Alarmists Fail to Refute Realistic Climate Report

[Sunsettommy]

The epic failure of the so called rebuttal is hilarious as they didn't address the single most important part at all.

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Science Matters

Alarmists Fail to Refute Realistic Climate Report

by Ron Clutz

September 15, 2025

Excerpt:

They shoot, they miss, we score. David Wojick reports on the laughable failure of alarmists in his CFACT article Attack on DOE Climate Report is a comedy of criticism. Excerpts in italics with my bolds and added images.

The DOE science report saying the impact of CO2 on climate is exaggerated was quickly followed by a massive alarmist report. The alarmist report claimed to refute the DOE report, and the press dutifully reported it doing that.

On close inspection, I find this claim to be not even close to true. In fact, it looks laughable. Mind you, this is a preliminary finding, as the two reports together run about 600 pages. I just took what is arguably the key DOE chapter and compared the two reports on that.

This is the chapter on CO2 sensitivity, which is how much warming will occur (in theory) if the atmospheric concentration doubled. It is a convenient metric that is widely used to assess the potential adverse impact, if any, of increasing CO2.

LINK

 

[1srelluc]

They sure missed on the whole Severe Hurricane Season (lower 48 landfall) this year.

 

[Sunsettommy]

They sure missed on the whole Severe Hurricane Season (lower 48 landfall) this year.

Yup the North Atlantic is now down to just 65% of average and still declining, it is heading towards one of the quietest hurricane seasons on record.

LINK

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Notice too that the heatwaves has been gone for several weeks now, it is why they are not screaming here in this forum,

I suspect they are at home in the basement curled up in a fetal ball weeping now that the world will not end this year.

 

[0311]

The epic failure of the so called rebuttal is hilarious as they didn't address the single most important part at all.

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Science Matters

Alarmists Fail to Refute Realistic Climate Report

by Ron Clutz

September 15, 2025

Excerpt:

They shoot, they miss, we score. David Wojick reports on the laughable failure of alarmists in his CFACT article Attack on DOE Climate Report is a comedy of criticism. Excerpts in italics with my bolds and added images.

The DOE science report saying the impact of CO2 on climate is exaggerated was quickly followed by a massive alarmist report. The alarmist report claimed to refute the DOE report, and the press dutifully reported it doing that.

On close inspection, I find this claim to be not even close to true. In fact, it looks laughable. Mind you, this is a preliminary finding, as the two reports together run about 600 pages. I just took what is arguably the key DOE chapter and compared the two reports on that.

This is the chapter on CO2 sensitivity, which is how much warming will occur (in theory) if the atmospheric concentration doubled. It is a convenient metric that is widely used to assess the potential adverse impact, if any, of increasing CO2.

LINK

Never, ever turn your back on ocean. It can kill you. King Waves, Sneaker Waves appear out of no where.

 

[1srelluc]

Never, ever turn your back on ocean. It can kill you. King Waves, Sneaker Waves appear out of no where.

That's the damn truth!

I was out Yellowfin Tuna fishing (we slayed them) and on the way back in the prop got fouled on a drifting buoy line.

The mate went over the side and cut it loose (we pulled it in and it filled the whole transom area around the fighting chair) but one shaft was bent so we were creeping back at half speed when a big ass wave came upon us.

The captain managed to turn into it but it still hit hard enough at our reduced speed to toss the captain overboard.

It came up in a dead calm sea!.....I don't even remember seeing it peak, it just rolled along.

We fished him out quick enough and continued on our way.

 

[ReinyDays]

The epic failure of the so called rebuttal is hilarious as they didn't address the single most important part at all.

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Science Matters

Alarmists Fail to Refute Realistic Climate Report

by Ron Clutz

September 15, 2025

Excerpt:

They shoot, they miss, we score. David Wojick reports on the laughable failure of alarmists in his CFACT article Attack on DOE Climate Report is a comedy of criticism. Excerpts in italics with my bolds and added images.

The DOE science report saying the impact of CO2 on climate is exaggerated was quickly followed by a massive alarmist report. The alarmist report claimed to refute the DOE report, and the press dutifully reported it doing that.

On close inspection, I find this claim to be not even close to true. In fact, it looks laughable. Mind you, this is a preliminary finding, as the two reports together run about 600 pages. I just took what is arguably the key DOE chapter and compared the two reports on that.

This is the chapter on CO2 sensitivity, which is how much warming will occur (in theory) if the atmospheric concentration doubled. It is a convenient metric that is widely used to assess the potential adverse impact, if any, of increasing CO2.

LINK

Yuppers ... that's how logarithmic relationships work ... that math is way too difficult for liberals ...

 

[ding]

The epic failure of the so called rebuttal is hilarious as they didn't address the single most important part at all.

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Science Matters

Alarmists Fail to Refute Realistic Climate Report

by Ron Clutz

September 15, 2025

Excerpt:

They shoot, they miss, we score. David Wojick reports on the laughable failure of alarmists in his CFACT article Attack on DOE Climate Report is a comedy of criticism. Excerpts in italics with my bolds and added images.

The DOE science report saying the impact of CO2 on climate is exaggerated was quickly followed by a massive alarmist report. The alarmist report claimed to refute the DOE report, and the press dutifully reported it doing that.

On close inspection, I find this claim to be not even close to true. In fact, it looks laughable. Mind you, this is a preliminary finding, as the two reports together run about 600 pages. I just took what is arguably the key DOE chapter and compared the two reports on that.

This is the chapter on CO2 sensitivity, which is how much warming will occur (in theory) if the atmospheric concentration doubled. It is a convenient metric that is widely used to assess the potential adverse impact, if any, of increasing CO2.

LINK

What I have been saying all along. 1C per doubling of CO2.

 

[ReinyDays]

What I have been saying all along. 1C per doubling of CO2.

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This alone refutes catastrophic climate change ... the mathematical inverse of exponential change ...

 

[San Souci]

Yup the North Atlantic is now down to just 65% of average and still declining, it is heading towards one of the quietest hurricane seasons on record.

LINK

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Notice too that the heatwaves has been gone for several weeks now, it is why they are not screaming here in this forum,

I suspect they are at home in the basement curled up in a fetal ball weeping now that the world will not end this year.

Actually ,here in CommieFornia it has been a Mild summer--Only a couple of 100+ days-- AVE High 80's. Cool Evenings

 

[EMH]

What I have been saying all along. 1C per doubling of CO2.

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the problem is that there is precisely ZERO data to back that claim up. The actual correlation per the satellites and balloons is


ABSOLUTE ZERO.

 

[EMH]

Yup the North Atlantic is now down to just 65% of average and still declining, it is heading towards one of the quietest hurricane seasons on record.

LINK

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Notice too that the heatwaves has been gone for several weeks now, it is why they are not screaming here in this forum,

I suspect they are at home in the basement curled up in a fetal ball weeping now that the world will not end this year.

way too early to celebrate.

2005 saw the latest ever start to the season...

 

[Sunsettommy]

way too early to celebrate.

2005 saw the latest ever start to the season...

Not this time as the forces that have been retarding cyclone development is still in operation.

 

[EMH]

Not this time as the forces that have been retarding cyclone development is still in operation.

Man, it is not even Sept 20th... weather can change.

 

[ding]

the problem is that there is precisely ZERO data to back that claim up. The actual correlation per the satellites and balloons is


ABSOLUTE ZERO.

Physics back it up. It’s literally a calculated number.

 

[ding]

Radiative forcing of greenhouse gases can be calculated using fundamental physics principles. These calculations use the physical properties of greenhouse gases, like their unique absorption spectra, to quantify how changes in their concentration create an energy imbalance (radiative forcing).

Each greenhouse gas has a unique "fingerprint" of wavelengths it absorbs and emits from the Earth's surface and atmosphere.

These calculations convert changes in the concentration of different gases into a single measure of their total warming effect, expressed in watts per square meter (W/m²).

Radiative forcing is a calculation, not a quantity directly measured by a single instrument, but is estimated from fundamental physics principles.

Now you know.

 

[Hafar1014]

Radiative forcing of greenhouse gases can be calculated using fundamental physics principles. These calculations use the physical properties of greenhouse gases, like their unique absorption spectra, to quantify how changes in their concentration create an energy imbalance (radiative forcing).

Now you know.

Why isnt Venice under water

 

[ding]

Why isnt Venice under water

Why should it be?

 

[Hafar1014]

Why should it be?

Sea level rising caused by global warming

 

[ding]

Sea level rising caused by global warming

Ok, the seas have been rising since the end of the last glacial period about 22,000 years ago. About 6,000 years ago the rate of rise leveled off at 3 to 4 mm per year. So can you tell me why you think a sea level rise of 3 to 4 mm per year would submerge Venice?

Show me your math. Because by inspection I can say I wouldn’t expect Venice to be under water based on the current rate of rise.

 

[ReinyDays]

Sea level rising caused by global warming

Venice? ... here's what Rick Stevens has to say about that:

Venice has battled rising water levels since the fifth century. But today, the water seems to be winning. Several factors, both natural and man-made, cause Venice to flood about 100 times a year — usually from October until late winter — a phenomenon called the acqua alta.

--- "Is Venice Sinking?"

Rick Stevens would never lie to us ...