reducing hate. Sites like these instigate hate.

He's not asking "should we" - he is telling you we "must".

(New Video) Muslim Sharia Patrol gets worse in London: ?We are in East, West, North, South London ? we are here to bring Sharia. Police can go to hell? |
It is time for the UK to stop wasting their military abroad, but bring them to patrol their own streets and begin to remove Muslims. And it is vital time to plan and arrange deportation programs – and even arrange new deportation programs for practicing Muslims born in England to be deported to their parent’s country of origin. Over 30 planning permissions for mosques was submitted in the UK in 2012 alone. The country need to put a complete stop on any further mosques and begin to gradually close the many mosques and schools hey have allowed in the country. The building are used to spread out and intimidate locals to move away so Islam can rule the area. Islam is not compatible with the modern world. The British government has to stop allowing them in senior positions of the police, government, immigration, security, etc.

So now you are calling yourself a LIAR as you posted that a certain reporter used the tactics of the ottomans as an example of what muslims respect, and she is correct in every detail.
As for the above it is echoed on every street in the UK that has a large muslim contingent that is under the belief that they are the rulers. They have created no go areas that see bloodshed every day. Any that get rise to positions of power soon start the threaten others with violence. A good example is the muslim Lord ahmed who threatened the British parliament with 1 million muslims storming the building if they allowed the screening of the film FITNA. They have been caught rigging votes in elections so that their preferred candidate can be elected. Their mosques have been found to contain illegal weapons and fake passports/travel documents. Terrorist handbooks and videos are on open sale at all British mosques, and terrorist suspects are allowed to preach their hatred and racism in the mosques. Their schools are known to teach the youngsters that Jews and Christians are apes and pigs and that homosexuals should be killed out of hand.

So the British public are demanding action against the muslim interlopers and want them removing from this country when they are convicted of any crime. They want the mosques that harbour terrorists closed down and bulldozed, and the likes of Lord ahmed removing from his position of power. That is the reality of how the majority of British people view muslims, and they only have themselves to blame.

So you support hate sites that seek to remove basic civil rights of innocent people solely because of their religious beliefs.

 

[MHunterB]

It does NOT ask "should we do the same thing" - it demands it. Now who's full of double standards and hypocrisy?

The OP is, in part, about eliminating/reducing hate. Sites like these instigate hate.

He's not asking "should we" - he is telling you we "must".

(New Video) Muslim Sharia Patrol gets worse in London: ?We are in East, West, North, South London ? we are here to bring Sharia. Police can go to hell? |
It is time for the UK to stop wasting their military abroad, but bring them to patrol their own streets and begin to remove Muslims. And it is vital time to plan and arrange deportation programs – and even arrange new deportation programs for practicing Muslims born in England to be deported to their parent’s country of origin. Over 30 planning permissions for mosques was submitted in the UK in 2012 alone. The country need to put a complete stop on any further mosques and begin to gradually close the many mosques and schools hey have allowed in the country. The building are used to spread out and intimidate locals to move away so Islam can rule the area. Islam is not compatible with the modern world. The British government has to stop allowing them in senior positions of the police, government, immigration, security, etc.

So now you are calling yourself a LIAR as you posted that a certain reporter used the tactics of the ottomans as an example of what muslims respect, and she is correct in every detail.
As for the above it is echoed on every street in the UK that has a large muslim contingent that is under the belief that they are the rulers. They have created no go areas that see bloodshed every day. Any that get rise to positions of power soon start the threaten others with violence. A good example is the muslim Lord ahmed who threatened the British parliament with 1 million muslims storming the building if they allowed the screening of the film FITNA. They have been caught rigging votes in elections so that their preferred candidate can be elected. Their mosques have been found to contain illegal weapons and fake passports/travel documents. Terrorist handbooks and videos are on open sale at all British mosques, and terrorist suspects are allowed to preach their hatred and racism in the mosques. Their schools are known to teach the youngsters that Jews and Christians are apes and pigs and that homosexuals should be killed out of hand.

So the British public are demanding action against the muslim interlopers and want them removing from this country when they are convicted of any crime. They want the mosques that harbour terrorists closed down and bulldozed, and the likes of Lord ahmed removing from his position of power. That is the reality of how the majority of British people view muslims, and they only have themselves to blame.

So you support hate sites that seek to remove basic civil rights of innocent people solely because of their religious beliefs.

Shall I give the list of some of the other posters here who've supported exactly that??? I don't think it's wise or 'American' to even entertain such thoughts - I will caution Phoneall against adopting the tactics of those haters, because I think it sullies and degrades whatever 'cause' one is endorsing.

 

[Coyote]

So now you are calling yourself a LIAR as you posted that a certain reporter used the tactics of the ottomans as an example of what muslims respect, and she is correct in every detail.
As for the above it is echoed on every street in the UK that has a large muslim contingent that is under the belief that they are the rulers. They have created no go areas that see bloodshed every day. Any that get rise to positions of power soon start the threaten others with violence. A good example is the muslim Lord ahmed who threatened the British parliament with 1 million muslims storming the building if they allowed the screening of the film FITNA. They have been caught rigging votes in elections so that their preferred candidate can be elected. Their mosques have been found to contain illegal weapons and fake passports/travel documents. Terrorist handbooks and videos are on open sale at all British mosques, and terrorist suspects are allowed to preach their hatred and racism in the mosques. Their schools are known to teach the youngsters that Jews and Christians are apes and pigs and that homosexuals should be killed out of hand.

So the British public are demanding action against the muslim interlopers and want them removing from this country when they are convicted of any crime. They want the mosques that harbour terrorists closed down and bulldozed, and the likes of Lord ahmed removing from his position of power. That is the reality of how the majority of British people view muslims, and they only have themselves to blame.

So you support hate sites that seek to remove basic civil rights of innocent people solely because of their religious beliefs.

Shall I give the list of some of the other posters here who've supported exactly that??? I don't think it's wise or 'American' to even entertain such thoughts - I will caution Phoneall against adopting the tactics of those haters, because I think it sullies and degrades whatever 'cause' one is endorsing.

It's your choice Marge. Hate sites are hate sites - whether directed against Jews, Muslims, Blacks or Hispanics - it's the same. The sad thing here is that there is a significant segment here that supports and seeks to legitimize those hate sites, particularly if directed against Muslims.

They don't have the strength of voice here that Jews do. They are much more villified in this country.

Just look at what happens when someone here goes off on Muslims. How many speak up?

Look at what happens when someone (and I'll use Holston as an example) - goes off on Jews? Almost everyone jumps on it.

Something to think about before chastizing me on my choices.

You don't need to caution anyone. Those that have spoken out in support of sites like that clearly indicate their belief in the legitimacy of those sites.

 

[SAYIT]

So you support hate sites that seek to remove basic civil rights of innocent people solely because of their religious beliefs.

Shall I give the list of some of the other posters here who've supported exactly that??? I don't think it's wise or 'American' to even entertain such thoughts - I will caution Phoneall against adopting the tactics of those haters, because I think it sullies and degrades whatever 'cause' one is endorsing.

It's your choice Marge. Hate sites are hate sites - whether directed against Jews, Muslims, Blacks or Hispanics - it's the same. The sad thing here is that there is a significant segment here that supports and seeks to legitimize those hate sites, particularly if directed against Muslims.

They don't have the strength of voice here that Jews do. They are much more villified in this country.

Just look at what happens when someone here goes off on Muslims. How many speak up?

Look at what happens when someone (and I'll use Holston as an example) - goes off on Jews? Almost everyone jumps on it.

Something to think about before chastizing me on my choices.

You don't need to caution anyone. Those that have spoken out in support of sites like that clearly indicate their belief in the legitimacy of those sites.

While you are correct about hate sites you are wrong to deflect from the courageous message of the engineer, economist and former Algerian Trade Minister. He says Islam has been hijacked by rabid dogs and Muslims, or at least Algerians of good will, must reclaim it. I don't understand your eagerness to dismiss that message and deflect from the focus of this thread. If you want to discuss hate sites I suggest you start a thread on that subject.

 

[Phoenall]

It does NOT ask "should we do the same thing" - it demands it. Now who's full of double standards and hypocrisy?

The OP is, in part, about eliminating/reducing hate. Sites like these instigate hate.

He's not asking "should we" - he is telling you we "must".

(New Video) Muslim Sharia Patrol gets worse in London: ?We are in East, West, North, South London ? we are here to bring Sharia. Police can go to hell? |
It is time for the UK to stop wasting their military abroad, but bring them to patrol their own streets and begin to remove Muslims. And it is vital time to plan and arrange deportation programs – and even arrange new deportation programs for practicing Muslims born in England to be deported to their parent’s country of origin. Over 30 planning permissions for mosques was submitted in the UK in 2012 alone. The country need to put a complete stop on any further mosques and begin to gradually close the many mosques and schools hey have allowed in the country. The building are used to spread out and intimidate locals to move away so Islam can rule the area. Islam is not compatible with the modern world. The British government has to stop allowing them in senior positions of the police, government, immigration, security, etc.

So now you are calling yourself a LIAR as you posted that a certain reporter used the tactics of the ottomans as an example of what muslims respect, and she is correct in every detail.
As for the above it is echoed on every street in the UK that has a large muslim contingent that is under the belief that they are the rulers. They have created no go areas that see bloodshed every day. Any that get rise to positions of power soon start the threaten others with violence. A good example is the muslim Lord ahmed who threatened the British parliament with 1 million muslims storming the building if they allowed the screening of the film FITNA. They have been caught rigging votes in elections so that their preferred candidate can be elected. Their mosques have been found to contain illegal weapons and fake passports/travel documents. Terrorist handbooks and videos are on open sale at all British mosques, and terrorist suspects are allowed to preach their hatred and racism in the mosques. Their schools are known to teach the youngsters that Jews and Christians are apes and pigs and that homosexuals should be killed out of hand.

So the British public are demanding action against the muslim interlopers and want them removing from this country when they are convicted of any crime. They want the mosques that harbour terrorists closed down and bulldozed, and the likes of Lord ahmed removing from his position of power. That is the reality of how the majority of British people view muslims, and they only have themselves to blame.

So you support hate sites that seek to remove basic civil rights of innocent people solely because of their religious beliefs.

WHY DO YOU LIE ABOUT WHAT I HAVE POSTED.

For the record here is your words that you have just said you did not write

If a government wants to learn how to manage growing Islamic problems, take some advice from Ottoman army officer Mustafa Kemal Atatürk. Atatürk abolished Islam by putting a complete ban on Islamic materials, demolishing mosques, and removing any traces of Islam in his country to get rid of the evil. Those who tried to revolt were put in their place, or basically killed….

No demands just a recommendation of how it could be done. AN APOLOGY WILL BE ACCEPTED GRACEFULLY

 

[Phoenall]

So now you are calling yourself a LIAR as you posted that a certain reporter used the tactics of the ottomans as an example of what muslims respect, and she is correct in every detail.
As for the above it is echoed on every street in the UK that has a large muslim contingent that is under the belief that they are the rulers. They have created no go areas that see bloodshed every day. Any that get rise to positions of power soon start the threaten others with violence. A good example is the muslim Lord ahmed who threatened the British parliament with 1 million muslims storming the building if they allowed the screening of the film FITNA. They have been caught rigging votes in elections so that their preferred candidate can be elected. Their mosques have been found to contain illegal weapons and fake passports/travel documents. Terrorist handbooks and videos are on open sale at all British mosques, and terrorist suspects are allowed to preach their hatred and racism in the mosques. Their schools are known to teach the youngsters that Jews and Christians are apes and pigs and that homosexuals should be killed out of hand.

So the British public are demanding action against the muslim interlopers and want them removing from this country when they are convicted of any crime. They want the mosques that harbour terrorists closed down and bulldozed, and the likes of Lord ahmed removing from his position of power. That is the reality of how the majority of British people view muslims, and they only have themselves to blame.

So you support hate sites that seek to remove basic civil rights of innocent people solely because of their religious beliefs.

Shall I give the list of some of the other posters here who've supported exactly that??? I don't think it's wise or 'American' to even entertain such thoughts - I will caution Phoneall against adopting the tactics of those haters, because I think it sullies and degrades whatever 'cause' one is endorsing.

Try again as I have posted what the majority of Brits think, me I would offer them repatriation with a small sum to tide them over or enforced military service for 3 years in an Islamic theatre of war. The destruction of existing mosques as soon as a new one is built so that the capacity stays the same. A nominated person who will take the blame for any criminal activity in a mosque, who will also keep a record of all members of that mosque. Any found guilty of a criminal offence to be deported once their sentence is served, any with dual nationality to lose their British one and all the rights it conveys. You want to live in peace and safety then you need to remove the major threat and in this case it is islam.

 

[Phoenall]

So you support hate sites that seek to remove basic civil rights of innocent people solely because of their religious beliefs.

Shall I give the list of some of the other posters here who've supported exactly that??? I don't think it's wise or 'American' to even entertain such thoughts - I will caution Phoneall against adopting the tactics of those haters, because I think it sullies and degrades whatever 'cause' one is endorsing.

It's your choice Marge. Hate sites are hate sites - whether directed against Jews, Muslims, Blacks or Hispanics - it's the same. The sad thing here is that there is a significant segment here that supports and seeks to legitimize those hate sites, particularly if directed against Muslims.

They don't have the strength of voice here that Jews do. They are much more villified in this country.

Just look at what happens when someone here goes off on Muslims. How many speak up?

Look at what happens when someone (and I'll use Holston as an example) - goes off on Jews? Almost everyone jumps on it.

Something to think about before chastizing me on my choices.

You don't need to caution anyone. Those that have spoken out in support of sites like that clearly indicate their belief in the legitimacy of those sites.

To you and your own biased POV any site that raises awareness of Islamic terrorism, violence and atrocities is a hate site now. The people of the UK have faced terrorism head on every day, unlike the US that has had one incident that raised questions and resulted in a war. We are on constant alert of islamonazi terror attacks and our own security people have said that they know of 2,000 terrorists in the UK. Because of human rights laws and civil liberties we are unable to take any action against them until they step out of line. How many times have you seen that then UK security forces have thwarted yet another islamonazi terrorist attack, and every one aimed at unarmed women and children. We are not allowed to posses guns so cant defend ourselves against terrorism, so we do it the peaceful way and demand changes in the law to combat terrorism. If this means that a handful of muslims are inconvenienced by being deported then isn't that better than having 500 children MASS MURDERED in a school by a terrorists bomb. Every daily paper has comments sections and we see the comments daily of how the muslims are taking over and should be stopped, are the daily papers now hate sites. Or how about the TV stations that do the same thing, are they also hate sites. Until you are forced to live in fear of your life you will never understand how high feelings can run.


And I saw your RABID ISLAMONAZI ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATRED when you had your little racist dig at the Jews. time to take a long hard look at yourself before telling others they should not be concerned about their own safety.

 

[Roudy]

Shall I give the list of some of the other posters here who've supported exactly that??? I don't think it's wise or 'American' to even entertain such thoughts - I will caution Phoneall against adopting the tactics of those haters, because I think it sullies and degrades whatever 'cause' one is endorsing.

It's your choice Marge. Hate sites are hate sites - whether directed against Jews, Muslims, Blacks or Hispanics - it's the same. The sad thing here is that there is a significant segment here that supports and seeks to legitimize those hate sites, particularly if directed against Muslims.

They don't have the strength of voice here that Jews do. They are much more villified in this country.

Just look at what happens when someone here goes off on Muslims. How many speak up?

Look at what happens when someone (and I'll use Holston as an example) - goes off on Jews? Almost everyone jumps on it.

Something to think about before chastizing me on my choices.

You don't need to caution anyone. Those that have spoken out in support of sites like that clearly indicate their belief in the legitimacy of those sites.

While you are correct about hate sites you are wrong to deflect from the courageous message of the engineer, economist and former Algerian Trade Minister. He says Islam has been hijacked by rabid dogs and Muslims, or at least Algerians of good will, must reclaim it. I don't understand your eagerness to dismiss that message and deflect from the focus of this thread. If you want to discuss hate sites I suggest you start a thread on that subject.

I agree. There is always this eagerness to dismiss and divert from the truth about Islam and Shariah law. No matter what the subject, the official Islam defender always rushes to the scene. It's pretty obvious what the reason for this behavior is.

 

[aris2chat]

either a religion stands up to scrutiny or it fails. It should be discuss in a scholarly way, in context and as a complete work, not phrases on their own.

 

[SAYIT]

So you support hate sites that seek to remove basic civil rights of innocent people solely because of their religious beliefs.

Shall I give the list of some of the other posters here who've supported exactly that??? I don't think it's wise or 'American' to even entertain such thoughts - I will caution Phoneall against adopting the tactics of those haters, because I think it sullies and degrades whatever 'cause' one is endorsing.

It's your choice Marge. Hate sites are hate sites - whether directed against Jews, Muslims, Blacks or Hispanics - it's the same. The sad thing here is that there is a significant segment here that supports and seeks to legitimize those hate sites, particularly if directed against Muslims.

They don't have the strength of voice here that Jews do. They are much more villified in this country.

Just look at what happens when someone here goes off on Muslims. How many speak up?

Look at what happens when someone (and I'll use Holston as an example) - goes off on Jews? Almost everyone jumps on it.

Something to think about before chastizing me on my choices.

You don't need to caution anyone. Those that have spoken out in support of sites like that clearly indicate their belief in the legitimacy of those sites.

Holston became, in very short order, one of the most ignored posters at USMB. His message was always the same ("I hate Jooos and I'll tell you why") and his whining was boring. When he was spanked it was by a wide range of people of good will who understood what he was about. This thread is about the opinion of an Algerian who believes Islam has been corrupted by radical Islamists who must be confronted by peace-seeking Muslims. Unfortunately the site from which his opinion was gleaned is neither mainstream nor unbiased and you latched onto that rather than consider the author's creds. If you wish to continue braying about nefarious web sites, please start a new thread and I will subscribe to it. Who knows ... we may find something on which we agree