Air Force said NO. 12K of them.

[Donald H]

This does not make it a lawful order. It just means that there is more culpability to go around. It was done only for political reasons and the troops have the right to disobey it as an unlawful order.

It takes more than an "order" to make something legal. Even a moron such as y ou should be able to understand that, unless the words are more than two letters and you refuse to understand them.

Lawful or not, it's all good if a significant numbr of America's troops ignore it. This is by far the best hope that the political fight has crept into the military.

A win for the dissernters would be a definite leg up for fascism!

Very unlikely yet, but battle lines have been drawn!

Be very careful of what you are hoping for Americans.

 

[Donald H]

They're Insanity of people like you continues to go on and off it's endless I'm not going to argue with you I'll just stick with the facts you live in your fantasy world where the military is a democracy. If you had gone through basic training you know they make you do ridiculous things and you wonder why but you do them anyway the whole purpose of it was that you have to obey commands no matter what they are so when the day comes when you're in a battle it's not going to be a group of people saying should we do this or should we do this the person who's had a command who decides whether the battle will go on or not the military is not a democracy like you don't get to choose what you want to do and what you do what's good for the whole unit if anything the military is more like the biggest socialized unit in the world.

Well said Stann!
But is the threat to America as close as it appears yet?

 

[AntonToo]

You have presented zero facts in support of your nonsense. You just keep insisting that your lies are true.

The only approval of any of these vaccines is for an additional jab and that is temporary.

You are fact challenged, along with being mentally challenged. Or maybe your lobotomy is wearing off.,

I linked to FDA website, which plainly states that FDA cleared Pfizer vaccine against Covid-19.

You have to be OUT OF YOUR ******* MIND to still not consider that a fact. At this point I'm convinced you are entirely nuts and have no ability to tell fact from fantasies floating around in your head.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Thalidomide was cleared by the FDA as "safe and effective".

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And that was with a lot more testing, and a lot more honest effort to make sure it was safe before it was approved, than has been applied to any of this mRNA bullshit.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

You can't discuss with morons, hon. May as well talk to a wall.

They are just starting to look like brick walls to me. What do you to a brick wall that just stands there between you and the rest of the sane world?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Polio, influenza, Measles-Mumps-Rubella, hepatitis A and chickenpox are all required and with full FDA clearance Covid-19 vaccine is legaly no different.

This mRNA shit is something completely different than traditionally, legitimate vaccines. To equate it in this manner is just plain dishonest.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Except that Covid does not have full FDA clearance, dummy. And as I said, with a variance they can be avoided, no matter what you Nazi lords tell you.

Btw, if is so legal and great, why the mandate? Educate people with the truth and you would not have to force the issue. Of course you never thought of that, did you?

That only works if the truth supports you.

In this case, it absolutely does not, hence the mandates.

 

[bodecea]

Air Force is first to face troops' rejection of vaccine mandate as thousands avoid shots

Up to 12,000 Air Force personnel have rejected orders to get fully vaccinated against the coronavirus despite a Pentagon mandate and officials say it is too late for them to do so by Tuesday's deadline, posing a first major test for military leaders whose August directive has been met with...

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Up to 12,000 Air Force personnel have rejected orders to get fully vaccinated against the coronavirus despite a Pentagon mandate and officials say it is too late for them to do so by Tuesday's deadline, posing a first major test for military leaders whose August directive has been met with defiance among a segment of the force.

The vast majority of active-duty airmen, 96.4%, are at least partially vaccinated, according to data from the Air Force. But officials have warned that, barring an approved medical or religious exemption, those who defy lawful orders to be fully immunized are subject to punishment, including possible dismissal from the service or they could be charged in the military justice system.

Mandates are not looking too slick these days.

Buh bye!

 

[Bob Blaylock]

A win for the dissernters [sic] would be a definite leg up for fascism!

It's very telling that you think resistance to unreasonable and illegal government mandates to serve as unwilling Guinea pigs in risky medical experiments is a sign of “Fascism”, but being the side attempting to force these mandates is not. A very Orwellian inversion.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

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I had this in mind.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Any other brands that you claim they approve of? And it still does not make it a legal order, except to a dumb marine who only does as he is told.

you and your stolen valor are dismissed. Nothing you say has any meaning after you outed yourself by forgetting your lies

 

[Bob Blaylock]

I had this in mind.
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I was thinking of my sledge hammer to smash the bricks, and my reciprocating saw to cut the rebar.

Not with that blade, though. That blade is for wood. For rebar in a demolished brick wall, I'd use a blade meant for metal, preferably a carbide-toothed blade.

 

[Colin norris]

For you that must have been a very enjoyable dream

But it wasnt pretty for the south vietnamese who were enslaved thanks to democrats in congress

Oh so it's the d democrats fault. Why didn't you say. I was foolishly under the impression it was the repuplican hawks who hated communism and must stop.it at all costs. Killing 55000 and leaving in defeat like kicked dogs doesn't matter. Nor does any gain come into it. Just show those commies who's running the world.

If there was a goat herders strike in Mongolia you would blame the democrats. Your pathetically ignorant.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Oh so it's the d democrats fault. Why didn't you say. I was foolishly under the impression it was the repuplican hawks who hated communism and must stop.it at all costs. Killing 55000 and leaving in defeat like kicked dogs doesn't matter. Nor does any gain come into it. Just show those commies who's running the world.

If there was a goat herders strike in Mongolia you would blame the democrats. Your pathetically ignorant.

His pathetically ignorant what?

 

[Catman51]

They're Insanity of people like you continues to go on and off it's endless I'm not going to argue with you I'll just stick with the facts you live in your fantasy world where the military is a democracy. If you had gone through basic training you know they make you do ridiculous things and you wonder why but you do them anyway the whole purpose of it was that you have to obey commands no matter what they are so when the day comes when you're in a battle it's not going to be a group of people saying should we do this or should we do this the person who's had a command who decides whether the battle will go on or not the military is not a democracy like you don't get to choose what you want to do and what you do what's good for the whole unit if anything the military is more like the biggest socialized unit in the world.

With your posting history, you should be careful who you call insane. Unless you are looking into a mirror.

Your alleged facts consist of nothing more than your desire to tell other people what to do and attempt to punish them when they don't bow to your illusions. Once again, armies thru history have blindly followed orders and been held liable for their choices. The military does not want robots, they want their members to be able to think. They want people who can think for themselves and do the right thing. Unlike yourself.

You obviously have never been in the military but claim to know all about it. As the military commanders realize, independent thought is essential in battle or failure is the only outcome when they don't. Without individual thought the battle is lost before it begins. You display no shred of individual thought, only to be told what to do. Hence your willingness to get the jab without knowing the outcome.

Now that is insane.

 

[Catman51]

Lawful or not, it's all good if a significant numbr of America's troops ignore it. This is by far the best hope that the political fight has crept into the military.

A win for the dissernters would be a definite leg up for fascism!

Very unlikely yet, but battle lines have been drawn!

Be very careful of what you are hoping for Americans.

Blindly following illegal orders is the true path to fascism, which you seem to be striving for.

 

[Catman51]

I linked to FDA website, which plainly states that FDA cleared Pfizer vaccine against Covid-19.

You have to be OUT OF YOUR ******* MIND to still not consider that a fact. At this point I'm convinced you are entirely nuts and have no ability to tell fact from fantasies floating around in your head.

Talking about yourself again? The FDA has changed it recommendations over and over so they cannot be trusted with anything as they have been totally politized.

 

[Catman51]

That only works if the truth supports you.

In this case, it absolutely does not, hence the mandates.

In a true free society there can be no mandates. Demanding total submission is not freedom, it is slavery.

 

[Catman51]

you and your stolen valor are dismissed. Nothing you say has any meaning after you outed yourself by forgetting your lies

I forget nothing and speak only the truth, unlike you who have been trained as a sheep to be used as cannon fodder.

Any stolen valor is in your mind as you have no valor at all.

 

[Catman51]

Nothing "reeks" more than a fool sporting stolen valor to make a lying point/comment.

You must be speaking of this 'Gator fellow. My DD214 supports my claims and there is nothing anyone can do to disprove it.