ahmaund arbery trial getting closer

[Curried Goats]

When they caught up with Ahmaud no weapons were displayed....Travis was driving and his shot gun was not displayed nor was the pistol carried by the father displayed.....the weapons were for self defense and nothing more.....they simply drove up next to Ahmaud rolled down the window and requested ahmaud to stop they needed to talk to him......they knew he was simply a suspect and nothing more....they did not need to go full force....they just wanted an explanation for why he was in the house under construction.

But those cuck boys knew they weren't man enough to demand those questions without their guns so they got out with them and made the entire encounter a felony.

Gregory had 30 yrs. of police experience and knew when to use a gun or when not to....he had never fired his weapon in all that time......he opted out of trying to make a citizens arrest....and just let the police handle it....after ahmaud refused to co-operate they just decided to keep him under observation and let the police handle it.

Apparently he didn't know shit because he's currently in jail getting his ass drilled out.

 

[Persuader]

But those cuck boys knew they weren't man enough to demand those questions without their guns so they got out with them and made the entire encounter a felony.

Apparently he didn't know shit because he's currently in jail getting his ass drilled out.

As pointed out the guns were for self protection....they did not know whether the suspect was armed or not......Gregory had previous experience with Ahmaud.....from back when ahmaud took a loaded pistol to a high school basketball game and ran but was chased down and caught by a cop.

They did not take their guns out until they were far away from ahmaud....around a 100 yds away.....they parked their truck and Gregory got on the phone with the police to inform them of what was happening.....he was still on the phone with the cops when ahmaud ran up and assaulted Travis....trying to steal his weapon....did not work out too well for the mental case.

Care to tell us how you analzyed the Zimmerman case?

I would bet you are batting 000

 

[Curried Goats]

As pointed out the guns were for self protection....they did not know whether the suspect was armed or not......Gregory had previous experience with Ahmaud.....from back when ahmaud took a loaded pistol to a high school basketball game and ran but was chased down and caught by a cop.

I don't know what you don't understand about the fact that you don't have a right to hold people at gun point for the police because you suspect them of something. That's not a right that you have. Guns are legal only for self defense not for cosplaying law enforcement and questioning suspects. No citizen in that scenario has an obligation to take you at your word or see you as anything other than an armed aggressor. In that scenario everyone else has the right to use force in self defense against you.

They did not take their guns out until they were far away from ahmaud....around a 100 yds away.....they parked their truck and Gregory got on the phone with the police to inform them of what was happening.....he was sill on the phone with the cops when ahmaud ran up and assaulted Travis....trying to steal his weapon....didnot work out too well for the mental case.

And prison isn't going to work out for those three vending machines for sex. Some brother is going to be renting their asses out to the entirety of cell block D.

 

[Persuader]

I don't know what you don't understand about the fact that you don't have a right to hold people at gun point for the police because you suspect them of something. That's not a right that you have. Guns are legal only for self defense not for cosplaying law enforcement and questioning suspects. No citizen in that scenario has an obligation to take you at your word or see you as anything other than an armed aggressor. In that scenario everyone else has the right to use force in self defense against you.

And prison isn't going to work out for those three vending machines for sex. Some brother is going to be renting their asses out to the entirety of cell block D.

Ahmaud was never held at gunpoint...you simply demonstrate over and over you cannot understand the facts of the case.

Hopefully the jurors are much smarter than you....which depends mainly on how many blacks are on the jury.

McMichaels’ Attorneys: Public Has Rushed To Judgment​

(CNN) — Lawyers for two men charged with killing Ahmaud Arbery in Brunswick asserted Thursday that the public has rushed to judgment, and that the full story has yet to be revealed.
Travis McMichael, 34, and his father, Gregory McMichael, 64, are charged with felony murder and aggravated assault in the February 23 death of Arbery, a black man who was shot dead while jogging just outside Brunswick.
But Robert Rubin and Jason Sheffield, attorneys for the younger McMichael, “conducted an extensive initial investigation and believe there is compelling evidence that Mr. McMichael is not guilty of the charges against him,” a statement from their law firm reads.
“Travis has been vilified before his voice could even be heard. … The truth in this case will exonerate Travis,” the statement reads.
At a news conference at the firm’s office in Decatur, Rubin said Arbery’s death was a tragedy, though that doesn’t mean that a crime was committed.
“Our hearts go out to the Arbery family, because, although, we don’t stand in their shoes, we understand their pain,” he said.
Gregory McMichael’s attorneys said the public has not heard the whole story, and “more of the truth will come out.”
“So often the public accepts a narrative driven by an incomplete set of facts, one that vilifies a good person, based on a rush to judgement, which has happened in this case,” Laura Hogue, one of the attorneys for the elder McMichael, said in her law firm’s statement.
“While the death of Ahmaud Arbery is a tragedy, causing deep grief to his family — a tragedy that at first appears to many to fit into a terrible pattern in American life — this case does not fit that pattern,” attorney Frank Hogue said. “The full story, to be revealed in in time, will tell the truth about this case.”

 

[Curried Goats]

Ahmaud was never held at gunpoint...you simply demonstrate over and over you cannot understand the facts of the case.

If they didn't have guns out Arbery couldn't have been shot. You're avoiding facts because they don't fit your narrative that this wasn't an armed assault.

 

[Persuader]

If they didn't have guns out Arbery couldn't have been shot. You're avoiding facts because they don't fit your narrative that this wasn't an armed assault.

Gun ownership is still legal in Georgia where as in most places they are purchased for self defense and hunting.

Here is your boy....demonstrating his aggressiveness towards the police and came close to getting tasered.

It appears ahmaud was always in some kind of trouble....probably aggravated by his mental problems.

Exclusive: Police tried to tase Ahmaud Arbery in 2017 incident, video shows

Officers questioned why Arbery was sitting alone in his car in a park one morning in November 2017

www.theguardian.com

 

[Curried Goats]

Gun ownership is still legal in Georgia where as in most places they are purchased for self defense and hunting.

Gun ownership is legal, assaulting someone with a gun when your life isn't in danger is.

Here is your boy....demonstrating his aggressiveness towards the police and came close to getting tasered.

It appears ahmaud was always in some kind of trouble....probably aggravated by his mental problems.

Exclusive: Police tried to tase Ahmaud Arbery in 2017 incident, video shows

Officers questioned why Arbery was sitting alone in his car in a park one morning in November 2017

www.theguardian.com

Maybe your mental deficiency is why you don't seem to understand previous run ins with the law have no legal bearing on this situation and the McMichaels weren't the law. In fact if criminal charges is the logic you're using to call Arbery deranged then that would go for the McMichaels too.

 

[Persuader]

Gun ownership is legal, assaulting someone with a gun when your life isn't in danger is.

Maybe your mental deficiency is why you don't seem to understand previous run ins with the law have no legal bearing on this situation and the McMichaels weren't the law. In fact if criminal charges is the logic you're using to call Arbery deranged then that would go for the McMichaels too.

You seem not to understand what assault is.

Look up the Georgia law on assault and get back with us boyo.

The only person Assaulted that day was Travis.

Picture of Travis in his Coast Guard Uniform with his proud father.

 

[Curried Goats]

You seem not to understand what assault is.

Look up the Georgia law on assault and get back with us boyo.

The only person Assaulted that day was Travis.

Try to detain someone or hold them for the police while you are armed simply because you suspect them of a crime is assault you moron. You don't have a right to detain or to hold anyone with your firearm. You have a right to use your firearm in self defense. The fact that they chased Arbery, cornered Arbery and hopped out their vehicle to hold Arbery, while armed, is assault with a deadly weapon. Them boys is fucked. Figuratively and literally.

 

[Persuader]

Try to detain someone or hold them for the police while you are armed simply because you suspect them of a crime is assault you moron. You don't have a right to detain or to hold anyone with your firearm. You have a right to use your firearm in self defense. The fact that they chased Arbery, cornered Arbery and hopped out their vehicle to hold Arbery, while armed, is assault with a deadly weapon. Them boys is fucked. Figuratively and literally.

All you do is to keep demonstrating you do not know the facts of the case.

Ahmaud was never detained. No attempt was made to detain him.

No one held Ahmaud at gunpoint or by any other method...he had freedom of movement at all times.

Ahmaud was never cornered.

When the McMichaels parked their Truck and got out; ahmaud was at least a hundred yards away.

The Georgia Code defines assault in Georgia as: A person commits the offense of simple assault when he or she either (1) attempts to commit a violent injury to the person of another; or (2) commits an act which places another in reasonable apprehension of immediately receiving a violent injury.

 

[Curried Goats]

All you do is to keep demonstrating you do not know the facts of the case.

Ahmaud was never detained. No attempt was made to detain him.

No one held Ahmaud at gunpoint or by any other method...he had freedom of movement at all times.

Ahmaud was never cornered.

When the McMichaels parked their Truck and got out; ahmaud was at least a hundred yards away.

The Georgia Code defines assault in Georgia as: A person commits the offense of simple assault when he or she either (1) attempts to commit a violent injury to the person of another; or (2) commits an act which places another in reasonable apprehension of immediately receiving a violent injury.

You should re-read number (2) you incredible dipshit.

 

[Persuader]

You should re-read number (2) you incredible dipshit.

Ahmaud should of had no reasonable apprehension of injury until he decided to attack Travis....and due to his history of having hallucinations he may not have even then....who knows what mental state he was in?

No one

All that can be said really is that no reasonable person will run up and attack someone holding a shot-gun.

 

[Curried Goats]

Ahmaud should of had no reasonable apprehension of injury until he decided to attack Travis....and due to his history of having hallucinations he may not have even then....who knows what mental state he was in?

No one

All that can be said really is that no reasonable person will run up and attack someone holding a shot-gun.

Every reasonable person would be apprehensive when armed men chase you down, get ahead of you and behind you and then start approaching you with guns. It's hard to find a scenario that fits (2)'s description better than this one.

 

[Persuader]

Every reasonable person would be apprehensive when armed men chase you down, get ahead of you and behind you and then start approaching you with guns. It's hard to find a scenario that fits (2)'s description better than this one.

Ahmaud did not see any guns until he started running towards the truck about 100 yards ahead of him.....at which time he continued to run towards the McMichaels obviously having no fear of the weapons....if he had some apprehension for his safety he would not have continued running towards the McMichaels.

We saw how aggressive ahmaud was when confronted by 2 cops and how one attempted to taser him because of his eratic behavior which seemed threatening.

The McMichaels were parked and Gregory McMichaels had gotten into the bed of the pickup to call the police and inform them of the situation as they were on their way to that location.

All of this has been gone over ad nauseum and you still seem to have trouble getting your ahead around it.....its not rocket science boyo....what is your problem?

 

[Curried Goats]

Ahmaud did not see any guns until he started running towards the truck about 100 yards ahead of him.....at which time he continued to run towards the McMichaels obviously having no fear of the weapons....if he had some apprehension for his safety he would not have continued running towards the McMichaels.

We saw how aggressive ahmaud was when confronted by 2 cops and how one attempted to taser him because of his eratic behavior which seemed threatening.

The McMichaels were parked and Gregory McMichaels had gotten into the bed of the pickup to call the police and inform them of the situation as they were on their way to that location.

All of this has been gone over ad nauseum and you still seem to have trouble getting your ahead around it.....its not rocket science boyo....what is your problem?

You really are only expressing hearsay on behalf of Arbery's state of mind. What we know as that they chased him throughout the neighborhood, blocked him both front and back and got out the truck armed to confront him. That meets criteria (2).

 

[Persuader]

You really are only expressing hearsay on behalf of Arbery's state of mind. What we know as that they chased him throughout the neighborhood, blocked him both front and back and got out the truck armed to confront him. That meets criteria (2).

He was never blocked ....he had no trouble running around the vehicles.....and they did not get out of the vehicle to confront him.....they parked the truck whilst Gregory called the police to appraise them of the situation.

They knew the police were very close thus no motivation to do anything except keep ahmaud in sight and let the police know where he was.

I do not think he was ever in fear of his life.

There is no evidence for that whatsoever.

 

[Curried Goats]

He was never blocked ....he had no trouble running around the vehicles.....and they did not get out of the vehicle to confront him.....they parked the truck whilst Gregory called the police to appraise them of the situation.

They knew the police were very close thus no motivation to do anything except keep ahmaud in sight and let the police know where he was.

I do not think he was ever in fear of his life.

There is no evidence for that whatsoever.

You want to ignore all yhe things that transpired directly before the shooting but the morons reordered the evidence that's going to convict them. Again these are the facts. They chased Arbery through the neighborhood. Repeatedly obstructed his path and got out of their vehicle to confront him all while armed. Those morons are going to prison for a long long time.

 

[Faun]

Nonsense....no attempt to detain him was made....

^^^ utter bullshit.

Blocking both lanes of a two lane road was an attempt to stop him.

 

[Turtlesoup]

My question. Is this and perhaps it’s the crux of the whole thing?
Why were several white guys following him around and inquiring as to what he was doing walking down the street?

He was snagged trespassing on a new house build that had been robbed before----he fit the description of the thief. He was a convicted criminal with no J O B but able to afford to have his nails done and out "jogging" in a neighborhood that wasn't his at all...It's obvious that he was the thief and was casing the new build to see if there was anything worth stealing later on. When they tried to stop him he tried to get away and when he knew he couldn't be away he ran toward them knowing that they wouldn't shoot, but then tried to steal their gun. This isn't never never land--why pretend that he was an innocent when we all know that he wasn't.

 

[Turtlesoup]

Arming yourself to detain someone is legally known as kidnapping or false imprisonment. Sorry racists, you don't have the legal authority to chase black men down the street with your guns and detain him because you think he's a criminal.

He was a criminal idiot---convicted and had just been snagged trespassing (casing) a new build.